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Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:46 pm
by Narfish641
Greetings everyone! I would like to hear your opinion on the loudest, most intense engine start ups on any aircraft you flown. I only have flown on the Boeing 737-700 and -800 variants on Southwest in person and it gets pretty loud when those CFM56-7Bs come to life. But in my personal opinion, the 777s equipped with the GE90 engines are absolutely insane!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:51 pm
by CarbonFibre
What about the CSeries? Or is the howl just during taxi?

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:00 pm
by paullam
The most intense one that I’ve experienced is indeed the 777’s GE90. However I also quite like the GE equipped 787s. GE seems to be good on that :D While it’s not intense, it just has this deep sound which I like. It’s not so much on the RR equipped ones IMO.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:24 pm
by Narfish641
CarbonFibre wrote:
What about the CSeries? Or is the howl just during taxi?


I haven't heard the A220 start up on the inside yet, but its real interesting how the PW1500G starts up.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:56 pm
by xxcr
77W have a unique startup. the whole plane shakes at start-up.....but you cant beat the take off though! the sound of the GE90-115 engines are music to my ears!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:46 am
by bohica
L-1011. When those RB-211's start, you feel it.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:30 am
by spacecadet
Nothing beats the ghostly "whoosh" of the DC-8: https://youtu.be/P_USqwNZvoI?t=98

(It actually happens at around the 2:12 mark, but I started at the beginning of the spoolup.)

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:41 pm
by 747Whale
Radial engines tend to be a lot more interesting on start up.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:58 am
by UA735WL
Sitting in the back of an MD-80 during start is a pretty neat experience; the starter engages and the sound progresses from a low rumble and increases in pitch several octaves until it reaches a steady howl that sounds characteristically low bypass and (IMO) exceptionally more interesting then most types today.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:25 am
by 69bug
I'm with Bohica on the RB211 but my perspective is more from the ramp-side, not from on-board. They also seemed to smell 'richer' than other engines as there was always a strong smell of jetfuel whenever these started up.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:16 am
by ExpatVet

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:22 pm
by Loran
The An-148 with its Progress D-436 engine is surely in the top-5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5OHBsinP9I

Regards,
Loran

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:08 am
by Narfish641
paullam wrote:
The most intense one that I’ve experienced is indeed the 777’s GE90. However I also quite like the GE equipped 787s. GE seems to be good on that :D While it’s not intense, it just has this deep sound which I like. It’s not so much on the RR equipped ones IMO.


Deep sound as in this? Because it sure does have a really intense growl and rumble to it. I can imagine how much the cabin is shaking from those GEnx engines coming to life! Looks like the GE90 and GEnx are closely matched!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV3A3JHE-Xg

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:09 am
by Narfish641
spacecadet wrote:
Nothing beats the ghostly "whoosh" of the DC-8: https://youtu.be/P_USqwNZvoI?t=98

(It actually happens at around the 2:12 mark, but I started at the beginning of the spoolup.)


Beautiful sound!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:11 am
by Narfish641
ExpatVet wrote:
https://youtu.be/CiXxCgjyKeI

Canberra :)


Looks pretty cool! Never seen cartridge start engines on a plane before!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:14 am
by Narfish641
bohica wrote:
L-1011. When those RB-211's start, you feel it.


I wish I got a chance to fly on one, but that will never happen. I heard those engines are intense though!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:18 am
by Narfish641
UA735WL wrote:
Sitting in the back of an MD-80 during start is a pretty neat experience; the starter engages and the sound progresses from a low rumble and increases in pitch several octaves until it reaches a steady howl that sounds characteristically low bypass and (IMO) exceptionally more interesting then most types today.


I seen a couple of videos where I heard the JT8D engines start. Sounds amazing!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:24 am
by Narfish641
Loran wrote:
The An-148 with its Progress D-436 engine is surely in the top-5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5OHBsinP9I

Regards,
Loran


Has a nice rumble to it! I love the high pitched whine that is faintly present in the cabin.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:23 pm
by PatrickZ80
It seems the ATR 42/72 is also pretty intense. No personal experience, I've never flown an ATR. However for such a small plane they make a lot of noise, more than an average jet.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:06 pm
by fallap
The F-16 had a rather intense start-up, only got to sit in the back seat during an engine test (never as a passenger in flight *tears*).

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:04 am
by Lightning12
I do enjoy the startup sound of the PW4000 engines
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CHSeESjxHDs

Also the sound of the PW4000s spooling up during takeoff
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JhFVZw2y4lM

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:08 pm
by strfyr51
paullam wrote:
The most intense one that I’ve experienced is indeed the 777’s GE90. However I also quite like the GE equipped 787s. GE seems to be good on that :D While it’s not intense, it just has this deep sound which I like. It’s not so much on the RR equipped ones IMO.

The GE90 engine start can and Has been modified with the new fuel nozzle scheduling. It's not near as bad as the RR used to be. The first time I saw that thing start?
It scared to fool out of me and that was modified to start more smoothly as well. It .was all fuel scheduling..

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:12 am
by HAWKXP
F-27

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:58 pm
by ImperialEagle
PW 2800's
Anything with C-W TC3350's
JT-3D Powered DC-8's (Series 50's and -61) (The "mating call")
RB211 (Especially when very cold)

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:31 am
by Moose135
KC-135A on an Alert start with cartridges in all 4 engines...

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:54 am
by cpd
xxcr wrote:
77W have a unique startup. the whole plane shakes at start-up.....but you cant beat the take off though! the sound of the GE90-115 engines are music to my ears!



777 with GE90 certainly the loudest I’ve experienced.

But the IL-62M would surely be up there. Forget the safety briefing, you won’t hear the lady talking anymore with those screeching loud engines!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by xxcr
cpd wrote:
xxcr wrote:
77W have a unique startup. the whole plane shakes at start-up.....but you cant beat the take off though! the sound of the GE90-115 engines are music to my ears!



777 with GE90 certainly the loudest I’ve experienced.

But the IL-62M would surely be up there. Forget the safety briefing, you won’t hear the lady talking anymore with those screeching loud engines!


i've never flown on the IL-62M! one day i will!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:56 am
by Runway28L
From personal experience:

B77W with the GE90-115B
B763 and MD11 with the P&W 4000
A32N with the CFM LEAP-1A
F-15C/D with the P&W F100

Moose135 wrote:
KC-135A on an Alert start with cartridges in all 4 engines...

Based on vids that I've seen, I'd toss in the B-52G as well.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:58 pm
by Moose135
Runway28L wrote:
Moose135 wrote:
KC-135A on an Alert start with cartridges in all 4 engines...

Based on vids that I've seen, I'd toss in the B-52G as well.

We didn't have B-52s based with us (thankfully!) but yes, I've seen those videos, and agree!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:44 am
by jupiter2
The IL-86 was the best sounding engine start up I've heard. I videoed one in SIN once, couldn't see the plane, but did it just to get the engine start up noise, it was worth it.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:10 am
by 747Whale
ImperialEagle wrote:
PW 2800's
Anything with C-W TC3350's
JT-3D Powered DC-8's (Series 50's and -61) (The "mating call")
RB211 (Especially when very cold)


The 4360 is smokier and more impressive and sounds better on the start and idle, but it doesn't pop and snort the same; any radial with collectors doesn't nearly so much. Put short stacks on them, however, it 's like a symphony of 12 gauge shotguns out of sync with one another. The R2600 on the B25, for example.

A little too much throttle during the start and it's got some noise to it, and possibly a carburetor backfire (and subsequent fire).

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:42 pm
by CYYTguy
bohica wrote:
L-1011. When those RB-211's start, you feel it.

When I worked as a ramper at CYVR in the early 90’s, we would all line up to watch Air Canada fire up their L1011. The sound was impressive but the smoke show was equally crazy. Anyone who has seen this knows what I’m saying.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:00 am
by PPVLC
The DC-10 had an unforgettable sound.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:13 am
by 426Shadow
Civilian: GE90-115B
Military: F-15E

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:15 am
by dik909
I'll take 'RS-25 (x3) & Twin Solid Rocket Boosters' for $1000, Alex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc

:D

(where definition of 'aircraft' = machine capable of flight)

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:57 pm
by Fuling
I'd have to say the 77W. I used to live a stones-throw away from IST, and when the winds were blowing the right way I could hear the GE90's start up from the lounge room. It was the only sounds we'd hear from the airport and it was absolute music to my ears!

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:42 pm
by Channex757
Meh. Big fans are boring!

The sound of my youth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-CNrtQpXWs

BAC One-Eleven air starter. Absolutely classic noise and the squawk as the starter disengages is totally unique.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:57 pm
by WildcatYXU
dik909 wrote:
I'll take 'RS-25 (x3) & Twin Solid Rocket Boosters' for $1000, Alex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc

:D

(where definition of 'aircraft' = machine capable of flight)


Well, I don't think there are too many audio systems in the world capable of reproducing this properly. The moment when the sound finally arrives is incredible. The sound is everywhere, it is shaking your bones, you can physically feel it. You know it is coming, as you can hear the noise through the countdown audio system, but when it arrives...oh my...

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:48 pm
by dik909
WildcatYXU wrote:
dik909 wrote:
I'll take 'RS-25 (x3) & Twin Solid Rocket Boosters' for $1000, Alex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc

:D

(where definition of 'aircraft' = machine capable of flight)


Well, I don't think there are too many audio systems in the world capable of reproducing this properly. The moment when the sound finally arrives is incredible. The sound is everywhere, it is shaking your bones, you can physically feel it. You know it is coming, as you can hear the noise through the countdown audio system, but when it arrives...oh my...


Right !? When I was young my father purchased a bigscreen TV with a total surround sound speaker system. I'm talking, boomin' !! Well, he also got a Laserdisk (if that dates any of this) called Earthlight, which was basically just videos of earth from space, set to relaxing music. The very first clip is of a shuttle launch, and I swear, for not being able to reproduce the sound & experience of being there live, it certainly came close. ;)

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:56 pm
by WildcatYXU
dik909 wrote:
Right !? When I was young my father purchased a bigscreen TV with a total surround sound speaker system. I'm talking, boomin' !! Well, he also got a Laserdisk (if that dates any of this) called Earthlight, which was basically just videos of earth from space, set to relaxing music. The very first clip is of a shuttle launch, and I swear, for not being able to reproduce the sound & experience of being there live, it certainly came close. ;)


Well, I've designed and built some speaker systems capable of shaking your bones when listening to good heavy metal. But that feeling didn't even come close to the one at launch. Granted, I never really listened to a good quality recording of a space shuttle launch. Nonetheless, the real stuff is the real stuff and I'm happy that I made it to one. It won't happen again but I'm already thinking about the Falcon Heavy.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:27 pm
by stratosphere
CYYTguy wrote:
bohica wrote:
L-1011. When those RB-211's start, you feel it.

When I worked as a ramper at CYVR in the early 90’s, we would all line up to watch Air Canada fire up their L1011. The sound was impressive but the smoke show was equally crazy. Anyone who has seen this knows what I’m saying.


Absolutely agree with this...When I was working as a line mechanic in EWR in the 80's I could "hear" TWA start their L1011 even when I couldn't see it and if it was winter time and cold it would be surrounded with a big cloud of white smoke. Of all the airplanes I have been around in the 30+ years I have been in the industry I have to say the L1011 was the most distinct in that regard.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:35 am
by teachpdx
The 1500G on the A220 howls at startup and as it comes off idle. It’s quite cool and sounds awesome inside.
I was talking with a DL A220 Captain at LGA last Thursday (on the DL inaugural day) and he said he loves the sound so much that he’ll purposefully bring it off idle more than necessary during taxi.

Re: Aircraft With The Most Intense Engine Start Up

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:04 pm
by Phosphorus
Yak-40 must be up there, especially if you keep in mind that it's a really small plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIvHAYioipg

What you don't see in this video, and what I got to experience a lot: after engine start, but prior to taxi, the engines are run at high thrust (take-off?) for some time. The noise was incredible. People "in the industry" used to joke that this "engine test", prior to taxiing, had a fuel bill equaling the one for the flight itself. No idea if they were just kidding/ exaggerating, or it was indeed nearly as bad.