DALMD80
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United Channel 9 Status?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:46 pm

I am new to the forum and was wondering if United still operates Ch9. I know there are some old threads on this but they are pretty darn old. Thanks!
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:57 pm

Haven't flown UA in quite a while so no clue but I wish other airlines would do this.
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:01 pm

I know on 777s that are equipped with AVOD, there's an option under audio (IIRC) call "from the flightdeck", and you can still hear the ATC conversations.

Haven't fly anything else lately, though, so I don't know about, let say, if it's available on a 738 or A320 (definitely not those RJs, though).
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:13 pm

I found this on another site that is similar to a.net from about a year ago

The following aircraft types have "From the Flight Deck"
sUA 777-200ERs
sCO 777-200ERs
sUA 777-300ERs
sUA 777-200As (high density, first class only)
sUA 767-300ERs
sCO 767-400ERs
sUA 757-200 (28J p.s.)

[sUA A320 and A319 aircraft have had it removed. It is not installed on any 737s, 787s, nor sCO 757-200s (16J p.s.) or sCO 757-300s.]
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:24 pm

Cool. Thanks. Any US airlines that have cockpit cameras? I know American used to on the DC-10s.
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:26 pm

Which ended not too long after the Chicago O'Hare accident.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:32 pm

DALMD80 wrote:
Cool. Thanks. Any US airlines that have cockpit cameras? I know American used to on the DC-10s.

I'm certain that if any airline had it on September 10, 2001 none did on September 12, 2001.
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:48 pm

DALMD80 wrote:
Cool. Thanks. Any US airlines that have cockpit cameras? I know American used to on the DC-10s.


Cockpit camera meaning from the vantage point if the cockpit or of the cockpit/pilots?

As far as CH9, I always find the switch in the off position on the 757 PS birds and 767’s. I normally ask the captain if they are good with it being on. Most are fine with it, others seem to prefer it off. I grew up listening to it so I try my best to make it available.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:49 pm

You might want to change the title to Channel 9, some may read it as Chapter 9.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:14 pm

TWA302 wrote:
I found this on another site that is similar to a.net from about a year ago

The following aircraft types have "From the Flight Deck"
sUA 777-200ERs
sCO 777-200ERs
sUA 777-300ERs
sUA 777-200As (high density, first class only)
sUA 767-300ERs
sCO 767-400ERs
sUA 757-200 (28J p.s.)



I was on 6 PS flights this past Dec, it was a 50/50 split on channel 9 being on.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:47 pm

Channel 9 was turned on during my flight from Asia back to the USA last week..
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:01 pm

MO11 wrote:
Which ended not too long after the Chicago O'Hare accident.

Definitely.
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:02 pm

Judge1310 wrote:
Channel 9 was turned on during my flight from Asia back to the USA last week..

Good to hear. Never flown United, but I want to get on a flight with CH.9.
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:15 pm

I heard on twitter that someone found it on a 787 recently, but sadly don't have the link, I know they had previously been removing it, but this was the first sign that they may be reversing that decision. However I have seen any official word of this.

Update: I tracked down the post it doesn't mention the type of aircraft, but you can the image on the screen shows a picture of the 787. https://twitter.com/iBluestone/status/1 ... 0845963265
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:20 pm

It would be great to have a small forward facing HD camera in the cockpit passengers could view.

On Instagram and YouTube you’ll find plenty of pilots who fix hands-free GoPro’s in the cockpit already.

Like Ch9, I imagine pilots would have the ability to turn it on and off in situations where having that view wouldn’t be appropriate.

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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:21 pm

Flew UA from YYZ-SFO as a kid back in 2007 (part of a YYZ-SFO-SIN-BOM itinerary) and listened to Channel 9 all the way. I'm not too sure what the aircraft type was but it could have been an A320. I remember the flight number was UA 1289 due to the number of times it was repeated throughout the flight. As a kid, it got me hooked to aviation and ATC in general. One of the best forms of IFE ever invented (right after watching the sunrise and sunset)!
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:27 pm

Perhaps a UA pilot can chime in with an answer. Where is the Channel 9 feed fed from? I know on the audio control panels in the F/D you have selectors for what you want to hear (VHF 1/2/3, HF 1/2, SATCOM, interphone, pa, etc). Throughout a flight, the crew would be using VHF/HF/interphone/SATCOM (if needed) which means multiple audio sources. My guess is perhaps one of the observer audio control panels is linked to the Channel 9 feed and the crew would keep say VHF 1 and 2 as well as the HF radio feeds selected. That way, pax don't hear conversations between the FAs and pilots as well (on the cabin/flight interphone system).
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:44 pm

Always discussed but I never saw a good relply so far. I flew UA a dozen times last 12 months and could not find ch9 working in any flight.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:46 pm

jworks158 wrote:
I heard on twitter that someone found it on a 787 recently, but sadly don't have the link, I know they had previously been removing it, but this was the first sign that they may be reversing that decision. However I have seen any official word of this.

Update: I tracked down the post it doesn't mention the type of aircraft, but you can the image on the screen shows a picture of the 787. https://twitter.com/iBluestone/status/1 ... 0845963265


Unfortunately they just used a picture of a 787 for effect on the user interface. ( It’s like when CNN uses a photo of the MAX now when they need a header photo— United’s go to airplane in many of their marketing is the 787)
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:06 pm

Are we talking about the communications channel? I flew on a United 767-400 last year and they had it.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:16 pm

I have asked for it to be turned on on several TATL flights and it never has. Can’t say if the FA actually asked the flight deck though.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:33 pm

JAGflyer wrote:
Perhaps a UA pilot can chime in with an answer. Where is the Channel 9 feed fed from? I know on the audio control panels in the F/D you have selectors for what you want to hear (VHF 1/2/3, HF 1/2, SATCOM, interphone, pa, etc). Throughout a flight, the crew would be using VHF/HF/interphone/SATCOM (if needed) which means multiple audio sources. My guess is perhaps one of the observer audio control panels is linked to the Channel 9 feed and the crew would keep say VHF 1 and 2 as well as the HF radio feeds selected. That way, pax don't hear conversations between the FAs and pilots as well (on the cabin/flight interphone system).


You are correct. The feed comes from the 1st observers seat audio panel.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:38 pm

Bricktop wrote:
I have asked for it to be turned on on several TATL flights and it never has. Can’t say if the FA actually asked the flight deck though.


With the increasing use of CPDLC a lot of the Pilot/Controller communication is done through that rather than over the radio. Once you are in Moncton's airspace East bound or pretty much anywhere in Europe West bound the frequency changes and a lot of other stuff is done through uplinks and downlinks from the FMC. Once over the mid Atlantic the only VHF communication is the air to air frequency, and a lot of that is complaints about the turbulence, who won what game and why the aircraft in front of you forgot to turn the chemtrails off when they coasted out.
 
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Re: United Ch9?

Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:25 pm

rbavfan wrote:
This question has been asked on Multiple threads over the last 6 years. We do not need another one. It's been beat to death and is starting to be the next "bring back the 757" title holder. Mods please move this to one of the other post.

Ok. Sure, it's been asked a ton. BUT, I've not been able to find a RECENT thread. Things like this CHANGE, and I wanted UP-TO-DATE information.
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Re: United Ch9?

Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:31 pm

Bricktop wrote:
I have asked for it to be turned on on several TATL flights and it never has. Can’t say if the FA actually asked the flight deck though.

Instant solution- ask the Captain! In my experience, the Captain or FO is usually waiting near the cockpit door and greeting pax. Not sure if this is the case on United, but if you don't make it to the gate INSANELY late, just before the door closes, when the crew is running the before start checklists, the crew is usually there (on every flight I've been on, at least.)
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Re: United Ch9?

Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:53 pm

Jongum wrote:
With the increasing use of CPDLC a lot of the Pilot/Controller communication is done through that rather than over the radio. Once you are in Moncton's airspace East bound or pretty much anywhere in Europe West bound the frequency changes and a lot of other stuff is done through uplinks and downlinks from the FMC.

And soon to be in the US. Indy and Kansas City Centers already have CPDLC, and it'll be rolling out to the rest of the centers over the next year or so. As more capability is added, Channel 9 will become increasingly quiet outside of terminal areas.

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