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Largest non-hub AA stations?

Fri May 31, 2019 2:40 am

Does anyone have a list of daily departures from non hub AA stations? I would assume STL,BNA, RDU, and MCO would be in the 40-50 daily departures range. Any insight to this?
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Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

Fri May 31, 2019 2:59 am

Hmm.. I'd probably have to guess and say JFK maybe? :stirthepot: :duck:

Might want to check this thread: it has hubs sized as well as outstations further down in the thread comments: viewtopic.php?t=1420609
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 3:02 am

ethernal wrote:
Hmm.. I'd probably have to guess and say JFK maybe? :stirthepot: :duck:

Might want to check this thread: it has hubs sized as well as outstations further down in the thread comments: viewtopic.php?t=1420609


From that thread it looks like the largest non-hub is BOS.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 3:25 am

BOS is definitely the biggest. MCO, PIT, and RDU are up there too.

IND & CMH are also decent sized operations for them. Definitely not the largest, but it is worth noting that AA does serve all of their hub cities, including JFK, from both IND and CMH.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 3:48 am

BOS,SFO,LAS,MCO
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Fri May 31, 2019 3:49 am

I think an important distinction in this question, is if you're looking for frequency or capacity?? Stations like the above-named IND and CMH do have a lot of frequency, but a lot of those flights are CR7's and E75's. On the flip-side of this, stations like DEN have 30+ daily flights and almost entirely on mainline.
 
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Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

Fri May 31, 2019 4:07 am

I think BNA is at 64 daily departures.
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Fri May 31, 2019 4:19 am

southwest1675 wrote:
I think BNA is at 64 daily departures.


Surprisingly not one of them is to PHX.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 4:40 am

LHR if you want to branch out to seats and non-domestic.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 4:45 am

southwest1675 wrote:
I think BNA is at 64 daily departures.


No way BNA is 64, I don't think it is over 50 daily departures this summer

Overall, the largest non-hub stations are SFO, MCO, BOS, LAS, ATL, then some combination of PIT, RDU, STL, BNA, e.t.c
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Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

Fri May 31, 2019 5:36 am

Looking at tomorrow, Friday 5/31. Fridays are typically a peak operation day of the week.

Departures:

MCO - 52 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 52
LAS - 41 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 41
SFO - 41 Mainline / 5 Regional ... 46
BOS - 83 Mainline / 6 Regional ... 89 .... quite a drop in regional from the US days
RDU - 35 Mainline / 14 Regional ... 50 .... regional fluctuates quite a bit here, especially with E190's being Mainline
BNA - 22 Mainline / 25 Regional ... 47 .... RDU and BNA tend to be pretty close in operation size
PIT - 21 Mainline / 21 Regional ... 42 .... wow...
STL - 22 Mainline / 16 Regional ... 38 .... ...ditto
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Fri May 31, 2019 6:11 am

JDAirCEO wrote:
Looking at tomorrow, Friday 5/31. Fridays are typically a peak operation day of the week.

Departures:

MCO - 52 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 52
LAS - 41 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 41
SFO - 41 Mainline / 5 Regional ... 46
BOS - 83 Mainline / 6 Regional ... 89 .... quite a drop in regional from the US days
RDU - 35 Mainline / 14 Regional ... 50 .... regional fluctuates quite a bit here, especially with E190's being Mainline
BNA - 22 Mainline / 25 Regional ... 47 .... RDU and BNA tend to be pretty close in operation size
PIT - 21 Mainline / 21 Regional ... 42 .... wow...
STL - 22 Mainline / 16 Regional ... 38 .... ...ditto


I don't have an exact mainline / regional split but looking under the same metric you have:

IND - 44 departures - looks like 13 mainline and the rest regional.
AUS - 36 departures
DEN - 33 departures

Interesting in terms of presence at all of these places.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 7:01 am

What is the definition of a ‘hub’ and ‘focus city’? I understood hub meant it was having aircraft and crew based in a city. But SFO has AA crew based there and it’s not a hub.

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Fri May 31, 2019 11:22 am

Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires have tons of 777 and some 787, not a huge number of frequencies but many seats huge revenue stations.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 11:42 am

vhtje wrote:
What is the definition of a ‘hub’ and ‘focus city’? I understood hub meant it was having aircraft and crew based in a city. But SFO has AA crew based there and it’s not a hub.

That's a good question. I always thought that a hub has a majority of connecting passengers, while a focus city is majority O&D, with both providing nonstops to cities that are neither hubs nor FC's. Just my guess though.
 
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Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

Fri May 31, 2019 11:42 am

vhtje wrote:
What is the definition of a ‘hub’ and ‘focus city’? I understood hub meant it was having aircraft and crew based in a city. But SFO has AA crew based there and it’s not a hub.

Do note I am not American before you flame me for asking what might be an obvious question!


Delta also has crew based at ORD, even though it's not considered a hub or focus city. A focus city, from my understanding, "focuses" more on high demand origin/destination pairs rather than connecting traffic between it. Even though it may connect traffic through it. For example even though DL connects traffic through CVG it focus a lot more on high demand cities rather than ATL which serves to connect even the smallest demand cities to the rest of the network. I would not consider SFO a focus city for AA, I would consider it a large station.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 11:44 am

Sydscott wrote:
JDAirCEO wrote:
Looking at tomorrow, Friday 5/31. Fridays are typically a peak operation day of the week.

Departures:

MCO - 52 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 52
LAS - 41 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 41
SFO - 41 Mainline / 5 Regional ... 46
BOS - 83 Mainline / 6 Regional ... 89 .... quite a drop in regional from the US days
RDU - 35 Mainline / 14 Regional ... 50 .... regional fluctuates quite a bit here, especially with E190's being Mainline
BNA - 22 Mainline / 25 Regional ... 47 .... RDU and BNA tend to be pretty close in operation size
PIT - 21 Mainline / 21 Regional ... 42 .... wow...
STL - 22 Mainline / 16 Regional ... 38 .... ...ditto


I don't have an exact mainline / regional split but looking under the same metric you have:

IND - 44 departures - looks like 13 mainline and the rest regional.
AUS - 36 departures
DEN - 33 departures

Interesting in terms of presence at all of these places.


Left off was:
ATL - 55 departures
CMH - 49 departures
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Fri May 31, 2019 11:56 am

vhtje wrote:
What is the definition of a ‘hub’ and ‘focus city’? I understood hub meant it was having aircraft and crew based in a city. But SFO has AA crew based there and it’s not a hub.

Do note I am not American before you flame me for asking what might be an obvious question!


Some U.S. carriers have (and had) crew bases that were not hubs. IIRC, DL had a crew base at SEA even when it had fewer than 40 flights.

The majority-connecting vs. O&D rule doesn't work, either. LAX is a hub for both AA and DL (maybe UA, too) but is majority O&D.

IMHO there are no well-recognized conventions for hubs and focus cities. Carriers use them as they wish. See below for how Delta finesses it:

Delta operates significant hubs and key markets at airports in Amsterdam, Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, London-Heathrow, Los Angeles, Mexico City, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New York-JFK and LaGuardia, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Salt Lake City, São Paulo, Seattle, Seoul-Incheon and Tokyo-Narita.
 
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Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

Fri May 31, 2019 12:07 pm

I would assume Boston would have to be one of the largest non-hub stations.

Just looking at today we have:

Los Angeles - 6 flights
Dallas/Ft. Worth - 7 flights
Charlotte - 9 flights
Philadelphia - 12 flights
Miami - 6 flights
Phoenix - 4 flights
Chicago O'Hare - 8 flights
New York JFK - 1 flight
New York LaGuardia - 15 flights
Washington National - 16 flights
Syracuse - 1 flight
Rochester - 2 flights
Harrisburg - 1 flight

Of course this is their weekday schedule and I am sure there are some lower levels on the weekends. But for the most part they offer a large number of flights out of Boston no matter the day or the month.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 12:09 pm

LHR 21 mainline
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 12:11 pm

vhtje wrote:
What is the definition of a ‘hub’ and ‘focus city’? I understood hub meant it was having aircraft and crew based in a city. But SFO has AA crew based there and it’s not a hub.

Do note I am not American before you flame me for asking what might be an obvious question!


Vhtje, you won't be flamed because it's an excellent question! The answer depends on who's answering the question. For instance, if you ask Delta, it would say ATL, DTW, MSP, cities with substantial amounts of traffic are hubs, but they also have crew bases in SFO and MCO. However, if you ask JetBlue, they would say JFK, BOS, and FLL are focus cities, even though they are 3 of that airline's largest operating cities. So the answer is: it depends!
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:07 pm

AA doesn't really per se have focus cities. DCA is considered a hub with very little connecting traffic. AA as noted above has some large airport operations that do have some amount of connecting traffic. I've connected in SFO, LAS, MCO, and DEN. I've also made connections in RDU, BNA, MSY, ATL, and a few others.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:07 pm

MCI has quite a few I think. 20 at least.
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:22 pm

vhtje wrote:
What is the definition of a ‘hub’ and ‘focus city’? I understood hub meant it was having aircraft and crew based in a city. But SFO has AA crew based there and it’s not a hub.

Do note I am not American before you flame me for asking what might be an obvious question!


There are hubs, bases and focus cities. All hubs are bases (DFW, LAX, etc). Not all bases are hubs (SFO, BOS). Focus cities like IND are neither hubs nor bases.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:37 pm

I think outside of AA's hubs, BOS would qualify as the only focus city - it's where AA runs non-hub flights (MDT, ROC, SYR). PIT and RDU could possibly also qualify. I don't see how, despite large operations, CMH, IND or MCO would qualify as focus cities.
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:44 pm

If I recall correctly, US had clearly defined PHL, CLT, and PHX as their hubs and DCA as a focus city; although BOS had a sizable US operation, it was still just a large station for them.
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:44 pm

Looking at a full year of 2019, the following are the largest non-hubs by various metrics (data from DIIO MI):

Flights:
BOS - 29,698 (81/day)
MCO - 18,439 (51/day)
ATL - 17,622 (48/day)
RDU - 16,917 (46/day)
SFO - 16,510 (45/day)
BNA - 16,271 (45/day)

Seats:
BOS - 4,064,058 (11,134/day)
MCO - 3,213,139 (8,803/day)
LAS - 2,624,653 (7,191/day)
SFO - 2,540,105 (6,959/day)
ATL - 2,168,761 (5,942/day)
LHR - 2,039,215 (5,587/day)

Though, if you ask Vasu Raja (AA's VP of Network Planning) he'll tell you that LHR is a hub so maybe I should've left that one out :D
 
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Fri May 31, 2019 1:47 pm

This is a pretty good description of airport categories in the USA: https://www.airportsusa.com/forecast-me ... ategories/
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:27 am

flyer1225 wrote:
If I recall correctly, US had clearly defined PHL, CLT, and PHX as their hubs and DCA as a focus city; although BOS had a sizable US operation, it was still just a large station for them.

DCA has been indicated as a hub for US (now AA) since the 90s.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:41 am

soflaflyer wrote:
flyer1225 wrote:
If I recall correctly, US had clearly defined PHL, CLT, and PHX as their hubs and DCA as a focus city; although BOS had a sizable US operation, it was still just a large station for them.

DCA has been indicated as a hub for US (now AA) since the 90s.


Interesting, we don't acknowledge it as a hub, and it wasn't included on their papers passed to us showing plans for the hubs three years ago.

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Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:40 am

Recognizing a hub is easy - it has spokes. And a high percentage of connecting traffic.
Spokes only have flights to one or two hubs for a given airline.
Focus cities are harder to pin down; some say that a focus city has multiple connections to most hubs, while others say that focus cities have a lot of point-to-point flying that does not include hubs.
There are also gateways, which primarily provide feed from and to international flights.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:49 am

usairways787 wrote:
soflaflyer wrote:
flyer1225 wrote:
If I recall correctly, US had clearly defined PHL, CLT, and PHX as their hubs and DCA as a focus city; although BOS had a sizable US operation, it was still just a large station for them.

DCA has been indicated as a hub for US (now AA) since the 90s.


Interesting, we don't acknowledge it as a hub, and it wasn't included on their papers passed to us showing plans for the hubs three years ago.

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I can't speak for internal documents, but from a marketing perspective US definitely referred to DCA as a hub pre-merger.
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:49 am

From the AA S19 Departures thread viewtopic.php?t=1420609

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IMO, BOS may have more departures than JFK at this time. Is that true?


Yes. I believe BOS was just over 90 departures on the date I had looked at. Almost entirely to hubs, with MDT, ROC, and SYR still hanging on for now.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:20 am

flyer1225 wrote:
If I recall correctly, US had clearly defined PHL, CLT, and PHX as their hubs and DCA as a focus city; although BOS had a sizable US operation, it was still just a large station for them.

Pre-HP merger BOS and FLL were both focus cities for US. I know that's a bit of a step back in time. They were both quickly de-emphasized with the merger or at least around the same time.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:06 am

Detroit has to be pretty near the top as well.
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:07 pm

Just a quick look shows 35 flights out of Tampa tomorrow and all appear to be mainline.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:31 pm

How many flights do they have from EWR today?
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:17 pm

I’m shocked mainline ramp doesn’t handle BNA. It’s currently contracted out to Envoy.
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:34 pm

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I’m shocked mainline ramp doesn’t handle BNA. It’s currently contracted out to Envoy.


RDU was also handled by Envoy before the merger. I don't know who does it know since U.S. Airways ramp was mainline before the merger.

Does anybody know what the number of mainline flights a station operates before AA ramp takes over?
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:44 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
How many flights do they have from EWR today?


DFW 5 all mainline
MIA 3 all mainline
ORD 7, 4 mainline and 3 Eagle
CLT 8 all mainline
PHX 4 of course all mainline
LAX none
LHR none on AA metal, BA only

So that's a total of 27 flights a day, as far as I know, 24 of which being mainline.
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:28 pm

BOS and RDU and PIT would be considered AA focus cities has those stations have flights to other out stations that aren’t hubs. Just maybe not a large scale.

Hub is a station that has a ton a flights to out stations and focuses on both connections and local O/D Traffic.

Focus city is a station that has flights to both hubs and outstations and the flight to other outstations are geared towards O/D traffic.

Crew bases are common outside of hubs and focus cities. Especially on a regional level. For example, PSA has crew bases in on CVG, DAY, ORF which aren’t AA hubs or focus cities and have crew bases in PHL, DCA, and CLT which are hubs.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:35 pm

dfw88 wrote:
Looking at a full year of 2019, the following are the largest non-hubs by various metrics (data from DIIO MI):

Flights:
BOS - 29,698 (81/day)
MCO - 18,439 (51/day)
ATL - 17,622 (48/day)
RDU - 16,917 (46/day)
SFO - 16,510 (45/day)
BNA - 16,271 (45/day)

Seats:
BOS - 4,064,058 (11,134/day)
MCO - 3,213,139 (8,803/day)
LAS - 2,624,653 (7,191/day)
SFO - 2,540,105 (6,959/day)
ATL - 2,168,761 (5,942/day)
LHR - 2,039,215 (5,587/day)

Though, if you ask Vasu Raja (AA's VP of Network Planning) he'll tell you that LHR is a hub so maybe I should've left that one out :D


This is interesting. Wouldn't have figured ATL was that busy of a station for AA even with CLT close by.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:31 pm

HPRamper wrote:
flyer1225 wrote:
If I recall correctly, US had clearly defined PHL, CLT, and PHX as their hubs and DCA as a focus city; although BOS had a sizable US operation, it was still just a large station for them.

Pre-HP merger BOS and FLL were both focus cities for US. I know that's a bit of a step back in time. They were both quickly de-emphasized with the merger or at least around the same time.


Shortly afterwards Ben Baldanza left US for Spirit and took his FLL focus city idea with him.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:15 pm

N292UX wrote:
BOS is definitely the biggest. MCO, PIT, and RDU are up there too.

IND & CMH are also decent sized operations for them. Definitely not the largest, but it is worth noting that AA does serve all of their hub cities, including JFK, from both IND and CMH.


AA has a very limited number of passengers who connect via CMH. Somebody pulled the stats for last year in the Ohio thread and it was typically PHX-CMH-LGA or the reverse, IIRC.
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:22 pm

What percentage of AA's passengers at DCA are connecting traffic? I would think it would be the lowest of all of their hubs. DCA isn't exactly ideal for connections.
 
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:36 pm

Worth noting that the JFK hub is down to 75 flights this summer...smaller than some of the non hub stations

It supposedly ramps back up in Nov
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:15 am

Largest International seems to be YYZ with 29 (mostly regional however), but CUN and LHR tie as the largest intl mainline station with 21 each though CUN fluctuates daily while LHR is at a stable 21. I do believe CUN goes up to 39 during Northern Winter Saturdays.

I assume LHR is the largest intl based on seats/passengers.
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:33 am

Midwestindy wrote:
Sydscott wrote:
JDAirCEO wrote:
Looking at tomorrow, Friday 5/31. Fridays are typically a peak operation day of the week.

Departures:

MCO - 52 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 52
LAS - 41 Mainline / 0 Regional ... 41
SFO - 41 Mainline / 5 Regional ... 46
BOS - 83 Mainline / 6 Regional ... 89 .... quite a drop in regional from the US days
RDU - 35 Mainline / 14 Regional ... 50 .... regional fluctuates quite a bit here, especially with E190's being Mainline
BNA - 22 Mainline / 25 Regional ... 47 .... RDU and BNA tend to be pretty close in operation size
PIT - 21 Mainline / 21 Regional ... 42 .... wow...
STL - 22 Mainline / 16 Regional ... 38 .... ...ditto


I don't have an exact mainline / regional split but looking under the same metric you have:

IND - 44 departures - looks like 13 mainline and the rest regional.
AUS - 36 departures
DEN - 33 departures

Interesting in terms of presence at all of these places.


Left off was:
ATL - 55 departures
CMH - 49 departures


Atlanta's 55 departures, that is quite impressive.
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:48 am

N292UX wrote:
BOS is definitely the biggest. MCO, PIT, and RDU are up there too.

IND & CMH are also decent sized operations for them. Definitely not the largest, but it is worth noting that AA does serve all of their hub cities, including JFK, from both IND and CMH.



What's the smallest city with service to all the hubs?
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:17 am

UpNAWAy wrote:
N292UX wrote:
BOS is definitely the biggest. MCO, PIT, and RDU are up there too.

IND & CMH are also decent sized operations for them. Definitely not the largest, but it is worth noting that AA does serve all of their hub cities, including JFK, from both IND and CMH.



What's the smallest city with service to all the hubs?

It's actually CMH. Followed by IND most likely.

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