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Which routes do BA have their 77W on?

Sun May 19, 2019 10:51 pm

Which routes do BA have their 77W on!? The 777-300ER has the most cargo capacity of any wide-body in existence. I read on here that BA deploys the 77W on high yield long haul markets where the cargo capacity is needed (and the 77W can do MUCH more than the A380 which is something EK has said).
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Sun May 19, 2019 11:03 pm

Google G-STBA,B,C...etc and FR24 should show you where they've been flying to in the last week.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Sun May 19, 2019 11:07 pm

As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Sun May 19, 2019 11:25 pm

speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


Phoenix and I believe one of the Texas Cities (can’t remember if it’s DFW, IAH or AUS) will be getting service in the future.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Sun May 19, 2019 11:36 pm

Visit planespotters.net or airfleets.net and look up the registrations of the aircraft in question. Then as bhxalex says, have a look through flightradar24.com
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 am

A lot of people seem to be interested in BA's 77W destinations. This topic has come up quite a few times over the past year or so.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 2:53 am

speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


And just adding on to this:
BA247/246 LHR-GRU
BA039/038 LHR-PEK
BA027/028 LHR-HKG
BA165/164 LHR-TLV
BA007/008 LHR-HND
BA015/016 LHR-SIN-SYD
BA273/272 LHR-SAN

77W also operates a few flights a week on BA179/182 LHR-JFK.

But yes, otherwise BA shift around their 744, 388, 77W, and 772 around depending on season.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 3:02 am

speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


Tel Aviv? That seems a bit odd. Eurovision-related? Or additional cargo lift? (I say this knowing that Swiss and Turkish also fly B77Ws to TLV.)
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 3:20 am

A few months ago they were flying to AUS.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 3:25 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


Tel Aviv? That seems a bit odd. Eurovision-related? Or additional cargo lift? (I say this knowing that Swiss and Turkish also fly B77Ws to TLV.)

No its scheduled.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 3:30 am

aemoreira1981, there is A LOT of high yield freight out of TLV. Some of it is agricultural exports, others high tech (Intel has a fab in Israel) and mostly generic drugs (Teva, the worlds 3rd largest generic manufacturer is Israeli). BA also connects A LOT of freight to its vast Americas network.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 5:11 am

zakuivcustom wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


And just adding on to this:
BA247/246 LHR-GRU
BA039/038 LHR-PEK
BA027/028 LHR-HKG
BA165/164 LHR-TLV
BA007/008 LHR-HND
BA015/016 LHR-SIN-SYD
BA273/272 LHR-SAN


fraspotter wrote:
A few months ago they were flying to AUS.


At least for the past couple of years, BA has swapped a/c to SAN and AUS -- SAN getting the 747 in the winter and the 77W in the summer; AUS gets the 77W in the winter and the 747 in the summer. I'm not sure exactly the reasoning or rationale -- be it cargo, pax traffic, a/c availability, ops or ??? -- but both U.S. cities seem to be doing very well for Speedbird.

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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 5:36 am

All routes flown in the past 30 days can be seen under B777-300ER routes here: http://thebasource.com/aircraft/b777-300er/
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 7:29 am

At the end of last year I flew on the 77W from LHR to MAD.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 8:41 am

I was on one of those last year from LHR to GRU and I actually quite like these B777-300 with 3-3-3 economy seat layout. Even most airlines such as EK, EY, etc are having 3-4-3.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 9:17 am

About every other time (3 months or so) I fly to LHR from SEA it's a 77W (vs 744.)
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 1:58 pm

Arion640 wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


Phoenix and I believe one of the Texas Cities (can’t remember if it’s DFW, IAH or AUS) will be getting service in the future.


No Phoenix gets the 747 and dfw gets the 772 soon to be the 747,and Austin will be getting the 77W soon
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on?

Mon May 20, 2019 2:02 pm

BOS gets it on an ad-hoc basis, and I think it's one of the few cities in the BA network that gets ALL the long haul aircraft they currently fly: 788, 789, 777, 777ER, 77W, 744, A380. It's basically a 'Box of Chocolates' cities, as Forest Gump might refer to it as.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 2:26 pm

Planes4you wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


Phoenix and I believe one of the Texas Cities (can’t remember if it’s DFW, IAH or AUS) will be getting service in the future.


No Phoenix gets the 747 and dfw gets the 772 soon to be the 747,and Austin will be getting the 77W soon


PHX is switching to 77W in the near future.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 2:49 pm

Arion640 wrote:
Planes4you wrote:
Arion640 wrote:

Phoenix and I believe one of the Texas Cities (can’t remember if it’s DFW, IAH or AUS) will be getting service in the future.


No Phoenix gets the 747 and dfw gets the 772 soon to be the 747,and Austin will be getting the 77W soon


PHX is switching to 77W in the near future.


Austin will switch to the 772 starting in October after the summer season ends.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on?

Mon May 20, 2019 2:53 pm

They do BOM through most of the year. Occasionally switching between BA138/139 and BA198/199.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 2:55 pm

airboss787 wrote:
A lot of people seem to be interested in BA's 77W destinations. This topic has come up quite a few times over the past year or so.


Likely because BA makes it difficult to find the 77W routes in their timetables. They designate 777 regardless of the variant. I've found that I need to do a dummy booking in Business Class and get all the way through to seat selection before it's possible to tell whether a given route is a 772 or 77W.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 4:38 pm

FSDan wrote:
airboss787 wrote:
A lot of people seem to be interested in BA's 77W destinations. This topic has come up quite a few times over the past year or so.


Likely because BA makes it difficult to find the 77W routes in their timetables.


That may be true but it doesn't negate the four ways shown upthread that one can use to answer the 'Where do the XXX's of carrier XX fly?' question. Forum participants ought to be building a basic skill set to answer a few of the common questions.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 5:00 pm

AndrewJM70 wrote:
At the end of last year I flew on the 77W from LHR to MAD.

Seems BA use just about every long haul aircraft they have (except the A380)on that route.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on!?

Mon May 20, 2019 5:19 pm

SANFan wrote:
zakuivcustom wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
As of today: Tokyo Haneda, Singapore/Sidney, Hong Kong, Beijing, JFK, TLV, Sao Paulo, and San Diego. Aircraft do move around a lot, and in the winter San Diego is a 747


And just adding on to this:
BA247/246 LHR-GRU
BA039/038 LHR-PEK
BA027/028 LHR-HKG
BA165/164 LHR-TLV
BA007/008 LHR-HND
BA015/016 LHR-SIN-SYD
BA273/272 LHR-SAN


fraspotter wrote:
A few months ago they were flying to AUS.


At least for the past couple of years, BA has swapped a/c to SAN and AUS -- SAN getting the 747 in the winter and the 77W in the summer; AUS gets the 77W in the winter and the 747 in the summer. I'm not sure exactly the reasoning or rationale -- be it cargo, pax traffic, a/c availability, ops or ??? -- but both U.S. cities seem to be doing very well for Speedbird.

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It's interesting because the 747 and 77W sent to AUS and SAN share the same pax capacity (299 max), but both destinations toggle between the two aircraft during opposite seasons. The only difference is that the 77W carries slightly more cargo capacity (4 AKE/9 PAG compared to the 747 being 4 AKE/6PAG)

So, it can be assumed that SAN might see more cargo in the summer while AUS seeing a spike in the winter. This is a great example of how cargo can manipulate the equipment used on routes.
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on?

Mon May 20, 2019 6:01 pm

It's not just cargo. B747 and B77W have different configurations and the profit can be maximised by adjusting J capacity depending on the season. It is surprising though that BA keeps B747 on the route given its fuel burn.
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on?

Tue May 21, 2019 1:48 am

lhrsfosyd91 wrote:
It's not just cargo. B747 and B77W have different configurations and the profit can be maximised by adjusting J capacity depending on the season. It is surprising though that BA keeps B747 on the route given its fuel burn.

Depends on which 744 config you are talking about. The low density only has four less J seats than the 77W and twice the number of economy seats.The high density however is a different story, and I guess that the increased J revenue makes up for the higher fuel burn
 
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Re: Which routes do BA have their 77W on?

Tue May 21, 2019 2:07 am

speedbird52 wrote:
lhrsfosyd91 wrote:
It's not just cargo. B747 and B77W have different configurations and the profit can be maximised by adjusting J capacity depending on the season. It is surprising though that BA keeps B747 on the route given its fuel burn.

Depends on which 744 config you are talking about. The low density only has four less J seats than the 77W and twice the number of economy seats.The high density however is a different story, and I guess that the increased J revenue makes up for the higher fuel burn

Through history AUS has seen most action from the 275-seat 747, and a few spot searches have shown the same for SAN.
 
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