PatrickZ80 wrote:For Ryanair this must be Dublin - London Stansted. Their two largest hubs, flown 5x daily or something like that.
For KLM it's Amsterdam - London Heathrow, this even beats Amsterdam - Paris Charles de Gaulle which is their partner hub.
caliboy93 wrote:What about Southwest? Maybe LAS-LAX, or SFO-LAX, or MDW-HOU
bfitzflyer wrote:Interesting trying to think of what this would be for DL and unlike many others, struggling a bit, maybe ATL-LGA??
compensateme wrote:AA: LAX-JFK and LAX-MIA
DL: ATL-MCO
UA: IAH-FRA, as previously mentioned
WN: LAX-OAK and LAX-LAS
AS: SEA-LAX and SEA-MIA
HA: HNL-OGG
B6: LAX-JFK and LAX-BOS
SY: MSP-LAX
NK: FLL-LGA
F9: DEN-LAX
G6: LAS-OAK
MIflyer12 wrote:You're citing revenue figures, not profit.
MIflyer12 wrote:You're citing revenue figures, not profit.
Obzerva wrote:Or perhaps HKG-MNL for CX and PR?
Obzerva wrote:Similar in Korea, I’d imagine both KE and OZ would have SEL-CJU.
Obzerva wrote:Or perhaps HKG-MNL for CX and PR?
Thibault973 wrote:I wouldn't call it "their most important route" but ORY-TLS is AF's busiest route with up to 25 daily frequencies. CDG-GVA is their international route that sees the most frequencies with 9 daily fligths (recently down from 10), CDG-JFK is the transatlantic route they fly the most frequently (4 dailies including 2 A380. 5 if you include the daily DL - soon to be 2 flight - This route used see 8 dailies AF's flights in its heyday). LYS-NTE and LYS-BOD are, with 6 daily flights each, their busiest routes that do not touch Paris.
Rios221 wrote:I think the question is "which route, if it didn't exist, would cause the airline the most trouble?" That's a little different from "what route is most unique to the airline?"
In my mind, that means that DL's 'most important' route shouldn't necessarily be MCO-ATL. While it is obviously an incredible part of the ATL fortress, it doesn't necessarily command great yields off of Disneyland tickets. I'd instead suggest three other routes: ATL-LGA, as suggested above; ATL-DCA, as it is the route the US government buys the most and Delta's ability to hold both the US gvt contract and the route's profitability is a testament to the success of the upguaging strategy; and DTW-AMS because six-a-day A330s and A350s is really something.
Blerg wrote:What about Chinese carriers?
BestWestern wrote:With Cathay HKG SIN is right up there, alongside HKG PEK.
cofannyc wrote:There's a big difference between busiest, highest revenue, most profitable, and "most important".
No airline I've ever worked at had a "most important" route. Sure, some routes got more protected than others in irregular operations, got newer and better equipment, or were more integral to the network, but no one classified things by such a subjective measure.
zakuivcustom wrote:Except there are routes that airlines definitely treat differently compare to others, and consider “more important”.
Take JL for example. On their domestic flights, HND-ITM is the only route which they operate domestic First Class on all their flights. HND-CTS and HND-FUK also has large majority (with 1 or 2 flights out of 15+ daily being exceptions) of their flight operated with planes with domestic First Class. That’s almost having a dedicated fleet for the route.
Closwr to home, AA operates their A321T on JFK-LAX/SFO, no exception. That’s definitely different from the 1000+ other domestic flights that AA operates everyday.
Alternatively, even long-haul international flights have differentiation. NH, for example, operates their lowest density 77W only on HND-JFK/FRA/LHR, along with NRT-JFK (and well, a single rotation on HND-PEK). Alternatively, once they get the A380, in it goes to NRT-HNL. Those are examples of flight that can be argue as “important” for an airline.
Lastly, well, you know a route is important if an airline put a brand new type on that route, short or long term. CX does this, for example, with their A350-1000s (flying HKG-SIN initially IIRC).
cofannyc wrote:zakuivcustom wrote:Except there are routes that airlines definitely treat differently compare to others, and consider “more important”.
Take JL for example. On their domestic flights, HND-ITM is the only route which they operate domestic First Class on all their flights. HND-CTS and HND-FUK also has large majority (with 1 or 2 flights out of 15+ daily being exceptions) of their flight operated with planes with domestic First Class. That’s almost having a dedicated fleet for the route.
Closwr to home, AA operates their A321T on JFK-LAX/SFO, no exception. That’s definitely different from the 1000+ other domestic flights that AA operates everyday.
Alternatively, even long-haul international flights have differentiation. NH, for example, operates their lowest density 77W only on HND-JFK/FRA/LHR, along with NRT-JFK (and well, a single rotation on HND-PEK). Alternatively, once they get the A380, in it goes to NRT-HNL. Those are examples of flight that can be argue as “important” for an airline.
Lastly, well, you know a route is important if an airline put a brand new type on that route, short or long term. CX does this, for example, with their A350-1000s (flying HKG-SIN initially IIRC).
Sure, like I said, there are routes that get better treatment and make more of an impact. But the title says most important, which implies selecting one out of many and I just don't think it's so simple...as the disagreement through the thread seems to back up.