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US Airports With Ramp Boarding and/or Bus Gates?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:33 am
by DeltaRules
It's still somewhat common in Europe, but are there many airports left in the US which board planes without the use of jetways, even in isolated examples? This can be any combination of walking directly from the terminal outside to the plane or being bussed to remote stands and boarding airstairs/switchback ramps.

I can think of some E gates at CLT, B9A at BOS, and the terminals at PIE and UST being examples of the former, but am struggling to think of examples of remote stands and buses, especially with mainline-sized airplanes. Can anybody else think of more examples of either?

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:41 am
by OneX123
Not mainline fleet but both Denver and Newark board some United EMB145/175s directly from the tarmac

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:43 am
by flyoregon
OneX123 wrote:
Not mainline fleet but both Denver and Newark board some United EMB145/175s directly from the tarmac


Portland, Seattle, Salt Lake City, Boise, Burbank, Long Beach off the top of my head

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:44 am
by Wynnster8
DCA

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:47 am
by Runway28L
Parts of Concourse F at PHL do not have jet bridges. Direct boarding onto the ramp.

Gates 35B-O at DCA require you to be bussed to the aircraft in order to board.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:49 am
by jbpdx
PDX Concourse A has 12 gates, all ramps, for Q400s and E175s, but it will be torn down soon.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:53 am
by VS4ever
BOS has ground boarding from the E gates too for Porter and Silver
Someone noted LGB which has the double ability of not only no jetbridge option, but also rear stair boarding too

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:01 am
by airportugal310
Kona (KOA) does for all ops, and HNL will have some for Southwest as well

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:02 am
by DeltaRules
Runway28L wrote:
Parts of Concourse F at PHL do not have jet bridges. Direct boarding onto the ramp.

Gates 35B-O at DCA require you to be bussed to the aircraft in order to board.
I couldn't remember if F at PHL had ramp boarding or not, as it's been a few years since I've been there, but I now do remember an entire section with Dash 8s last time I was there.

I also blanked on 35X.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:04 am
by BobbyPSP
Palm Springs, PSP, has a fairly new regional terminal with ground boarding

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:04 am
by iamlucky13
flyoregon wrote:
OneX123 wrote:
Not mainline fleet but both Denver and Newark board some United EMB145/175s directly from the tarmac


Portland, Seattle, Salt Lake City, Boise, Burbank, Long Beach off the top of my head


I don't know the details behind the other airports, but SeaTac is particularly noteworthy in this regards because they just opened a new annex to Concourse D specifically ADDING bus gates for boarding at hardstands.

The rapid growth at SeaTac in recent years has meant that, instead of moving away from hardstand operations, they have had to return to hardstand operations being a normal process.

https://www.portseattle.org/projects/concourse-d-annex

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:17 am
by ILS28ORD
MIA boards E175s from the ramp with stairs or a ramp, as well as many of the ski resort airports in Colorado.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:22 am
by william
AUS South terminal.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:28 am
by N292UX
JAC - Jackson Hole

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:28 am
by UltimateDelta
At least when I was there in February, SFO had a few gates (gate 84 for sure, and possibly a couple of others) where the jetway gets you down onto the ramp where you then join the appropriate line for your flight and board from the ramp.

There's also EYW, of course.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:29 am
by steeler83
Runway28L wrote:
Parts of Concourse F at PHL do not have jet bridges. Direct boarding onto the ramp.

Gates 35B-O at DCA require you to be bussed to the aircraft in order to board.

I boarded a DL flight to DTW where we boarded from the tarmac. I got to experience that, and I got to see the tunnel at DTW as we connected to our 738 to Seattle. I guess the considerable downgauge from the A319 to the CRJ wasn't all too bad...

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:30 am
by 452QX
At SEA; Q1-Q16 (C2/C10/C16), N12A/B/C, S1a, with the cargo areas for bus boarding using the D annex + a few other bus boarding gates around A and B

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:45 am
by vatveng
Every time I've connected at LGA the last several years I've had to ride a bus to a remote stand to board a CRJ.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:51 am
by spartanmjf
Not currently in use but the gates at the far end of the D pier at BWI were built for PI Express (then US Express)....

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:58 am
by Web500sjc
vatveng wrote:
Every time I've connected at LGA the last several years I've had to ride a bus to a remote stand to board a CRJ.


LGA gates c12/13/14 are bus gates to the blast fence on the far side of Concourse D. Based of the construction at LGA, those gates have less than 2 years until there is a jet bridge.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:58 am
by mjgbtv
I believe that Allegiant used a ramp when they were at BTV. There is still a ramp (maybe the same one?) sitting around that is branded for United, but I have never seen it in use.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:36 am
by bergenm
All 10 gates at Phoenix Mesa Gateway are hardstands, no jet bridges

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:10 am
by T18
Pretty sure SAF has no jetbridges, same with DIK, ISN and CYS. Sure they are all small.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 am
by Pellegrine
DCA Terminal C Gate 35X! INFAMOUS!

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:53 pm
by DeltaRules
Adding to my own discussion, MCO has gates for Silver. I think they used to use 36 and have since moved to 13.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm
by PSAatSAN4Ever
The "new" terminal at BFL from 2005 (hard to believe now how long that has been around!) has jetbridges as well as one outdoor walk-to-your-EMB-125-to-LAX gate. I don't know if this is still in use anymore, as there are no longer flights to LAX, but the terminal was built to offer this as an option for airlines.

This might be the last all-new airport terminal building built with this concept in mind.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm
by PSAatSAN4Ever
Duplicate - please delete.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:40 pm
by zrs70
Long Beach
Burbank

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:39 pm
by CollegeAviator
Saw this @ FAR: does it count? ;) :duck:
Image

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:52 pm
by N174UA
PSC (Pasco/Kennewick) - 4 ramp boarding gates (AS, UA, Allegiant, and DL). Gate 4 is a jetway to support larger aircraft (E175, 737, A320)

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:05 pm
by ConnectAir
VS4ever wrote:
BOS has ground boarding from the E gates too for Porter and Silver
Someone noted LGB which has the double ability of not only no jetbridge option, but also rear stair boarding too


I flew back in August with Porter from BOS and they normally board using a jetway.

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:08 pm
by zakuivcustom
IAH, Gate A3. I believe usually used by UA's ERJ-145s. There used to be one at Terminal B IIRC when they were doing the reconstruction of the southern section.

BUR and LGB are probably the largest airports in US I can think of without any jetways whatsoever.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:39 pm
by CV990A
Gates A1-A6 at IAD are all ramp boarding gates - used by United Express. And enjoy Gate 35X at DCA while you can - the new replacement concourse is set to open in 2021.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:07 pm
by Tenaja85
BLI and RDM are more examples of small airports that have no jetbridges.

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:28 pm
by PennPal
PGD has no jetways, nor does ERI if I'm not mistaken...

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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:57 pm
by masgniw
At LAX, AA will occasionally park at remote stands, deplane you via stairs, and bus you to the AA terminal. I did this on a domestic 787 from ORD last year.

Also the AA regional terminal is effectively ramp boarding for their E-Jets

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:21 am
by theasianguy
LAX uses remote stands regularly for international widebodies as TBIT doesn't have enough gates, especially during the midnight rush and afternoon arrival bank.

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:49 am
by EChid
I mean, if you want to get technical, the last time I flew out of JFK I had to board an A380 via the tarmac/stairs.

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:02 am
by spacecadet
EChid wrote:
I mean, if you want to get technical, the last time I flew out of JFK I had to board an A380 via the tarmac/stairs.


Surprised it took this long to mention JFK, which definitely has designated remote stands. You can even see some of them in use on Google Maps. For example: https://goo.gl/maps/zPgnbHeU5Qq

They seem to be "overflow" in most or all case, not preferred, but they are used every day by multiple airlines.

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:45 am
by jb1087xna
G4 uses a ramp at XNA, despite there being unoccupied/unbranded gates with bridges readily available. I've heard mixed messages if this is a normal occurrence for G4 though...so I apologize in advance if this their M.O. for their smaller stations.

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:59 am
by KICT
Eagle/Vail, CO is all ramp boarding.



IWA (Phoenix-Mesa) is ramp boarding.


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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:50 am
by LupineChemist
Probably been 15 years since I've flown there, but EGE used to not even have jet bridges.

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:20 pm
by masgniw
theasianguy wrote:
LAX uses remote stands regularly for international widebodies as TBIT doesn't have enough gates, especially during the midnight rush and afternoon arrival bank.


Kinda sorta. Technically you get bussed to these, but there's that little micro terminal they take you to, then you board via jetway. It's a little different from the countless int'l airports where you get bussed directly to the plane and you walk up a stair car from the tarmac.

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:04 am
by CarlosSi
KICT wrote:
Eagle/Vail, CO is all ramp boarding.



IWA (Phoenix-Mesa) is ramp boarding.



I like the all-757 pic. Those were de days. Always get nostalgic seeing 757s at the four Hs; hot, high, Hawaiian, and s(h)ort-runway airports (just made that phrase up), not that I ever really flew such routes on such a plane.

I de-boarded Durango, CO by airstair, no surprise since it's a tiny, seasonal airport.

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:14 am
by KICT
LupineChemist wrote:
Probably been 15 years since I've flown there, but EGE used to not even have jet bridges.

EGE still doesn't.

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:34 am
by KBUF
Gate 24 at BUF (used by DL as an overflow gate for their regional flights) is a ramp boarding/deplaning gate.

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:17 pm
by evank516
HDN is one, and I think ISP has a few ground boarding gates in the old concourse where F9 operates as well.

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:17 am
by cofannyc
HVN is only served by AA (previously on Dash 8s, now on the CR2) and uses the ground boarding gates. There is an upper level jet bridge, which I think was an overly ambitious bit of construction.

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:40 am
by thekorean
Burbank Airport I think.

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:32 am
by Airstud
VS4ever wrote:
BOS has ground boarding from the E gates too for Porter and Silver
Someone noted LGB which has the double ability of not only no jetbridge option, but also rear stair boarding too


Experienced this boarding a United SFO flight at SAN once or twice.