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Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:26 pm

In North America and Europe, most of our commercial airports shut down overnight (or there are very few flights coming and going off hours, e.g. LAX/JFK).

I've been to two airports in recent memory that have 24 hour ops, even though they are objectively small airports. Some of these are because of their proximity to hubs (to time for arrivals/departures) - and sometimes for no discernible reason.

Curious to know if any of you have flown in/out of similar airports.

My two:

KGL - Kigali, Rwanda. TK 606 arrives at 0100 and leaves at 0200 for the round trip to IST via EBB. When I flew it, it was the reverse order (IST-EBB-KGL) so we arrived around 0230.

SKP - Skopje, Macedonia - OS's first flight to VIE is at 0420 (!!) to meet the hub for connex to Europe & NAm. This was an especially rough departure for me.

Curious to hear of any other cool ones you've visited.

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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:53 pm

In the States, last arrivals around midnight and first departures around 0530 with FX and 5X operations in between are quite common. Not quite 24 hours but really not far off, and this is even true at airports with only 30 or 40 air carrier operations per day. For instance, CHA’s last arrival is at 0020 and its first departure is 0555 with cargo in between.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:59 pm

Apologies for the multiple posts . . . There are a ton of airports in South America with CM departures in the middle of the night. COR may be the smallest.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:01 pm

Las Vegas is probably pretty close to a 24hr operation. lots of ULCC flights after 1am and bunches of early am flights
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:01 pm

Recently I experienced TBS Tblisi Georgia/Gruzia: quite a number of operations between 2400 and 0600.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:05 pm

MCO, FLL, MEM, SDF to name a few, not per say "small" but no JFK or LAX
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:13 pm

I honestly don't think the airports "shut down", they may not have flights, but not like doors close and you can't get in like in many small places...

As others mentioned, Vegas would probably be the closest? There are departures as late is 1:45 AM or so (or as early as if you want to get technical), and then the banks around 5 or 6 am.

Then again, EWR you have hte same with some Asian flights past midnight, and then the very early morning business commuter flights around 5 AM. But the airport is technically open.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:19 pm

So interesting... just looking at JFK departures for later tonight, you have flights even around 4AM.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:23 pm

Cologne and Leipzig come to my mind. They are open mainly for express cargo banks at night (being european UPS and DHL hubs).
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:25 pm

MaksFly wrote:
I honestly don't think the airports "shut down", they may not have flights, but not like doors close and you can't get in like in many small places...

As others mentioned, Vegas would probably be the closest? There are departures as late is 1:45 AM or so (or as early as if you want to get technical), and then the banks around 5 or 6 am.

Then again, EWR you have hte same with some Asian flights past midnight, and then the very early morning business commuter flights around 5 AM. But the airport is technically open.


Regarding your first comment I beg to differ as many airports throughout the world actually do close down completely including their front doors especially smaller regional airports.

Here in the United Kingdom for example Southend Airport had a lot of coverage in the national and local media last year when passengers who were arriving early for the 06.00 morning flights they could not actually enter the airports terminal due to the fact that it did not open it's doors until 5 am, those passengers that had wanted to bed it down in the terminal overnight were kicked out of the terminal as it closed at midnight so there is one example and I'm sure there are many more including my local airport of Southampton where the Terminal closes overnight and the runway and apron lights are turned off every night after the last arrival at 23.00.

It's usually the case that if an airport doesn't have 24/7 fire coverage available then it's not actually open 24/7.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:44 pm

Lublin (LUZ/EPLB) doesn't have a curfew and I believe the tower is always manned. It's also tiny with 2 ground level gates and 3-5 flights a day on average.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:50 pm

MEM has to be up there. FedEx goes to work overnight. The same could be said with IND, CVG, and SDF.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:12 am

Most airports in the Middle East that have flights to Europe will have at least one middle of the night flight. BEY, for example, departures at 12:30 AM, 12:45 AM, 2:07 AM, 3:30 AM, 3:45 AM, 4:15 AM, 4:45 AM, 5:00 PM, 5:10 PM, and 5:50 PM. And DXB is as alive at 0300 AM as the Las Vegas strip!
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:05 am

ANC has 24 hours ops with pax departures till 0300. Freight 24/7 and some pax arrivals in the 0400 hours
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:09 am

F9 is trying “red eyes” from a few airports out west to DEN next summer, arriving around 4:00AM.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:44 am

LCA, BEY, EVN, TBS
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:33 am

PBG only has a few flights a day but they are spread out around the clock, including an NK departure scheduled at around 3am.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:24 am

All major Indian airports are virtually 24 hour operations, with domestic flights operating regularly from 5AM to 11PM (and with AI's new redeye program, 24 hours) and two international banks - a smaller one around midday and the primary one from 11PM to 5AM.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:25 am

BTV for your smallest is probably a good runner up. It's a 24 hour building ie they will not kick you out and Greyhound has/had some pretty late operations. I have often seen people sleeping by baggage claim at 2-3am waiting for buses etc. The airport is open 24 hours but you get fined if you land after I think it's 1am but airlines will pay it, B6 I feel like regularly does.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:02 am

SJU surprisingly has operations all day/night. Tonight theres arrivals from midnight, all the way up until the morning banks at 5/6am, including a 2:30am flight from FLL, 3:15am flight from MCO and a 4:45am flight from JFK. The only time departures seem to stop is midnight to 2am before a United flight to EWR takes off and a Frontier flight to Philly takes off at 3:12am. San Juan is even smaller than LAS and therefore, I feel better fits your description.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:11 am

CLT - you would think open 24 but that shuts down. There may be a landing or two but a total ghost town. Got stuck there over night a year ago and could not believe everything was closed.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:21 am

I see a lot of people mentioning cargo but I am pretty sure the poster meant passenger flights, but they can correct me if I am wrong. I would be interested in answers, not counting cargo.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:23 am

flyfresno wrote:
F9 is trying “red eyes” from a few airports out west to DEN next summer, arriving around 4:00AM.


These have been around for awhile. LAS, LAX, and SFO started during the fall of 2017, SEA and PDX were added this past summer, and SMF joining those 5 next summer. This winter, SEA and PDX are running on this schedule 4x weekly and 3x weekly, respectively, after being daily on this schedule this past summer and before going back to daily on this schedule next summer, while LAS, LAX, and SFO have been daily on this schedule since they started last fall, and will be daily on this schedule through the winter and into next summer.

Without having any numbers or hard evidence of strong performance, I’d assume that these flights do well for F9 given they’ve doubled the number of cities that they run on this schedule since they first started doing it.

There are also some non-DEN routes that see similar schedules to this as well. Their summer seasonal IAH/DFW-PHL and ELP-ORD are three others I know of.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:04 am

Jshank83 wrote:
I see a lot of people mentioning cargo but I am pretty sure the poster meant passenger flights, but they can correct me if I am wrong. I would be interested in answers, not counting cargo.


Actually in the title of the thread the OP says Commercial flights so I guess that does include Cargo flights although it would be a better option to concentrate purely on Passenger flights as it's rather obvious that a large amount of cargo flights are dealt with during the early hours so they should really be discounted in this discussion.

Now I hope that the OP is making a note of all these airports mentioned by all the posters taking part in this discussion because as usual we're just getting snippets of information and to be totally no one can really list every airport that's open 24/7 considering the thousands of airports worldwide.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:16 am

YHZ is a good example. Depending on time of year AC626 arrives from YYZ around 2am and then re departs at 5am. Passengers showing up as early as 3. Also with some cargo in between. FedEx and Cargojet.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:48 am

BQN Aguidilla and PSE Ponce in Puerto Rico both have flights coming and going at all hours of the morning. Both tiny.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:15 am

Back in the early 2000s, SEA was more or less 24 hours. HP had a 0240 arrival from LAS which turned for PHX at 0450. Some international departures between 0130 and 0300.

From LAS, we had a bunch of departures from 2240 to 0150 that arrived between 0430-0600 in the east and 0200-0330 in the west. HP definitely had high utilization way back when. I miss the LAS hub, it was really a non-revers dream to move around the HP system
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:20 am

Nuremberg NUE has 24h operation. During winter season there are only very few landings and sometimes no departures between 0000 and 0600, but in summer time there can be quite a few night time take offs and landings. Also some cargo aircraft do operate at that time quite regularly.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:23 am

What about ibiza, they seem to have lots of departures to the uk between 0000 and 0400
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:35 am

I wouldn’t say that LAX has only a few movements in the “off hours”. I would count it as a 24 hour airport as you have the late night domestic red eyes to the East Coast and Asian departures between 11pm-2am and then the arrivals from Hawaii start dropping in from 4am and onwards.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:09 am

B747forever wrote:
I wouldn’t say that LAX has only a few movements in the “off hours”. I would count it as a 24 hour airport as you have the late night domestic red eyes to the East Coast and Asian departures between 11pm-2am and then the arrivals from Hawaii start dropping in from 4am and onwards.

I’m sure LAX get cargo and private jet ops during that window too
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:10 am

ARN (Stockholm) and CPH (Copenhagen) both have scheduled pax flight all night, albeit with lower frequency. CPH has flights at 00:50, 3:05, 3:35, 5:05, 5:50 and then the morning rush starts. ARN is similar some nights. Those are main national hubs of course but compared to JFK they both have much lower pax numbers. HEL (Helsinki) is probably as busy. No other airports in those countries have scheduled pax service at night, though.

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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:16 am

HKT and UTP in Thailand: Tons of regional redeyes to China/Hong Kong/S.Korea
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:52 am

SCQ is 24h but is not commonly used for commercial operations (other than frequent diversions because of its geography). But in summer there might be some flights arriving after midnight.

Noshow wrote:
Cologne and Leipzig come to my mind. They are open mainly for express cargo banks at night (being european UPS and DHL hubs).


And CGN definitely have quite a few commercial operations during the night, at least in summer for the typical PMI or AYT. I flew this summer on a 6-ish flight from CGN and by the time I was at the airport (let's say around 5 AM) there were quite a few flights boarding, departing or already departed.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:05 am

If you mean small airports in terms of pax numbers, pretty much every single African airport in Africa (NIM, OUA, BKO to name a few) are open at night to cater for flights mainly operated by RAM and TK!
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:44 am

Keflavík Airport, KEF operates 24 hours. Question is, what does the Topic Author call small?
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:31 am

BQN (Aguadilla) is a small operation but they have flights to the mainland between 1200 am and 0500 am. PSE (Ponce) all B6 flights to the mainland are in the middle of the night.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:37 am

Here in Fairbanks (FAI), the last arrival of the night is usually AS from SEA around 2:30am, and first departure of the morning at 5:30am, AS to ANC, with plenty of flights in between.

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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:09 pm

YYT is a small airport with 24hr operations. AC has multiple flights that arrive after midnight including flights from YYZ that up until this winter schedule arrived at 0200 and 0330 respectively. WS also has a couple of flights that arrive around or just after midnight. The first departure is an AC flight to YYZ at 0500.
Also to mention, since YYT is the most easterly airport in North America, we see a fair share of diversions from airlines on TATL flights and since AC has ground staff at the airport 24hrs, with equipment to work almost every a/c type, YYT is a viable solution for airlines that need to divert either due to an emergency or other issues while crossing the North Atlantic.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:27 pm

Most of the airports listed above are all H24. Just because there's no scheduled pax flight doesn't mean it's not open for business.
 
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Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:51 pm

I would say this would be true of a lot of Middle Eastern airports where it is extremely hot during the day and night time departures are more convenient.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:10 pm

klm617 wrote:
I would say this would be true of a lot of Middle Eastern airports where it is extremely hot during the day and night time departures are more convenient.


The fact that a lot of Middle Eastern airports have many night time departures is more down to their location and time zones rather than being convenient due to it being extremely hot during the day!

For example have you seen how many daily departures there are during the day at Dubai.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:04 am

Cunard wrote:
MaksFly wrote:
I honestly don't think the airports "shut down", they may not have flights, but not like doors close and you can't get in like in many small places...

As others mentioned, Vegas would probably be the closest? There are departures as late is 1:45 AM or so (or as early as if you want to get technical), and then the banks around 5 or 6 am.

Then again, EWR you have hte same with some Asian flights past midnight, and then the very early morning business commuter flights around 5 AM. But the airport is technically open.


Regarding your first comment I beg to differ as many airports throughout the world actually do close down completely including their front doors especially smaller regional airports.

Here in the United Kingdom for example Southend Airport had a lot of coverage in the national and local media last year when passengers who were arriving early for the 06.00 morning flights they could not actually enter the airports terminal due to the fact that it did not open it's doors until 5 am, those passengers that had wanted to bed it down in the terminal overnight were kicked out of the terminal as it closed at midnight so there is one example and I'm sure there are many more including my local airport of Southampton where the Terminal closes overnight and the runway and apron lights are turned off every night after the last arrival at 23.00.

It's usually the case that if an airport doesn't have 24/7 fire coverage available then it's not actually open 24/7.


I meant in the United States. Yes, internationally they absolutely close.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:49 am

MaksFly wrote:
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As others mentioned, Vegas would probably be the closest? There are departures as late is 1:45 AM or so (or as early as if you want to get technical), and then the banks around 5 or 6 am.

Then again, EWR you have hte same with some Asian flights past midnight, and then the very early morning business commuter flights around 5 AM. But the airport is technically open.


I wouldn't call LAS, EWR or a few others mentioned "small" as per the question by the OP.

Surprisingly (for me) my home airport FMO (Münster-Osnabrück) has a few flights during the night hours. As it barely scratches the 1 Mio pax / year mark I still put it in the "small" category.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:14 am

willenglish wrote:
YHZ is a good example. Depending on time of year AC626 arrives from YYZ around 2am and then re departs at 5am. Passengers showing up as early as 3. Also with some cargo in between. FedEx and Cargojet.


US Customs (CBP) opens in Halifax around 4:30am for the United flight to EWR at 6am.

And during the winter months…..a lot of the flights from Sun destination will arrive back in YHZ in the wee hours of the morning….2, 3, 4…..reboard then and head back to Cuba, Cancun or the DR to have you on the beach by 10 or 11am.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:24 am

AC_B777 wrote:
YYT is a small airport with 24hr operations. AC has multiple flights that arrive after midnight including flights from YYZ that up until this winter schedule arrived at 0200 and 0330 respectively. WS also has a couple of flights that arrive around or just after midnight. The first departure is an AC flight to YYZ at 0500.


I’ve been on that first flight of the day out of St. John’s and with a quick connection in YYZ……I can be clear across the continent and in Vancouver before 10am PT.

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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:22 pm

TLV runs pretty much 24/7 save Yom Kippur. Banks of flights to the US and far east leave as late as 0130. There are arrivals from late evening flights from Europe between 0200 and 0500. The first Bank of Europe flights starts as early as 0430 and those folks need to clear security starting at 0130. So the pp lace really never sleeps.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:44 pm

entdoc wrote:
TLV runs pretty much 24/7 save Yom Kippur. Banks of flights to the US and far east leave as late as 0130. There are arrivals from late evening flights from Europe between 0200 and 0500. The first Bank of Europe flights starts as early as 0430 and those folks need to clear security starting at 0130. So the pp lace really never sleeps.


Ah yes, reminds me of my trip there, spent the night at the airport with my Israeli enfatuation.
 
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:28 pm

B747forever wrote:
I wouldn’t say that LAX has only a few movements in the “off hours”. I would count it as a 24 hour airport as you have the late night domestic red eyes to the East Coast and Asian departures between 11pm-2am and then the arrivals from Hawaii start dropping in from 4am and onwards.


MIA is pretty similar with PAX operations. Flights up to around 2am to South America and then arrivals come in from South America around 4:30am. Very little time when CBP is not processing passengers.

Once you add in cargo ops plenty of U.S. airports are 24/7 with a tower staffed 24-hours a day. Almost all major cities will have passenger flights ending around 12am and starting up again around 5am. With most airports, other than ones like LGA or DCA have some cargo ops. Whether it is larger ops like Atlas Air or just 2 or 3 Fed Ex and UPS flights. They are often in the middle of the night.
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Re: Small airports with 24 hour commercial ops

Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:15 am

I guess there are two factors that affect overnight operations. Passenger willingness and whiny neighbours. Some airports have reduced nights ops or complete curfews so that the neighbours can sleep more soundly. YHZ has been mentioned a couple of times in this thread. It was built way out in the middle of nowhere, so there aren't very many neighbours to complain. (AFAIK the rabbits at Dollar Lake haven't sent any letters yet.) Airports surrounded by suburbs have more complaints, even though the suburbs were often built after the airport.

A lot of overnight traffic is cargo, so that packages can make it out on delivery trucks ASAP. But some passengers are willing to travel on crazy schedules either because of connecting flights or to save some $$$.

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