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East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue May 21, 2019 5:26 am

G'day A.net,

I'll be flying one-way from DC to (most probably) London in the days after Christmas. Looking at my options this far out, it already seems that TAP via LIS and the direct UA flights dominate the cheapest and most direct options. However, I'd love to take this chance to catch something more unusual and/or vintage if possible.


BA and their 747s would be great, but one-way fares are steep even between US and mainland Europe city pairs. LH fly their A343 into a few Eastern US hubs but again, I'm yet to find a city pairing that prices competitively. I'm not tied to any particular airline or alliance, just hoping for something more interesting to wrap up a very generic year of flying so far. Have you seen or do you know of any routings that could tick these boxes?


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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue May 21, 2019 6:35 am

Have you checked the fares for a round trip and then just skipping the return part of the trip? You still get a nonstop with BA to LHR with a random return date in January for about $550. Though looks like they don't fly any 747s to WAS at the end of December, it is a mix of A380 and 787. Buying a round trip with the intention of not using the return is an easy way to save on the fare. The return part can even be really random by using the multi city tool. For instance you can get IAD-LHR non stop on BA on any date between DEC26-30 and then the return as OSL-NYC on JAN29 (random date) for about $440. You can probably get it even lower, you just need to play around with dates/routes.

If you know the day you want depart we can try to help you find a better deal or a more interesting route.
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue May 21, 2019 6:45 am

Just played around with some dates and found an even cheaper fare with BA.

IAD-LHR nonstop any day DEC26-30
CDG-JFK on the AA flight on JAN29

Total $395 booked via Iberia's website. You can even mix and match fare classes, for instance a fare that includes a bag on the outbound and basic economy on the return you won't use.
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue May 21, 2019 10:07 am

Certainly ticking the interesting box, but also including some more connections, would be to fly up to Canada, grab a Transat 310 to Paris or Amsterdam and then hop over to LON. Might also cost a bit more, but who knows, maybe there's a deal out there waiting for you
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue May 21, 2019 1:50 pm

Out of IAD specifically, there's not a lot terribly interesting or unusual in terms of aircraft type on TATL. SK sends an A343 once in a blue moon on CPH, and if you are into sub-types, FI sends the somewhat rare 753 reasonably often and LH often goes 748 on one of the FRA turns. Other than that, it's the usual 777/330/787 grouping, with a smattering of 757/380/767 offerings.

There's not much interesting on the nonstop IAD-LHRs specifically. One of the UA flights is a 757, but that's about it in terms of unusual.
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue May 21, 2019 4:40 pm

The most interesting TATL aircraft, but also perhaps the hardest to get to, is the Cubana IL-96-300. They use it on flights from Havana to Madrid and Paris Orly. However getting from Washington to Havana would be a challenge, it's not easy for an American citizen to get access to Cuba even if it's just for a transfer.

You wouldn't have to worry about the European end of the line, there are plenty of flights to London from both Madrid and Paris Orly. Therefor it doesn't really matter much which you choose.
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Wed May 22, 2019 7:13 am

B747forever wrote:
Though looks like they don't fly any 747s to WAS at the end of December, it is a mix of A380 and 787. Buying a round trip with the intention of not using the return is an easy way to save on the fare.

Unfortunately it does appear the BA 747 will not be on the IAD run around this time. As for unused return legs, would a no-show fee be something to worry about when doing this?

OlafW wrote:
Certainly ticking the interesting box, but also including some more connections, would be to fly up to Canada, grab a Transat 310 to Paris or Amsterdam and then hop over to LON.

Would love one more ride on the A310. Can't figure out where or if they're sending them TATL during the winter months however. Can only see the A330 and A321N.

PatrickZ80 wrote:
The most interesting TATL aircraft, but also perhaps the hardest to get to, is the Cubana IL-96-300. They use it on flights from Havana to Madrid and Paris Orly. However getting from Washington to Havana would be a challenge, it's not easy for an American citizen to get access to Cuba even if it's just for a transfer.

This would be amazing. Fares to MAD seem reasonable too at under $400. And as a Brit, I should be able to side-step most of the bureaucracy. Any idea how prone their TATL flights are to cancellations/equipment changes?
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Wed May 22, 2019 7:32 am

LostLuggage wrote:
Any idea how prone their TATL flights are to cancellations/equipment changes?


Cancellations I haven't heard of, more likely to be delayed or aircraft changed. Delays as far as I know and witnessed may easily be 4+ hours, aircraft change may get you the infamous Plus Ultra 343, or something from HiFly or EuroAtlantic.
Actually, I couldn't find any Paris flights on the homepage, so no idea if they are still running.
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Fri May 24, 2019 7:01 am

OlafW wrote:
LostLuggage wrote:
Any idea how prone their TATL flights are to cancellations/equipment changes?


Cancellations I haven't heard of, more likely to be delayed or aircraft changed. Delays as far as I know and witnessed may easily be 4+ hours, aircraft change may get you the infamous Plus Ultra 343, or something from HiFly or EuroAtlantic.
Actually, I couldn't find any Paris flights on the homepage, so no idea if they are still running.


Looks like MAD is their only regular TATL service nowadays. Still, would be gut-wrenching to plan a trip to Cuba only to end up on a 767 or A330!

Thanks all for the advice, A.net does it again.
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Fri May 24, 2019 6:07 pm

Ok, bear with me on this. You did ask for an "interesting way"

DEC 26. 07:55 (Eastern) AA2304 A321. DCA-ORD. Arrive 08:51 (Central)
DEC 26. 10:30 (Central). JAL009. 777-3. ORD-NRT. Arrive 15:00 (Dec 27 - Japan).
DEC 27. 21:40 (Japan). MH71. A350-9. NRT-KUL. Arrive 04:35 (Dec 28 - Malaysia)
DEC 28. 09:00 (Malaysia). MH4. A350-9. KUL-LHR. Arrive 15:25 (GMT)

Ticket comes to a nice round $1,000. Two separate tickets: DCA-NRT ($464) then NRT to LHR ($536)

Just shy of 38 hours in the air. Balk at that, and you have to ask whether this forum is for you.

The planes themselves may not be too interesting (aside from the relatively new 350's), but taking the long way round for $1,000 is something I'd happily do.

I often pay close to double that to go the short way from Denver to Europe.
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Fri May 24, 2019 6:10 pm

Icelandair.
Emirates (Jfk-msp)
Air India (Ewr-Lhr)
Does Ethiopian still fly from the east coast to Dublin?
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Fri May 24, 2019 8:14 pm

zrs70 wrote:
Icelandair.
Emirates (Jfk-msp)
Air India (Ewr-Lhr)
Does Ethiopian still fly from the east coast to Dublin?


Ethiopian's flights from the east coast to Addis are non-stop.

Flights from Ethiopia to the U.S. and Canada have a refueling stop at Dublin, but it's only a refueling stop. There are no 5th freedom rights.
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Fri May 24, 2019 9:09 pm

If the 737 MAX's get back in the air you could fly to LHR via YHZ or YYT on AC. If you had a time machine to go back a year or two you could do YYT-LHR in an A319. If you were doing it in the summer you could go on WS from YHZ to LGW, GLA, or DUB on a 737-700. Either way you'd get that elusive narrowbody transatlantic experience.
 
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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:33 am

There is no longer Cubana flights to Paris Orly. We have Air Caraibes only.

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Re: East Coast to UK - most interesting way?

Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:04 pm

smallmj wrote:
If the 737 MAX's get back in the air you could fly to LHR via YHZ or YYT on AC. If you had a time machine to go back a year or two you could do YYT-LHR in an A319. If you were doing it in the summer you could go on WS from YHZ to LGW, GLA, or DUB on a 737-700. Either way you'd get that elusive narrowbody transatlantic experience.


If all he wanted was narrowbody transatlantic, he has plenty of options considering he's starting from IAD. There are at least 3 carriers (UA, EI (operated by ASL), FI) that operate 757s transatlantic there in the time of year he's looking.

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