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Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:54 am

I'd imagine SVO-VVO would have to be up there as one of the longest, if not the longest.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:59 am

I think Hawaiian's JFK-HNL route is longer. It's 11hrs sometimes 11:30 depending on routing.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:59 am

JFK-HNL perhaps?
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:02 am

BOS-HNL is the longest in the US. Over 100 miles longer than HNL-JFK. I believe CDG-RUN is the longest domestic flight in the world though at 5809 miles.
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:06 am

CDG-RUN is over 5800 statute miles, pretty sure that is deemed to be the longest.

Interesting that the OP mentions SVO-VVO given that others in Russia (such as SVO-PKC) are longer.
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:10 am

ORY-RUN is considered domestic, as far as I know. 9,337 km vs 6,423 km for SVO-VVO

Edit: Mentioned so far:

From To Distance
HNL BOS 5,095 mi
HNL JFK 4,983 mi
RUN CDG 5,809 mi
RUN ORY 5,802 mi
SVO PKC 4,203 mi
SVO VVO 3,991 mi
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:29 am

No one will ever operate it but EYW-ANC is 4,021 miles and EYW-HNL is 4,725 miles.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:30 am

There's a whole article on Google when you put in Longest Domestic Flights as the search.

https://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/longest-domestic-air-routes/

Looks like that's the Top 11, but it could have changed the last six months since it was written maybe.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:30 am

What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:31 am

TTailedTiger wrote:
No one will ever operate it but EYW-ANC is 4,021 miles and EYW-HNL is 4,725 miles.

Got you beat. STT-GUM at 9455 mi.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:36 am

KICT wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
No one will ever operate it but EYW-ANC is 4,021 miles and EYW-HNL is 4,725 miles.

Got you beat. STT-GUM at 9455 mi.

:) IAH-NKW.... :duck:
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:39 am

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:) IAH-NKW.... :duck:

I mean you might as well go the distance...
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:51 am

[quote="AirIndia":) IAH-NKW.... :duck:[/quote]
DOMESTIC was the question...Diego Garcia is an overseas territory of the United Kingdom, So no.
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:52 am

Hnl to mainland isnt domestic technically it is flag.
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:09 am

AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


Not possible due to short runway.

There is however a weekly RAF air bridge from Mount Pleasant to Ascension and further on to Brize Norton.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:14 am

AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


The Falkland Islands are indeed part of the UK, but are self-governing territory (like Bermuda) and not integral part of Britain (like Jersey) so I am not sure if it will be considered domestic. No direct flight from mainland Britain to the Falklands anyway.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:24 am

Sydney to Sydney via Antartica. Of course this only operates a few times a year.
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:25 am

EL-AL wrote:
AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


The Falkland Islands are indeed part of the UK, but are self-governing territory (like Bermuda) and not integral part of Britain (like Jersey) so I am not sure if it will be considered domestic. No direct flight from mainland Britain to the Falklands anyway.



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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:37 am

seat64k wrote:
ORY-RUN is considered domestic, as far as I know. 9,337 km vs 6,423 km for SVO-VVO

Edit: Mentioned so far:

From To Distance
HNL BOS 5,095 mi
HNL JFK 4,983 mi
RUN CDG 5,809 mi
RUN ORY 5,802 mi
SVO PKC 4,203 mi
SVO VVO 3,991 mi


Don’t forget CDG-DZA 4,990 mi and ORY-CAY 4,401 mi.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:43 am

Um, ORY/CDG-LAX-PPT is technically domestic although with an international stop in LAX (ATN hinted at a non-stop flight though which would for sure be the longest domestic flight)
 
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:33 am

seat64k wrote:

From To Distance
HNL BOS 5,095 mi
HNL JFK 4,983 mi
RUN CDG 5,809 mi
RUN ORY 5,802 mi
SVO PKC 4,203 mi
SVO VVO 3,991 mi


AMS - BON 4,844 mi

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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:52 am

Ellofiend wrote:
Um, ORY/CDG-LAX-PPT is technically domestic although with an international stop in LAX (ATN hinted at a non-stop flight though which would for sure be the longest domestic flight)


You’re right, it’s 9,765 mi via LAX.

Same goes for NOU. Not sure about the routing, though. Must be via Australia, I guess. 10,366 mi (great circle).
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:20 am

EL-AL wrote:
AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


The Falkland Islands are indeed part of the UK, but are self-governing territory (like Bermuda) and not integral part of Britain (like Jersey) so I am not sure if it will be considered domestic. No direct flight from mainland Britain to the Falklands anyway.

Jersey & the other Channel Islands are NOT part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Island. and never have been, they are directly ruled by the Sovereign, who delegates the actual running to the local authorities [Estates?]
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:13 am

steex wrote:
Interesting that the OP mentions SVO-VVO given that others in Russia (such as SVO-PKC) are longer.


No, SVO-VVO is the longest. Russian aircraft do not overfly China on domestic flights, thus they go all the way to KHV before turning South making this marginally longer than SVO-PKC.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:52 am

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Same goes for NOU. Not sure about the routing, though. Must be via Australia, I guess. 10,366 mi (great circle).


No airline operates the entire way between mainland France and NOU. It wasn't a difficult search to find that info.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:27 pm

LHR-HKG in the not too distant past.

Were passengers on this flights treated exactly like they were flying up to EDI or MAN, or were they any extra checks at either end?

I never took the AF flights, and although I know it's a fully domestic flight, is there any kind of additional/extra passport check?

Same question for the HNL flights... Do they use the domestic terminals?..

Thanks..

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Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:35 pm

refer back to the old threads if you are interested:
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:33 pm

Angelovo wrote:
steex wrote:
Interesting that the OP mentions SVO-VVO given that others in Russia (such as SVO-PKC) are longer.


No, SVO-VVO is the longest. Russian aircraft do not overfly China on domestic flights, thus they go all the way to KHV before turning South making this marginally longer than SVO-PKC.


It looks like IrAero are operating or going to operate LED-VVO, so this route will be longer by flight distance.

In the past, there have been some very long flights out of AER and SIP to the Russian Far East - Yakutsk, Khabarovsk and I believe Vladivostok. Yakutia apparently still fly AER-YKS which is still 3,600+ miles, however some of the other routes were well over 4,000 - Transaero flew AER-KHV at 4,287 miles, they and others (including Dalavia IIRC) have also served PKC and VVO on a charter basis which would be 4,848 and 4,373 miles respectively, most likely with the Il-62.
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:07 pm

B8887 wrote:

I never took the AF flights, and although I know it's a fully domestic flight, is there any kind of additional/extra passport check?


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French overseas territories are not part of Schengen so yes, passport check (although you don't need a passport, just an ID + proof that you are legally in France if you're not a European citizen.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:13 pm

PlymSpotter wrote:
Angelovo wrote:
steex wrote:
Interesting that the OP mentions SVO-VVO given that others in Russia (such as SVO-PKC) are longer.


No, SVO-VVO is the longest. Russian aircraft do not overfly China on domestic flights, thus they go all the way to KHV before turning South making this marginally longer than SVO-PKC.


It looks like IrAero are operating or going to operate LED-VVO, so this route will be longer by flight distance.


Haven’t heard that. Last info on the fate of the 3 acquired 772 were that they are out of service after Iraero terminated the contract with a Chinese tour operator. They offer LED-VVO, but via IKT on SSJ100.

http://www.rusaviainsider.com/iraero-ai ... a-project/

PlymSpotter wrote:
In the past, there have been some very long flights out of AER and SIP to the Russian Far East - Yakutsk, Khabarovsk and I believe Vladivostok. Yakutia apparently still fly AER-YKS which is still 3,600+ miles


Yakutia is marketing their Yakutsk flight to Sochi as a 10H15M nonstop on a 737 :-) In reality however it makes a stop at Moscow- Vnukovo.
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Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:13 pm

Angelovo wrote:
steex wrote:
Interesting that the OP mentions SVO-VVO given that others in Russia (such as SVO-PKC) are longer.


No, SVO-VVO is the longest. Russian aircraft do not overfly China on domestic flights, thus they go all the way to KHV before turning South making this marginally longer than SVO-PKC.


Fair enough. That's an atypical standard to apply, though, especially as other routes don't fly their exact great circle routes, either. SVO-KHV-VVO is 4,209 statute miles and SVO-PKC is 4,203 miles - so even if you assume a bit extra to steer safely away from the Chinese border en route to Vladivostok, any deviation that adds a measly 10-20 miles on the route to/from Petro would make it once again the longest route by distance.
 
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a/c dxer wrote:
Hnl to mainland isnt domestic technically it is flag.


Please explain... Hawaii is a US state...

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Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:18 am

B8887 wrote:
LHR-HKG in the not too distant past.

Were passengers on this flights treated exactly like they were flying up to EDI or MAN, or were they any extra checks at either end?

I never took the AF flights, and although I know it's a fully domestic flight, is there any kind of additional/extra passport check?

Same question for the HNL flights... Do they use the domestic terminals?..

Thanks..

Regards..

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Hong Kong was always a jurisdiction separate to the United Kingdom. It was a Crown colony OF the UK but not part of the UK. I imagine LHR-HKG was international because British citizens would have generally needed permission to land in Hong Kong, and British nationals of Hong Kong would have needed permission to land in the UK. Even if both had passports that "look" the same, what mattered is the description inside-British citizen or British Overseas Territories Citizen.
Whereas EDI and MAN are both part of the UK itself, and people from England and Scotland generally have British citizenship. The main difference is British citizens living in Scotland are entitled to vote in Scottish local elections.

CDG-LAX-PPT is complex. Papeete, in French Polynesia, is not part of the Schengen zone, meaning exit passport controls are mandatory for a flight leaving Paris for Tahiti. French Polynesia has its own entry requirements different to that of European France. However, a French person, whether in Paris or Papeete, has the exact same rights to live, work etc. There is only one category of French citizenship.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:29 am

Does the RAF operate a flight directly from the UK mainland to the Falklands by chance?
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:45 am

fallap wrote:
Does the RAF operate a flight directly from the UK mainland to the Falklands by chance?


AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


The Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory, therefore not domestic, as explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories

Three flights operate each week from RAF Brize Norton with a stop on Ascension Island.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:10 pm

BAeRJ100 wrote:
ro1960 wrote:
Same goes for NOU. Not sure about the routing, though. Must be via Australia, I guess. 10,366 mi (great circle).


No airline operates the entire way between mainland France and NOU. It wasn't a difficult search to find that info.


AF used to, but still not a non-stop (The flight stopped at NRT, which is very close to the Great Circle Path b/t PAR and NOU).
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... l-network/

BTW Paris to Noumea is 9008nmi, which is only slightly shorter than LON-SYD (9188nmi), and you wonder why there's no non-stop. Right now the service is provided by a codeshare b/t Aircalin and AF (AF on CDG-NRT or KIX, Aircalin on NRT or KIX-NOU) with about a 3hr layover at either NRT or KIX.

P.S. The topic had been answered many times before anyway. Longest domestic flight = CDG-RUN, while longest domestic flight that doesn't overfly another country = SVO-PKC (If you exclude any large bodies of water than it's SVO-VVO)
 
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F737NG wrote:
fallap wrote:
Does the RAF operate a flight directly from the UK mainland to the Falklands by chance?


AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


The Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory, therefore not domestic, as explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories

Three flights operate each week from RAF Brize Norton with a stop on Ascension Island.


How many times in this thread does that information need to be explained to others before they actually understand!

I don't think that they've read the previous comments made by others in this thread regarding the Falkland Islands and it's relationship with the United Kingdom.
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Cunard wrote:
F737NG wrote:
fallap wrote:
Does the RAF operate a flight directly from the UK mainland to the Falklands by chance?


AirIndia wrote:
What about a flight from London to Falkland islands? was there a flight ever?
LHR-PSY: 7853mi as per gcmap.com


The Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory, therefore not domestic, as explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories

Three flights operate each week from RAF Brize Norton with a stop on Ascension Island.


How many times in this thread does that information need to be explained to others before they actually understand!

I don't think that they've read the previous comments made by others in this thread regarding the Falkland Islands and it's relationship with the United Kingdom.


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