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AtomicGarden
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DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 1:25 am

Hello folks,

last week I had a domestic-to-international flight on AA with a connection at DFW. We arrived at Terminal A and then had to depart from D. The connection was quite smooth with Skytrain (loved it, by the way) but I can't stop thinking - we never went thru immigration control. Is it normal @DFW? will we run into trouble with the authorities next time we try to go to the USA? connecting there was so much easier than I expected, but maybe too easy... at least, when we arrived home, automatic passport control for nationals had such a long queue that we went with the human element, which means I have a stamp on my passport confirming at least I somehow left the USA and didn't overstay.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 1:26 am

No, you never do.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 2:37 am

As above, the US does not have any formal exit immigration control.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 5:45 am

You don't go through immigration when you leave the USA, only when you enter the USA. That's why international terminals at US airports have arrivals and departures strictly separated.

When you go the other way you will find immigration control at this airport.
 
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 5:49 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
When you go the other way you will find immigration control at this airport.

And your connection that looked easy gets a tad worrisome
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 9:13 am

AtomicGarden wrote:

which means I have a stamp on my passport confirming at least I somehow left the USA and didn't overstay.


As said, there are no inmigration controls on US departures,

Don't worry, US authorities know you haven't overstayed as CBP tracks actual departure from airline passenger lists.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 10:59 am

Not just passenger lists these days. At some airports (I’ve had this at DTW), Immigration used facial recognition to identify passengers as they board flights to leave the country. If you are a U.S. citizen, the government claims your image will be deleted within 24 hours. If you are a foreign national, the image is retained and your exit logged.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 9:27 pm

Well, this is news to me. I always remembered going thru immigration control when departing too. But I must be confused. I do know that clearing customs is basically non existant compared to others. Thanks so much for the replies, now I feel much better.

As a side note, it's interesting how countries behave differently. Some 5 years ago I entereded the EU at FCO and the passport control officer was simply letting us pas thru him with grumpy face. Then when I left the EU at MAD, the immigrations agent was angry at me because I didn't have the entrance on record!

coolian2 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
When you go the other way you will find immigration control at this airport.

And your connection that looked easy gets a tad worrisome


As a matter of fact, we lost our first connection because of bad weather at DFW (diversion to IAH which kept us there for 10 hours) and on the way back, flight delayed for 1h30m after the evacuation of the Dalla's ATC last week.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Wed May 22, 2019 9:36 pm

AtomicGarden wrote:
Well, this is news to me. I always remembered going thru immigration control when departing too. But I must be confused. I do know that clearing customs is basically non existant compared to others. Thanks so much for the replies, now I feel much better.


You might have remembered having your passport checked by the airline before leaving the US, but that is to make sure you have some chance of being admitted to the destination country. If you are refused admission at the destination the airline has to fly you back. Also TSA might have looked at your passport as a form of ID to verify that you have authorized access to the airport itself. If you use another form of photo ID, or if you are doing a domestic connection inside the US to your international flight, there is no TSA passport check at the departing airport.
 
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Thu May 23, 2019 12:07 am

aklrno wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
Well, this is news to me. I always remembered going thru immigration control when departing too. But I must be confused. I do know that clearing customs is basically non existant compared to others. Thanks so much for the replies, now I feel much better.


You might have remembered having your passport checked by the airline before leaving the US, but that is to make sure you have some chance of being admitted to the destination country. If you are refused admission at the destination the airline has to fly you back. Also TSA might have looked at your passport as a form of ID to verify that you have authorized access to the airport itself. If you use another form of photo ID, or if you are doing a domestic connection inside the US to your international flight, there is no TSA passport check at the departing airport.


That too. I think the TSA checks the passport on some reader, but my memory is sketchy, after all hassle it means going thru controls. Tks.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Sun May 26, 2019 2:39 pm

How do they know you leave if you cross the border by road and therefore no airline database? I imagine there’s departure immigration in such a case?

AtomicGarden wrote:
Well, this is news to me. I always remembered going thru immigration control when departing too. But I must be confused. I do know that clearing customs is basically non existant compared to others. Thanks so much for the replies, now I feel much better.

As a side note, it's interesting how countries behave differently. Some 5 years ago I entereded the EU at FCO and the passport control officer was simply letting us pas thru him with grumpy face. Then when I left the EU at MAD, the immigrations agent was angry at me because I didn't have the entrance on record!

coolian2 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
When you go the other way you will find immigration control at this airport.

And your connection that looked easy gets a tad worrisome


As a matter of fact, we lost our first connection because of bad weather at DFW (diversion to IAH which kept us there for 10 hours) and on the way back, flight delayed for 1h30m after the evacuation of the Dalla's ATC last week.


Yes I’ve heard of some of the Southern European countries sometimes getting slack on passport stamps when entering or leaving the shengen zone. It’s important you get it though, as happened to you, there could be issues on departure that you didn’t overstay. I’ll admit I got a bit worried recently when leaving ATH that I didn’t come across departure immigration until I was practically standing in front of my gate way out in the satélite terminal. There’s no way I’d let an agent wave me straight in, no matter how grumpy they are I’m not moving forward until I get the stamp.
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Re: DFW - no immigrations control?

Mon May 27, 2019 10:48 am

a320fan wrote:
How do they know you leave if you cross the border by road and therefore no airline database? I imagine there’s departure immigration in such a case?



No departure inmigation. I've done it and didn't have issues when I got back to the US.

Going through Peace Arch a Canadian agent checks you into Canada, I assume they provide data to US CBP.
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