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Spruill7716 wrote:MCI,CHM,JAX-LGW. The top three unserved markets in the US for transatlantic flights. I think that the ultra low cost option will the first to enter the transatlantic market in JAX.
Cunard wrote:I've always been rather surprised that Norwegian have never started LGW to BWI as I always imagined that this route would have been announced long before the likes of Austin and Tampa.
uconn99 wrote:Spruill7716 wrote:MCI,CHM,JAX-LGW. The top three unserved markets in the US for transatlantic flights. I think that the ultra low cost option will the first to enter the transatlantic market in JAX.
Does anyone have information on how many people travel from JAX to Europe daily? I would be surprised if JAX received a transatlantic flight anytime soon, is there enough biz travel and wealthy households in the JAX metro to support such a flight?
I would think with the amount of flights on the short hop JAX-ATL alone would be convenient enough. Its not like 400 people are flying JAX-LON to justify such a flight, most will have to connect state side or in London/Dublin anyway to get to their destination. Plus MCO is about a 2-2.5 hour drive anyway correct?
Cunard wrote:LGW to BWI as I always imagined that this route would have been announced long before the likes of Austin and Tampa.
PatrickZ80 wrote:Cunard wrote:I've always been rather surprised that Norwegian have never started LGW to BWI as I always imagined that this route would have been announced long before the likes of Austin and Tampa.
I believe they flew that route in the past, but it didn't live up to their expectations. They might start it again in the future with the A321LR, but the 787 was too much for it.
In general, I can see them adding more routes from their existing destinations. For example Seattle is currently only flown from Gatwick, but they just might add Copenhagen - Seattle or Barcelona - Seattle.
tcaeyx wrote:LAX-MXP was announced a couple months back, but they've since retracted these plans. I'd imagine it is still in the cards.
TC957 wrote:The Norwegian situation with Siberian overfly rights is one to watch. If they get the permission, I'd expect LGW - NRT to be followed pretty soon followed by other Scandinavian points to NRT also.
a350lover wrote:Certainly LGW-South Africa (CPT was mentioned) is a route with potential. Maybe Durban or Johannesburg if they want to play a role in business.
Spruill7716 wrote:uconn99 wrote:Spruill7716 wrote:MCI,CHM,JAX-LGW. The top three unserved markets in the US for transatlantic flights. I think that the ultra low cost option will the first to enter the transatlantic market in JAX.
Does anyone have information on how many people travel from JAX to Europe daily? I would be surprised if JAX received a transatlantic flight anytime soon, is there enough biz travel and wealthy households in the JAX metro to support such a flight?
I would think with the amount of flights on the short hop JAX-ATL alone would be convenient enough. Its not like 400 people are flying JAX-LON to justify such a flight, most will have to connect state side or in London/Dublin anyway to get to their destination. Plus MCO is about a 2-2.5 hour drive anyway correct?
Travel Weekly reports that JAX-Europe yielded 93,311 between Sept. 2016-Aug.2017. which averages to 262 per day. With the right marketing, and tourism from both sides of the route, I think the flight could easily reach 400 per day. Jacksonville is also a fairly large business center. The Financial Times recognized JAX as one of the world's two emerging global banking and finance powerhouses. It's home to one of the three Mayo Clinics in the world and one of six MD Anderson partnerships in the U.S. JAX also has one of the biggest logistics, IT, manufacturing, and aerospace industries in the country, along with an extremely heavy military presence. One of the largest US Naval Bases in the world is in Mayport. Jacksonville has fairly large European population, especially Bosnians. Here's an article about it: https://www.jacksonville.com/article/20110423/NEWS/801252960. Then of course you have your typical tourist attractions, like the beach, St.Augustine (the oldest continuously inhabited European-established settlement within the borders of the continental United States.) , the Jacksonville Jaguars (who play an annual game in London, and have a surprisingly large fan base there), and so on. I really do believe that a seasonal long haul flight like Condor's FRA-MSY or Norwegian's MCO-LGW would be viable in JAX.
QuawerAir wrote:On lentoposti.fi (in Finnish), there is a picture of the CEO Bjørn Kjos introducing possible future long-haul network to be operated with Boeing 737 MAX 8. The map shows that Norwegian plans to launch flights to destinations such as Fortaleza, Natal, Recife, Salvador, Accra, Lagos, Muscat, Karachi, Lahore, Delhi, Almaty, Ürumqi and Ulaanbaatar. According to talouselämä.fi, Norwegian plans to launch long-haul flights from HEL within next two years. So, future long-haul flights might be to/from these destinations.
by738 wrote:Could EDI - Florida on 787 work or EDI- YHM Toronto summer only?
nascar1 wrote:Next step for Norwegian should be launch routes from EZE such as BCN or MAD.
LetsGoOutside wrote:What will happen to Norwegian's Gatwick flights after Brexit? I understand the flights are operated by Norwegian UK but isn't it a subsidiary of a non-UK entity? If so, before open sky agreements, the US always looked at the ultimate owner to determine an airline's nationality (for instance, before the transatlantic open sky agreement, LH could not have flown LHR-JFK even if they set up a UK-certificated subsidiary for this purpose: the US would have deemed the sub a German airline). I think I read somewhere the UK will need to secure a new air traffic agreement from the US after Brexit since current flights are under the umbrella of the EU-US open-sky. Is it clear that non-UK airline (e.g. Norwegian) would be able to fly UK-US under this new authority?