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novak500
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Connection time in Frankfurt

Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:44 pm

Hi Everyone,

I've read a few posts about connection times in FRA (good and bad), thought I would pose my senerio and see what people think. I'm looking at a flight from Malaga (Spain) to Toronto via FRA. The AGP-FRA segment is on Lufthansa, the FRA-YYZ on a code-share Air Canada flight and it will be a single ticket booked through Lufthansa. Assuming the AGP-FRA flight is on schedule is a connection time of 1 hour and 15 minutes enough or should I bring my running shoes! I'm not sure what piers these flights typically operate from and if I need to go through any security or passport control.

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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:31 pm

Since you are leaving the Schengen area, you will go through passport control in FRA.
 
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:49 pm

1 hour and 15 minutes? That's an eternity at an efficient airport like FRA. We made a 45 minute connection once after our inbound from NAP was late and we ended up at a bus stand. Didn't take us more than 10-15 minutes to clear immigration and we got to our Z gate with more than enough time to spare.
 
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:11 am

9w748capt wrote:
1 hour and 15 minutes? That's an eternity at an efficient airport like FRA. We made a 45 minute connection once after our inbound from NAP was late and we ended up at a bus stand. Didn't take us more than 10-15 minutes to clear immigration and we got to our Z gate with more than enough time to spare.


Wouldn't bet on it. I recently missed a 55min connection (all Schengen, no passport control) in this "efficient" airport. The connection time starts when your wheels touch the runway, not when you reach the terminal. If you're parked at a remote stand it can be up to half an hour before the bus gets you to the building. So already your 1 hour 15 minutes connection is half gone. If your inbound plane is late (mine was) that's even more buffer gone. If they close the next flight's gate early (they did) then even if you're there in time you won't get on the plane.
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:32 am

You'll be fine. This ticket wouldn't have been sold if the airline thought you won't be able to make it. Last time I did AMS-FRA-DEN in 35 mins, including a lengthy bus ride from a remote stand!

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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:21 am

Air Canada flight leave from pier B, Malaga should arrive at pier A. From pier A to pier B there is a tunnel with passport control only. The other way, from B to A there is also security control. Sou you won't have a security control, only passport, which is very efficient for EU citizens.
If there is no major delay, you should be very fine.

Going to Toronto from FRA on a LH ticket will also give you lot's of alternatives on LH or AC, in case something goes wrong.
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:40 pm

You'll be fine, but not much
Check the day of departure the gate where you'll arrive, multiple times I arrived at gate A02 and the second flight was departing from A60something and it is quite a long way to go.
But there are also automatic carpets that can speed you a little bit.
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm

Thanks everyone. much appreciated.
 
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:42 pm

Just have a read of the other FRA connection thread, the OP reports that 50 minutes wasn't enough in his case. Delayed inbound flight, remote stand and early closing of gate was enough for him to miss his connecting flight.
 
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:16 pm

We are talking about a well organized airline and a well organized airport. They wouldn't offer connections like that, if they wouldn't work in a big majority of cases. Of course you can always have bad weather, technical problems, whatever. They will try to get you on your connecting flight if they can. And if not, they book you on another flight. Where is the problem?


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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:02 am

My most recent experience at FRA was from the Middle East to Newark with a three-hour connection, all on Lufthansa. And I almost didn’t make it.
-An unexpected 45-min holding pattern above FRA
-No available gate, a long step down from the 340 to a bus
-Somehow got out of the schengen area, so had to go through security again (my fault, but it’s easy to make a mistake)
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:45 pm

75 minutes is more than enough if everything goes as expected, but in FRA that's never a sure thing.

You will be in jeopardy once your flight from AGP gets hold in the air due to lack of slots or you get a remote stand and the bus isn't there in time or there is an long queue to clear inmigration, all of which are realistic scenarios at FRA.

Having said that, I wouldn't be that much concerned as there are multiple LH/AC's FRA-YYZ so you will be well protected if you don't make it.
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:06 pm

And that’s it. FRA is never a sure thing.
On a Saturday, it took me 15 minutes from a Schengen flight to get into the plane to PHL.
With the wrong runway and a city tour and a bus tour and arriving at the wrong gate - you kinda need more than an hour. I feel that the latter is more often the case than the first example. I avoid FRA as much as I can and do prefer MUC. However, I also feel that at least LH is paying more attention to connections. It’s not getting worse at FRA.

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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:29 pm

1 hour 15 minutes isn't much at Frankfurt, even for intra-schengen. While it is theory possible to park at a jet-bridge and be able to walk less than 100 meters to your next gate, chances are that at least one of your flights will be departing or arriving at a bus-gate, and the bus rides at Frankfurt are notoriously long, easily up to 15 minutes long. Intra-schengen, they will drop you off at the corner of the schengen terminal. From there it can be 20 minutes to walk to the schengen gates in B through the tunnel (beware that the elevators sometimes don't work or have long queues, meaning stairs), or to far-flung gates like A42. Due to bus-boarding, they will gladly close the gates 20 minutes prior to actual departure too.

My shortest connection was 50 minutes intra-schengen, and I barely made it with only seconds to spare. I'm even familiar with the airport. Going through passport control on top of being unfamiliar, 1:15 is cutting it really tight. But on the other hand, Lufthansa sold you the ticket, and then they must honor it. If you miss it, they will have to rebook you at no cost and provide meal vouchers and hotel accommodation if need be. You may also be eligible for a €600 discount as per the EU air travel compensation scheme.

BTW, Munich is nicer. They pick you up directly at the aircraft in a car and drive you to the next if you are about to miss the connection.
 
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Re: Connection time in Frankfurt

Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:02 pm

Thanks for all the advice, I'm going to go with it. I don't need to be home the next day, or the day after so if I get a bit of an extended holiday that's okay.

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