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UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:38 pm

Starting today January 30th UA is offering free DIRECTV on all 211 aircraft equip with this service. Free DIRECTV is now in addition to UA's already free personal devise entertainment.

I'm not sure why it took UA so long to get to this point but this is truly a step in the right direction. I don't see UA undoing a Smisk era mistake (choosing not to install PTV's on all mainline jets) just because of the cost factor but finally offering free DIRECTV has been something our customers have been asking for, for years. Now free, free free free, free free, free free free is finally hear. (Sorry I couldn't help myself that stupid turbo tax commercial was on TV) LOL!!

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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:05 pm

If I am in F, I rarely watch their free DIRECTV. Just not interested. How many passengers in Y are actually buying it? Has it ever made money for either UA or DIRECTV? Probably not when you factor in the huge upfront cost of installation.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:10 pm

Excellent. We are flying back from JAX to DEN on Friday. It’ll give my daughter another option to stop her getting bored.
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:13 pm

traindoc wrote:
If I am in F, I rarely watch their free DIRECTV. Just not interested. How many passengers in Y are actually buying it? Has it ever made money for either UA or DIRECTV? Probably not when you factor in the huge upfront cost of installation.


Was never set up to make much money for UA (or CO before it.) UA gets a very small percentage of the revenue from DTV mostly just to offset the cost of carrying the extra weight around. DTV pays for the equipment, maintenance and installation of their systems.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:13 pm

Aren't those TVs slated to be removed once the DIRECTV contract ends?

I enjoyed DIRECTV back when I flew on UA primarily for Bloomberg in the mornings and sports in the evenings.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:27 pm

traindoc wrote:
If I am in F, I rarely watch their free DIRECTV. Just not interested. How many passengers in Y are actually buying it? Has it ever made money for either UA or DIRECTV? Probably not when you factor in the huge upfront cost of installation.

Whenever I fly United in Y, I always pay for it. Makes a huge difference on longer flights, like FLL-SFO to have some kind of entertainment.

It’s about time too that they did this. Delta has offered complimentary entertainment for close to three years now and American for two years. When I have to fly on a legacy, I would normally choose them over UA (unless there was a huge price difference) because of the seatback entertainment.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:30 pm

the only time in about 10 years that I paid for it was when it was sunday to watch NFL, saturday to watch college football or baseball playoffs. it was too expensive to do on most trips where it wasn't really worth it.
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:34 pm

Interesting announcement from AA today also, Free Apple Music for their customers.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ameri ... 2019-01-30
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:37 pm

traindoc wrote:
If I am in F, I rarely watch their free DIRECTV. Just not interested. How many passengers in Y are actually buying it? Has it ever made money for either UA or DIRECTV? Probably not when you factor in the huge upfront cost of installation.

I always wondered the same thing. $6 for tv on a 3 hour flight doesnt cut it for me personally. I'd rather sleep or listen to music because I'm cheap. I always wondered if it wpuld be worth it to add $1 to the fares to include "free" DTV and if that would make more money than a handful of people buying it per flight.
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:09 pm

golfingboy wrote:
Aren't those TVs slated to be removed once the DIRECTV contract ends?

I enjoyed DIRECTV back when I flew on UA primarily for Bloomberg in the mornings and sports in the evenings.


I’m sure UA wouldn’t announce this great entertainment enhancement to just take it away in a couple years! Seem to me like they regnatioated the contract and I’m sure probably will announce at a later date that they will add a new updated screen and add to more narrow body aircraft.
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:21 pm

miaami wrote:
Interesting announcement from AA today also, Free Apple Music for their customers.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ameri ... 2019-01-30


Free apple music for their customers who are already iTunes subscribers....ie they are removing the WiFi block on streaming music from iTunes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... UwmMd6po-Y
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:36 pm

Finally, after much too long. Only makes sense to buy it on a transcon. The one time I bought it was on an IAD-SFO a couple of years back, and $7 seemed a little steep. Glad to see UA becoming more passenger friendly!

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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:08 pm

That's fantastic - for the 5 or so aircraft that still have DTV.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:16 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
That's fantastic - for the 5 or so aircraft that still have DTV.


200+ aircraft actually...
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:19 pm

If it's 211 aircraft with DirecTV, how many of the ~775 mainline aircraft have PTV/AVOD at every seat?
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:23 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
If it's 211 aircraft with DirecTV, how many of the ~775 mainline aircraft have PTV/AVOD at every seat?


220 aircraft with nose to tail AVOD if I did my math right.
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:35 pm

Does this mean more advertisements at the highest brightness level on red eyes? It was fine when you could turn the screen off with the dimmer, but they seem to have disabled that function. Nothing like trying to sleep with a 1000 lumen screen flashing 2 feet from your face
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:42 pm

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Does this mean more advertisements at the highest brightness level on red eyes? It was fine when you could turn the screen off with the dimmer, but they seem to have disabled that function. Nothing like trying to sleep with a 1000 lumen screen flashing 2 feet from your face


Dimmers were still working on the 738 that took us to JAX on Saturday.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:01 pm

While I am mostly fine with airlines replacing PTV with PDE, it would be nice if UA at least had live streaming TV (and if it actually worked, unlike WN).
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:11 pm

intotheair wrote:
While I am mostly fine with airlines replacing PTV with PDE, it would be nice if UA at least had live streaming TV (and if it actually worked, unlike WN).


Unlike others here, I have paid for DTV numerous times. Many times it is for my kids on long(er) flights from EWR.
I see this as a big win for me.

I also hope this is a step to having UA add the DTV service into the PDE program so I can stream the live TV on those planes that do not have DTV.

I have to wonder if the sale of LiveTV back a few years ago from JetBlue to Thales started this. I mean I was surprised when UA started offering PDE on the DTV planes. I mean that is easily taking (potential) revenue from that.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:30 pm

Paid many times to DTV on board, helps a lot to fly 6-7 hours across the country
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:32 pm

Nice move to make it free. Now if they would just move the live TV to the streaming options too, like WN.

jeffh747 wrote:
It’s about time too that they did this. Delta has offered complimentary entertainment for close to three years now and American for two years. When I have to fly on a legacy, I would normally choose them over UA (unless there was a huge price difference) because of the seatback entertainment.


I believe UA was the first to offer all available content (minus DirecTV) for free. DL and AA followed shortly after. One could say UA led in this area, got behind with the DirecTV contract, and is now back inline.
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:46 pm

Have they renegotiated the contract to allow this, or could UA have done this years ago? From what I remember reading they would have gotten out of that deal years ago if they could

Good development, as even though its not a large % of the fleet, I find myself on one of these guys way too often
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:51 pm

i always have issue with the headphone jacks.....so i rarely buy it, but im glad its now free!!
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:55 pm

MSPNWA wrote:
Nice move to make it free. Now if they would just move the live TV to the streaming options too, like WN.

jeffh747 wrote:
It’s about time too that they did this. Delta has offered complimentary entertainment for close to three years now and American for two years. When I have to fly on a legacy, I would normally choose them over UA (unless there was a huge price difference) because of the seatback entertainment.


I believe UA was the first to offer all available content (minus DirecTV) for free. DL and AA followed shortly after. One could say UA led in this area, got behind with the DirecTV contract, and is now back inline.


I guess it depends on how you define 'this area'. If 'this area' is free Live TV, United has lagged woefully behind DL, who rolled it out effective July 1, 2016. AA announced in August 2016 that their inflight entertainment would be free, but only late last year did they start rolling out free live tv on a portion of their fleet.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:02 pm

but can i get Match Game?
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:05 pm

How mad is B6 right now with that news?
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:09 pm

winginit wrote:
MSPNWA wrote:
Nice move to make it free. Now if they would just move the live TV to the streaming options too, like WN.

jeffh747 wrote:
It’s about time too that they did this. Delta has offered complimentary entertainment for close to three years now and American for two years. When I have to fly on a legacy, I would normally choose them over UA (unless there was a huge price difference) because of the seatback entertainment.


I believe UA was the first to offer all available content (minus DirecTV) for free. DL and AA followed shortly after. One could say UA led in this area, got behind with the DirecTV contract, and is now back inline.


I guess it depends on how you define 'this area'. If 'this area' is free Live TV, United has lagged woefully behind DL, who rolled it out effective July 1, 2016. AA announced in August 2016 that their inflight entertainment would be free, but only late last year did they start rolling out free live tv on a portion of their fleet.


Hey, I'm happy to see any meaningful attempt at service differentiation. If UA wants people to pay more that what they would on Spirit, Frontier or Southwest, they need to give people some reasons. We've got the best network means nothing to infrequent flyers happy with a simple CHI-MCO every other year.
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:10 pm

winginit wrote:
MSPNWA wrote:
Nice move to make it free. Now if they would just move the live TV to the streaming options too, like WN.

jeffh747 wrote:
It’s about time too that they did this. Delta has offered complimentary entertainment for close to three years now and American for two years. When I have to fly on a legacy, I would normally choose them over UA (unless there was a huge price difference) because of the seatback entertainment.


I believe UA was the first to offer all available content (minus DirecTV) for free. DL and AA followed shortly after. One could say UA led in this area, got behind with the DirecTV contract, and is now back inline.


I guess it depends on how you define 'this area'. If 'this area' is free Live TV, United has lagged woefully behind DL, who rolled it out effective July 1, 2016. AA announced in August 2016 that their inflight entertainment would be free, but only late last year did they start rolling out free live tv on a portion of their fleet.


When did UA make AVOD/Personal Device Streaming available? In the beginning the plan was to make it available on all aircraft that weren't locked in with the Directv deal, but then later they allowed personal device streaming on Directv aircraft as well
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:12 pm

As a loyal UA flyer, i have been on their 737's from ORD to home, and loved the TV's, but never paid for it as the flight is less than an hour and i would rather rest or look out the window. Now that it's free, that makes me very happy! I really enjoyed watching it while at the gate (free preview), as I could catch some news or a sporting event. Way to go United!
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:16 pm

winginit wrote:
I guess it depends on how you define 'this area'. If 'this area' is free Live TV, United has lagged woefully behind DL, who rolled it out effective July 1, 2016. AA announced in August 2016 that their inflight entertainment would be free, but only late last year did they start rolling out free live tv on a portion of their fleet.


It's not how I defined it. It's how the poster defined it. The details clearly didn't limit it to live TV. DL has had free live TV for eons on select aircraft (long before 2016). WN has had it since 2013. AA recently stared rolling it out (unless you consider what was on their international widebodies as live TV--I don't).
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:18 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
winginit wrote:
MSPNWA wrote:
Nice move to make it free. Now if they would just move the live TV to the streaming options too, like WN.



I believe UA was the first to offer all available content (minus DirecTV) for free. DL and AA followed shortly after. One could say UA led in this area, got behind with the DirecTV contract, and is now back inline.


I guess it depends on how you define 'this area'. If 'this area' is free Live TV, United has lagged woefully behind DL, who rolled it out effective July 1, 2016. AA announced in August 2016 that their inflight entertainment would be free, but only late last year did they start rolling out free live tv on a portion of their fleet.


Hey, I'm happy to see any meaningful attempt at service differentiation. If UA wants people to pay more that what they would on Spirit, Frontier or Southwest, they need to give people some reasons. We've got the best network means nothing to infrequent flyers happy with a simple CHI-MCO every other year.
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:33 pm

This doesn't make sense to me. UA has decided there will be no PTVs in any new narrowbody deliveries. They are offering a product upgrade for PTVs when it's clear their IFE strategy exclude PTVs.

I understand UA also decided to remove PTVs from existing narrowbody aircraft. Or is that AA?
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:34 pm

intotheair wrote:
While I am mostly fine with airlines replacing PTV with PDE, it would be nice if UA at least had live streaming TV (and if it actually worked, unlike WN).


There are dozens of movies and TV shows on UA’s PDE. I prefer it to the live tv on WN
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:39 pm

When the tvs are free I see a very high use rate. When they charge I agree the numbers are pretty small unless you are on a transcon then people will give in.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:58 pm

jayunited wrote:
Starting today January 30th UA is offering free DIRECTV on all 211 aircraft equip with this service. Free DIRECTV is now in addition to UA's already free personal devise entertainment.

https://hub.united.com/message-to-our-c ... 40539.html


Agreed, finally time to provide it free! Another customer friendly option would be to give F passengers free internet.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:02 pm

Always nice to get something added and not removed.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:13 pm

max999 wrote:
This doesn't make sense to me. UA has decided there will be no PTVs in any new narrowbody deliveries. They are offering a product upgrade for PTVs when it's clear their IFE strategy exclude PTVs.

I understand UA also decided to remove PTVs from existing narrowbody aircraft. Or is that AA?


You are thinking of AA....UA hasn’t taken delivery of narrow body aircraft with PTVs in years but hasn’t said they would never do it again. With this change I would not be shocked to see DTV added to the MAXes.
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:19 pm

max999 wrote:
This doesn't make sense to me. UA has decided there will be no PTVs in any new narrowbody deliveries. They are offering a product upgrade for PTVs when it's clear their IFE strategy exclude PTVs.

I understand UA also decided to remove PTVs from existing narrowbody aircraft. Or is that AA?


AA is removing seatback TVs from there narrow body fleet. Has that process started yet? They announced it last year I believe.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:26 pm

ual777 wrote:
intotheair wrote:
While I am mostly fine with airlines replacing PTV with PDE, it would be nice if UA at least had live streaming TV (and if it actually worked, unlike WN).


There are dozens of movies and TV shows on UA’s PDE. I prefer it to the live tv on WN


WN has free movies on their streaming entertainment in addition to the live tv.
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:32 pm

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:
How mad is B6 right now with that news?


Maybe it's UAL getting this in line for a merger with B6 lol.

I always thought UAL would offer free internet ahead of free DTV. That's pretty awesome to nail down a deal with them, finally, as late as it is.

Recall many of those installations are from almost 10 years ago so DTV probably threw in the towel to give it for free. They made their money on it already. I wonder if more screens will be installed on other aircraft or if they'll update the UI a bit?

Adding music channels would be cool too. Finally those annoying ads they play to promote it will be gone.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:37 pm

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I guess it depends on how you define 'this area'. If 'this area' is free Live TV, United has lagged woefully behind DL, who rolled it out effective July 1, 2016.


To the best of my knowledge, the live TV on Delta has always been complimentary, even going back to when the PTVs first debuted on Song. Post-Song, the PTVs were kept on the 757s and the live Dish service remained complimentary. What became free on DL in 2016 was the on-demand library of TV shows and movies, and they had made those complimentary for passengers in F and Y+ even before that.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:53 pm

I guess with how few people ever bothered to buy the DirecTV considering it's basically paying to to watch commercials half the flight, it was going to eventually come down to either removing it and shaving the weight (as well as the under-seat box), or making the most of it and at least making it something to add to customer satisfaction. Now flying on a UA 737 doesn't have to be something to dread!
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:06 pm

Remember folks new credit card rules state credit card transactions need to be chip and not swipe. By swiping your card the fraud falls on the airline and not the credit company. Cheaper to give programming than retrofit all the ife to read chip than to deal with fraudulent transactions.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:13 pm

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Remember folks new credit card rules state credit card transactions need to be chip and not swipe. By swiping your card the fraud falls on the airline and not the credit company. Cheaper to give programming than retrofit all the ife to read chip than to deal with fraudulent transactions.


Is that really true? Just curious, because my bank card's chip broke and vendors would say to try 3 times and then the swipe function is enabled. Not at all places but some.

Of course the super frustrating thing is having to wait 5-7 days for a new card in the mail since Chase doesn't do temporary debit cards anymore just ATM cards :mad:
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:29 pm

N649DL wrote:
mackdad wrote:
Remember folks new credit card rules state credit card transactions need to be chip and not swipe. By swiping your card the fraud falls on the airline and not the credit company. Cheaper to give programming than retrofit all the ife to read chip than to deal with fraudulent transactions.


Is that really true? Just curious, because my bank card's chip broke and vendors would say to try 3 times and then the swipe function is enabled. Not at all places but some.

Of course the super frustrating thing is having to wait 5-7 days for a new card in the mail since Chase doesn't do temporary debit cards anymore just ATM cards :mad:



Look up EMV compliance law. It’s all there. The magnetic strip is going away completely. Way cheaper to offer IFE free than installing chip readers. That’s the real reason airlines are going to free entertainment. They can spin it as a customers service improvement but it really is a cost saving measure.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:13 pm

Wednesdayite wrote:
B737900ER wrote:
Does this mean more advertisements at the highest brightness level on red eyes? It was fine when you could turn the screen off with the dimmer, but they seem to have disabled that function. Nothing like trying to sleep with a 1000 lumen screen flashing 2 feet from your face


Dimmers were still working on the 738 that took us to JAX on Saturday.

Every hour or so an advertisement for the mileage plus explorer card and a DTV preview will play on all screens. The dimming feature is disabled during the commercial and it comes on even if you’ve previously dimmed your screen. It’s most notable on red eyes. It always seems to come on right when you’ve finally fallen asleep.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:51 pm

mackdad wrote:
N649DL wrote:
mackdad wrote:
Remember folks new credit card rules state credit card transactions need to be chip and not swipe. By swiping your card the fraud falls on the airline and not the credit company. Cheaper to give programming than retrofit all the ife to read chip than to deal with fraudulent transactions.


Is that really true? Just curious, because my bank card's chip broke and vendors would say to try 3 times and then the swipe function is enabled. Not at all places but some.

Of course the super frustrating thing is having to wait 5-7 days for a new card in the mail since Chase doesn't do temporary debit cards anymore just ATM cards :mad:



Look up EMV compliance law. It’s all there. The magnetic strip is going away completely. Way cheaper to offer IFE free than installing chip readers. That’s the real reason airlines are going to free entertainment. They can spin it as a customers service improvement but it really is a cost saving measure.


Interesting stuff. Actually since DTV was taking nearly all the revenue (by contract, it was signed during the CO days) it could've been on them to install which DTV probably gave up and let the system be comped. UAL would look at a way to eventually terminate the DTV contract and switch over to server streaming, but DTV seems to have thrown them a bone on this one.
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:10 am

N649DL wrote:
Buffalomatt1027 wrote:
How mad is B6 right now with that news?


Maybe it's UAL getting this in line for a merger with B6 lol.

I always thought UAL would offer free internet ahead of free DTV. That's pretty awesome to nail down a deal with them, finally, as late as it is.

Recall many of those installations are from almost 10 years ago so DTV probably threw in the towel to give it for free. They made their money on it already. I wonder if more screens will be installed on other aircraft or if they'll update the UI a bit?

Adding music channels would be cool too. Finally those annoying ads they play to promote it will be gone.


What made b6 cool when they first started was the DTV / tvs in every plane. I think airlines are smart with having passengers use the airline apps on their phone / ipads to use the plane entertainment services. Tv in the monitors add weight to the plane! Using phones / ipads cuts weight and saves money! ( On smaller planes, this makes sense)
 
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Re: UA just announced free DIRECTV

Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:12 am

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:
N649DL wrote:
Buffalomatt1027 wrote:
How mad is B6 right now with that news?


Maybe it's UAL getting this in line for a merger with B6 lol.

I always thought UAL would offer free internet ahead of free DTV. That's pretty awesome to nail down a deal with them, finally, as late as it is.

Recall many of those installations are from almost 10 years ago so DTV probably threw in the towel to give it for free. They made their money on it already. I wonder if more screens will be installed on other aircraft or if they'll update the UI a bit?

Adding music channels would be cool too. Finally those annoying ads they play to promote it will be gone.


What made b6 cool when they first started was the DTV / tvs in every plane. I think airlines are smart with having passengers use the airline apps on their phone / ipads to use the plane entertainment services. Tv in the monitors add weight to the plane! Using phones / ipads cuts weight and saves money! ( On smaller planes, this makes sense)


And airlines are making money hand over fist these days. Think they care all that much about weight? If that were the case UAL would removed those DTV screens / wiring / antennae instead of keeping it. Of all the current systems out there, I'll bet DTV on UAL is probably the heaviest because of how dated it is now.

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