User avatar
A333MSPtoAMS
Topic Author
Posts: 309
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:18 pm

Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:49 pm

I'm going to be returning to Europe this late spring and am looking for some fun, unique Flights that i might take out of any of the London airports or out of AMS.

What I mean by unique include either flights on rare or semi-rare aircraft or by airlines that do not routinely ply those routes (i.e., a few years ago I flew LGW to AMS with Garuda Indonesia's 777-300).

Any thoughts would be great.
As of Dec 2018 I've flown 417,862 miles on 250 flights on 51 airplane types with 55 airlines traveling thru 97 airports in 43 countries. I've visited 59 countries. 2019 is looking like a pretty decent year for me.
http://cronkflies.com
 
User avatar
BWIAirport
Posts: 811
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:29 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:00 pm

LCY-SNN-JFK on BA immediately comes to mind
Next flight: October 17 DL2641 BWI-ATL B739
October 17 DL2607 ATL-TPA B752

SWA, UAL, DAL, AWE, ASA, TRS, DLH, CLH, AFR, BAW, EIN, AAL | E190 DC94 CRJ2 B712 B733 B737 B738 B739 B744 B752 B753 B762 B77W A319 A320 A321 A333 A343 A388 MD88
 
User avatar
A333MSPtoAMS
Topic Author
Posts: 309
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:18 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:23 am

Hey mods. I thought i posted this on the Travel & Polls section. Can you please move thereas I think it's more appropriate there.
As of Dec 2018 I've flown 417,862 miles on 250 flights on 51 airplane types with 55 airlines traveling thru 97 airports in 43 countries. I've visited 59 countries. 2019 is looking like a pretty decent year for me.
http://cronkflies.com
 
KLDC10
Posts: 1409
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:15 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:52 am

You didn't specify a departure airport, but Air New Zealand flies from LAX to LHR on the way from AKL, and vice versa. Aircraft type is a 77W.
DC9/MD90/MD11/F70/BAE146
737/738/739/744/748/752/763/772/789
A319/A320/A321/A332/A333/A346/A359
Q400/E170/E175/E190/CS300
 
User avatar
SRQKEF
Posts: 1863
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:10 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:57 am

Finnair operates both A330s and A350s on LHR-HEL, while BA/IB operate 777s and A340s on LHR-MAD. Those are the first that come to mind for me. FI also operate 757s and 767s from LGW/LHR to KEF and fares are often cheap due to the intense competition on LON-KEF, but I guess you get plenty of those types in the States.

Regards!
Sveinn :)
Nothing compares to taking off in an empty 757 with full thrust!
 
RichardWelling
Posts: 151
Joined: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:45 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:02 am

KLDC10 wrote:
You didn't specify a departure airport, but Air New Zealand flies from LAX to LHR on the way from AKL, and vice versa. Aircraft type is a 77W.


I believe they make a technical stop in LAX.
 
User avatar
Channex757
Posts: 2350
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:07 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:22 am

RichardWelling wrote:
KLDC10 wrote:
You didn't specify a departure airport, but Air New Zealand flies from LAX to LHR on the way from AKL, and vice versa. Aircraft type is a 77W.


I believe they make a technical stop in LAX.

They have grandfathered traffic rights on the route, so ANZ can sell you a ticket for LAX-LHR as well as LAX-AKL
 
Dominion301
Posts: 2220
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:48 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:59 am

Channex757 wrote:
RichardWelling wrote:
KLDC10 wrote:
You didn't specify a departure airport, but Air New Zealand flies from LAX to LHR on the way from AKL, and vice versa. Aircraft type is a 77W.


I believe they make a technical stop in LAX.

They have grandfathered traffic rights on the route, so ANZ can sell you a ticket for LAX-LHR as well as LAX-AKL


Grandfathered or just regular full 5th freedom traffic rights?
 
User avatar
Channex757
Posts: 2350
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:07 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:51 am

Dominion301 wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
RichardWelling wrote:

I believe they make a technical stop in LAX.

They have grandfathered traffic rights on the route, so ANZ can sell you a ticket for LAX-LHR as well as LAX-AKL


Grandfathered or just regular full 5th freedom traffic rights?

Goes back decades apparently. From the days when they flew stuff like DC-8s and Constellations across the Pacific and such arrangements were a lot looser.
 
factsonly
Posts: 2696
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:08 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:31 am

Well, you could try the following:

- LHR-MAD on a BA B772 or IB A346
- MAD-AMS on UX A332 or B788
- AMS-LCY on BE DH8

You may have to stay overnight somewhere.
 
User avatar
PatrickZ80
Posts: 3882
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:33 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:48 am

London City - Isle of Man on a Saab 2000 might be an idea. Loganair operates this route on behalf of British Airways. The Saab 2000 is becoming pretty rare these days, so this might be your last chance to fly it.
 
User avatar
PatrickZ80
Posts: 3882
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:33 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:01 am

Speaking of Loganair, even more rare is their London Stansted - Dundee service on a Dornier 328. Unlike the flights to Isle of Man they operate this route under their own name. From Dundee you might do some touring around in Scotland on Loganair, they got a pretty exciting fleet.
 
Armodeen
Posts: 1180
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:17 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:04 pm

LGW-BRU on Rwandair A330-300 comes to mind, so they have 5th freedom rights I wonder?
 
User avatar
A333MSPtoAMS
Topic Author
Posts: 309
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:18 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:36 pm

Thanks everyone so far for the great ideas. Many are intriguing. I am now toying with the idea of flying AMS-MAD on Air Europa's B787 (maybe currently it is an A330, but on the dates in may I am looking at it will be a 787, at least for now). and then again trying to get on LATAM from MAD to FRA (in J, at less than US$200) and then some obscure flight to AMS from FRA.

I am also intrigued by Loganair and the Finnair flights. I've not yet been on an A350 so that might be a good way to bag one of those.

I'll have to look into the Rwandair flights. That would also be very interesting to try out.

Keep the ideas flowing!
As of Dec 2018 I've flown 417,862 miles on 250 flights on 51 airplane types with 55 airlines traveling thru 97 airports in 43 countries. I've visited 59 countries. 2019 is looking like a pretty decent year for me.
http://cronkflies.com
 
davidjohnson6
Posts: 336
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:10 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:05 pm

As far as I know, Rwandair do not have the right to carry pax solely between London Gatwick and Brussels - one needs to buy a ticket that involves travel to/from Kigali in Rwanda.

If however I'm wrong, please tell me how to buy a ticket - I and plenty of other a.netters would love to hitch a ride on this flight
 
User avatar
SRQKEF
Posts: 1863
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:10 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:06 pm

You can also log an Avro on LCY-DUB, CityJet operating for Aer Lingus. That can be combined with FlyBe/Hainan LCY-DUB-EDI in either direction where the HU 5th freedom leg is a 787.
Nothing compares to taking off in an empty 757 with full thrust!
 
User avatar
PatrickZ80
Posts: 3882
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:33 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:57 pm

Some KLM Cityhopper flights out of Amsterdam are operated by a Carpatair Fokker F-100, but unfortunately it's rarely known upfront which flights that will be. Best way to figure this out is to contact KLM about it, but even that's not a guarantee. Aircraft changes can take place.
 
KLDC10
Posts: 1409
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:15 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:17 pm

A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
LATAM from MAD to FRA (in J, at less than US$200)


I would highly recommend this flight. The hard product is easily one of the best business class products available on a scheduled flight within Europe (probably just pipped by the AY A350 and IB A340, both of which operate scheduled short-haul flights out of LHR as outlined by SRQKEF). For the price, however, it simply cannot be beat - I took the flight myself earlier this year and got a Business Class fare on LATAM for less than Lufthansa was asking for Economy. LATAM crews are excellent - very friendly and attentive.
DC9/MD90/MD11/F70/BAE146
737/738/739/744/748/752/763/772/789
A319/A320/A321/A332/A333/A346/A359
Q400/E170/E175/E190/CS300
 
trijetsonly
Posts: 685
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:38 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:23 pm

If you're looking for something really unique, fly Motor Sich (https://flymotorsich.com/en/)

No matter what route you fly and what plane you get, you will have an unique aircraft in every case.
(https://flymotorsich.com/en/pages/fleet)
A daytrip between Kiev and Odessa oder Kiev and Lviv is easy.
Happy Landings
 
SCQ83
Posts: 5331
Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:32 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:22 am

A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
Thanks everyone so far for the great ideas. Many are intriguing. I am now toying with the idea of flying AMS-MAD on Air Europa's B787 (maybe currently it is an A330, but on the dates in may I am looking at it will be a 787, at least for now). and then again trying to get on LATAM from MAD to FRA (in J, at less than US$200) and then some obscure flight to AMS from FRA!


I flew last year MAD-FRA on Business.

I purchased MAD-FRA for 37 EUR. They offer me an upgrade. I bid for 40 EUR and got it. So I flew J for 77 EUR.

Bear in mind Madrid-Frankfurt is very crowded (Iberia, Lufthansa, Air Europa, Ryanair and LATAM) and very business / connections (in MAD and FRA) oriented. That means that in non-business days (e.g. weekends, bank holidays, etc) fares are abysmal. My MAD-FRA was half empty and A LOT of people used the 5th freedom flight in MAD (plenty of people checking-in in MAD).

So I suspect few people fly SCL-FRA and they are very dependant on the MAD-FRA leg and then back to my previous point. In non-business days, you have 5 carriers competing for the few PAX flying the route, so LATAM sells those tickets and upgrades very cheaply.
 
upperdeckfan
Posts: 916
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:59 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:18 am

SCQ83 wrote:
I flew last year MAD-FRA on Business.

I purchased MAD-FRA for 37 EUR. They offer me an upgrade. I bid for 40 EUR and got it. So I flew J for 77 EUR.

Bear in mind Madrid-Frankfurt is very crowded (Iberia, Lufthansa, Air Europa, Ryanair and LATAM) and very business / connections (in MAD and FRA) oriented. That means that in non-business days (e.g. weekends, bank holidays, etc) fares are abysmal. My MAD-FRA was half empty and A LOT of people used the 5th freedom flight in MAD (plenty of people checking-in in MAD).

So I suspect few people fly SCL-FRA and they are very dependant on the MAD-FRA leg and then back to my previous point. In non-business days, you have 5 carriers competing for the few PAX flying the route, so LATAM sells those tickets and upgrades very cheaply.


Few people might have flown SCL-FRA the day you did otherwise LA would've discontinued MAD-FRA tag-on long ago. Profit with these fares on consistent basis is questionable even filling the plane with MAD originating pax.
748,744,742,741,772,773,762,763,
764, 789, 732,733,735,737,738,739,
752, 722, 717,74M,DC10,DC9,M82,
M83, M87, M88,310,319,320,321,332,
333, 343, 346,359,388,L1011,CR2,
CR7, CR9,CRK, E175,E190,ATR42,
DSH8, CS1,CS3
 
User avatar
FlyRow
Posts: 694
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:05 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:12 pm

trijetsonly wrote:
If you're looking for something really unique, fly Motor Sich (https://flymotorsich.com/en/)

No matter what route you fly and what plane you get, you will have an unique aircraft in every case.
(https://flymotorsich.com/en/pages/fleet)
A daytrip between Kiev and Odessa oder Kiev and Lviv is easy.


interesting that motor-sich started flights from AMS/LON.
F70-F100-RJ85-RJ70-E190-319-320-321-733-734-735-737-738-752-753-763-764-772-744-380
 
trijetsonly
Posts: 685
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:38 pm

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:35 pm

FlyRow wrote:
trijetsonly wrote:
If you're looking for something really unique, fly Motor Sich (https://flymotorsich.com/en/)

No matter what route you fly and what plane you get, you will have an unique aircraft in every case.
(https://flymotorsich.com/en/pages/fleet)
A daytrip between Kiev and Odessa oder Kiev and Lviv is easy.


interesting that motor-sich started flights from AMS/LON.


No, they didn't. But since MAD and FRA are also part of the itineary, an extension to Kiev wouldn't be a big deal.
Happy Landings
 
bluefrog
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:22 am

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:59 pm

KLDC10 wrote:
A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
LATAM from MAD to FRA (in J, at less than US$200)


I would highly recommend this flight. The hard product is easily one of the best business class products available on a scheduled flight within Europe (probably just pipped by the AY A350 and IB A340, both of which operate scheduled short-haul flights out of LHR as outlined by SRQKEF). For the price, however, it simply cannot be beat - I took the flight myself earlier this year and got a Business Class fare on LATAM for less than Lufthansa was asking for Economy. LATAM crews are excellent - very friendly and attentive.

have you seen the trip report on youtube ?was that you ?looked great,
by the way he said london or AMS to somewhere but yeh a cheap flight down to MADor FRA why not

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: B747forever, dangerhere and 30 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos