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MIflyer12 wrote:Link? Survey methodology and participant demographics?
crescent wrote:MIflyer12 wrote:Link? Survey methodology and participant demographics?
It was done by yougov with 1756 North American and European fliers. It's not a public poll; there won't be a link. You would need access to Barclays investment research.
crescent wrote:Barclays is out with a research note downgrading Boeing. They cite a survey with these results:
Willingness to fly on MAX After Grounding is Lifted:
19% Immediately
20% After a Few Months
23% After a Year or More
21% Never
17% Don't Know.
I have a hard time believing this. I think the results would be far different if the survey done immediately after a lifting.
deltaffindfw wrote:And 90% of those people also book flights based on price and schedule and not on the type of plane...
kalvado wrote:If popular booking engines take notice, things will be even more interesting.
kalvado wrote:If company travel departments take notice, they do have the knowledge to follow through. That is high paying business traffic.
If popular booking engines take notice, things will be even more interesting.
bgm wrote:And once again many American posters on this board just gloss over the issue. Excuses abound, it'll all be fine etc etc.
People often compare this to other air disasters where the passengers forget over time. However, most of those were before the 24/7 news, social media etc. I've heard many people, who know nothing about aviation say that "the MAX is a death trap", "no way I'm going on a 737 MAX" etc etc.
Your pathetic attempt to gloss over peoples' perceptions of this is exactly the same as Boeing's tone-deafness in admitting they screwed up. Reality is going to come and bite you in the ass. Hard.
morrisond wrote:I was on an Westjet 737-800 just prior to the Grounding. The Emergency Procedure Card in the Seat back said 737-800/MAX
They will just change the Emergency procedures to say Boeing 737-8 instead of MAX - that will fool 99% of People.
I would be surprised if they aren't reprinting them now.
boeingguy1 wrote:crescent wrote:Barclays is out with a research note downgrading Boeing. They cite a survey with these results:
Willingness to fly on MAX After Grounding is Lifted:
19% Immediately
20% After a Few Months
23% After a Year or More
21% Never
17% Don't Know.
I have a hard time believing this. I think the results would be far different if the survey done immediately after a lifting.
What they didn't follow up with is how many of those same people can tell an A320 from a 737, let alone a 737-800 from a 737 Max 8.
bgm wrote:Your pathetic attempt to gloss over peoples' perceptions of this is exactly the same as Boeing's tone-deafness in admitting they screwed up. Reality is going to come and bite you in the ass. Hard.
deltaffindfw wrote:And 90% of those people also book flights based on price and schedule and not on the type of plane...
bgm wrote:And once again many American posters on this board just gloss over the issue. Excuses abound, it'll all be fine etc etc.
People often compare this to other air disasters where the passengers forget over time. However, most of those were before the 24/7 news, social media etc. I've heard many people, who know nothing about aviation say that "the MAX is a death trap", "no way I'm going on a 737 MAX" etc etc.
Your pathetic attempt to gloss over peoples' perceptions of this is exactly the same as Boeing's tone-deafness in admitting they screwed up. Reality is going to come and bite you in the ass. Hard.
IWMBH wrote:“Will never fly the MAX again”
*sees that tickets on the MAX are 10% cheaper*
“Aah the MAX is fine, Boeing knows what it’s doing”
william wrote:If this was true, SWA would be in trouble. Really people, who can tell the difference of a 737-800 vs a 737-8 MAX at the gate?
bgm wrote:And once again many American posters on this board just gloss over the issue. Excuses abound, it'll all be fine etc etc.
People often compare this to other air disasters where the passengers forget over time. However, most of those were before the 24/7 news, social media etc. I've heard many people, who know nothing about aviation say that "the MAX is a death trap", "no way I'm going on a 737 MAX" etc etc.
Your pathetic attempt to gloss over peoples' perceptions of this is exactly the same as Boeing's tone-deafness in admitting they screwed up. Reality is going to come and bite you in the ass. Hard.
crescent wrote:Barclays is out with a research note downgrading Boeing. They cite a survey with these results:
Willingness to fly on MAX After Grounding is Lifted:
19% Immediately
20% After a Few Months
23% After a Year or More
21% Never
17% Don't Know.
I have a hard time believing this. I think the results would be far different if the survey done immediately after a lifting.
IWMBH wrote:“Will never fly the MAX again”
*sees that tickets on the MAX are 10% cheaper*
“Aah the MAX is fine, Boeing knows what it’s doing”
bgm wrote:And once again many American posters on this board just gloss over the issue. Excuses abound, it'll all be fine etc etc.
People often compare this to other air disasters where the passengers forget over time. However, most of those were before the 24/7 news, social media etc. I've heard many people, who know nothing about aviation say that "the MAX is a death trap", "no way I'm going on a 737 MAX" etc etc.
Your pathetic attempt to gloss over peoples' perceptions of this is exactly the same as Boeing's tone-deafness in admitting they screwed up. Reality is going to come and bite you in the ass. Hard.
Elementalism wrote:
The 24 hour news cycle is exactly why people will move on. Once the MAX starts flying again and is safe. The 24 hour news cycle moves onto the next crisis and people do as well.
Babyshark wrote:Elementalism wrote:
The 24 hour news cycle is exactly why people will move on. Once the MAX starts flying again and is safe. The 24 hour news cycle moves onto the next crisis and people do as well.
So some people will... but I argue your frequent fliers and the HVCs will not have a short term memory about it.
Babyshark wrote:crescent wrote:Barclays is out with a research note downgrading Boeing. They cite a survey with these results:
Willingness to fly on MAX After Grounding is Lifted:
19% Immediately
20% After a Few Months
23% After a Year or More
21% Never
17% Don't Know.
I have a hard time believing this. I think the results would be far different if the survey done immediately after a lifting.
Right after the grounding is lifted I would think people have the right to say, so the government and Boeing says this is safe... but didn't they say it was safe the first time and it crashed?
I'd love to see, what would convince you to fly on the Max again? FAA approval and Boeing saying it's safe would only carry weight in Seattle and airliners.net I bet.
william wrote:If this was true, SWA would be in trouble.
IWMBH wrote:“Will never fly the MAX again”
*sees that tickets on the MAX are 10% cheaper*
“Aah the MAX is fine, Boeing knows what it’s doing”
mrbots wrote:Even websites that say "Equipment: XXXX" don't say "Max" they'll say "73M" or "3M8" or similar
BerenErchamion wrote:mrbots wrote:Even websites that say "Equipment: XXXX" don't say "Max" they'll say "73M" or "3M8" or similar
I was fairly certain that's not true at all, so I did some searches with several airlines and city pairs that I fly semi-regularly to be sure and sure enough, that's not true at all.
I can provide screenshots if you like.
crescent wrote:Barclays is out with a research note downgrading Boeing. They cite a survey with these results:
Willingness to fly on MAX After Grounding is Lifted:
19% Immediately
20% After a Few Months
23% After a Year or More
21% Never
17% Don't Know.
I have a hard time believing this. I think the results would be far different if the survey done immediately after a lifting.