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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:55 am

My personal favourite was Sabena back in the late 80s, early 90s.

SIN-KUL-BKK-BOM- (somewhere in the middle east)-BRU. All on a DC-10 Combi with less than 200pax.

From what I recall Sabena had their regional office in Bombay, there would always be comail addressed to Mr.Lobo/BOM.

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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:22 am

FlyingElvii wrote:
Pan Am and TWA had a bunch of Add-on Empty Segments to JFK as well. PA did CLE-IND, CMH-IND, and IND-MCI at different times, TWA did IND-DAY, IND-CVG, and IND-CMH as well. These were not the only ones, either.
There are a bunch more of these that I can recall, but it’s too late an hour to go digging through boxes for the old OAG’s. When I first ran into one of those, it was a wide-eyed wonder, a window onto the world to a curious and adventure-seeking small town teen.


A lot of those routings were dictated by the CAB.

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Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:33 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
A lot of those routings were dictated by the CAB.

GF

What does the CAB stand for?
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:37 am

MartijnNL wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
A lot of those routings were dictated by the CAB.

GF

What does the CAB stand for?


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Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:40 am

AlexBrewster03 wrote:
What were some of the craziest Frontier routes?


From 1970 - http://www.departedflights.com/FL102570.html
From 1980 - http://www.departedflights.com/FL120180.html

MD80Ttail wrote:
How about AS flying MD80s to Russia back in I believe the late 80s or early 90s??? Help me w those dates please......but the flight was real. Real strange.


AS started June 17th 1991, service was to Magadan & Khabarovsk

From 1992 - http://www.departedflights.com/AS060892.html
From 1995 - http://www.departedflights.com/AS010995.html

FlyingElvii wrote:
The CO/AirMike Island Hopper route. Was previously flown by PanAm. I am not sure if UA still flies it? Honolulu (HNL) to Majuro (MAJ) to Kwajalein (KWA) to Kosrae (KSA) to Pohnpei (PNI) to Chuuk (TKK) to Guam (GUM).Used to include Johnston Island before the base closed. I’m not sure, but didn’t Hawaiian operate this for a while as well? Or was that just the Johnston Island leg?


I am curious when PA operated the Island Hopper before CO Mike, I checked out PA timetables & route maps from the 50's & they used Wake Island as their stop point to Japan & Guam & Canton Island heading to Fiji & Australia, but I'd love to research it more.

IE ... PA route map 1952 - http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... 52t-07.jpg

southwest1675 wrote:
HSV-LAX in the late 60s/70s


That's right UA did that for the space industry traffic to Doulas IIRC ... One HSV - MEM -LAX, HSV=LAX & HSV - TYS/GSO/CHA all mainline . http://www.departedflights.com/UA060172p18.html

Lastly maybe my oddest flight JHM-OGG on a WP Twotter cost me walk-up fare of $10, cost way less than a taxi & I caught my mainland flight home, it was awesome!
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:55 am

By far the craziest of all was the Scottish Flyer service of Channel Airways in the UK in early 1970's. It routed Portsmouth, Southend, Stansted, East Midlands. Teesside, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Aberdeen on a Viscount with an average stage length of 74 miles. A money drain if ever there was one.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:56 am

United Bangladesh operated a short-lived MD-80 service to London Gatwick with several stops on the way.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:57 am

LAN Chile's SCL-IPC-PPT-NAN, in the mid-late 70s. And SCL-LIM-MIA-YUL, operated twice weekly during Pinochet's rule. Ironically the YUL route was for people fleeing the country! so was SCL-CDG
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:12 am

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HSV-LAX in the late 60s/70s


UA also tried LAX-GRR and MRY-ORD in the 1970s. I vaguely recall LAX-DSM but not sure.

Western ran an Electra SEA-ADQ in the early 1970s.

Air West did SFO-PSC.

QX did RNO-MMH and SJC-MMH when they briefly tried through plane service from SEA and PDX to MMH.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:33 am

AV8 did a short spell of flying NCL MAN DUB PMI CPT, on a 767-300, did the MAN -DUB section for £39 return including baggage, the plane was nearly empty and turned left upon boarding, the best 30 minute flight I've ever had!
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:14 am

There's even some still today. Qatar flies SYD-CBR on the 77W believe it or not! No local traffic right's of course.
I'd add Korean Air LAX - GRU
JAL JFK-GRU (but with a large Japanese population in GRU that one may make sense)
But the oddest one I can think of is Air NZ AKL-POM-HKG and on the 747 too!

Oh and lets not forget things like Air Nauru flying Nauruo to Tokyo. They had more money than sense
in those times and somebody decided a small island... without much of a tourist industry that made
its money from phosphate mining for some reason needed to get to Tokyo department stores!

Oh lets Not forget American flying EZE to Montevideo. You can just about see Montevideo from EZE it's
so close!
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:25 am

I remember Uzbekistan Airways flew TAZ-RIX-JFK on their 757/767 with traffic rights between Riga and New York. Certainly not the airport you would immediately think of for a connection to JFK.

Also, while not crazy on its own, I found it interesting to be at Auckland airport and see three Emirates 380s departing withing one hour or so, one stopping in SYD, one in MEL, and the last in BNE or PER. They must have arrived in DXB roughly at the same time...
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:43 am

At one point, TG's TPAC network included DFW and SFO, operated with a 742 via NRT and SEA during the early 1980s.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:56 am

LH658 wrote:
I think a crazy route in today terms is UA hopper route in the Pacific. Or Uzbekistan airways Guam to Nagoya.


HY's flights were charters for a matter of days. Seemingly a strange choice of airline for them though.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:07 am

From some old Hamburg Airport schedules I have:

SAS HAM-LEJ on a DC-9 in the 90s

Finnair HAM-AMS on a DC-9 in the 80s

Interflug HAM-LEJ on a Tu-134 (yes this actually existed, in the short period between the Fall of the Berlin Wall and the end of Interflug)

Alitalia HAM-MXP-BCN on a MD-80 (one flight number!) in the 90s

Northwest Orient with routes like HAM-LGW-MSP-LAX/SFO and HAM-CPH-EWR-DTW on 747s (according to the schedule without change of gauge) in the 80s (with 2 NW 747s on the ground in HAM at the same time on two days a week)

JAL HND-ANC-HAM-LHR-ORY on DC-8 in the 60s

Lufthansa FRA-DUS-HAM-ANC-HND-OSA (thats 4 stops) on 707 in the 60s

Delta had a pretty interesting constellation of flights in the mid 90s: ATL-HAM-CPH-JFK-CPH-HAM-ATL on 767s

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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:08 am

PB26 wrote:
GIG-LIS-AMM-SDA by Iraq Airways.
GIG-GRU-JNB-BKK-HKG by Varig.
CCS-(MAD)-DAM-THR by Conviasa.
EZE-CPT-JNB-KUL by Malaysia.
The Fiesta Route by Qantas.


Brazil still has the biggest Arab diaspora outside the middle east (from 9 to 12 million without counting their grandchildren), this route made sense before the 9/11...
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:19 am

Viasa BEY-MXP-LIS-CCS OR BEY-MXP-MAD-CCS not sure of the exact routing
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:24 am

Austrian Airlines IAD-GVA-VIE A310
Swissair IAD-PHL-ZRH 743
Swissair ZRH-BOM-HKG-SEL MD11
DELTA AGS-SAV MD80
USAirways Express SAV-JAX DH8
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AEROFLOT IAD-SNN-SVO IL86
DELTA DUB-SNN 767
CONTINENTAL EXPRESS EWR-JFK ATR42
BRITISH AIRWAYS ANC-FUK 767
KOREAN AIR ICN-NBO 330
AIR INDIA EWR-CDG EQV
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UNITED EXPRESS LAX-ONT EMB
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:37 am

The Balkan TU-154 flight routing was SOF-MLA-LOS-HRE. They also had a SOF-DXB-MLE flight.
A lot of the routings cited above aren't crazy- aircraft didn't have today's range so intermediate stops were necessary to get to the final destination.

Here's another one from the 80's on a BA 747-136 (once weekly)
LHR-ANC-NRT-HKG-CMB-SEZ-JNB-NBO-LHR. Change of flight numbers in HKG & JNB.

The Iraqi Airways flight to Rio served the Lebanese diaspora in Brazil. Flight operated via AMM as BEY was a no-go zone at the time.

Honourable mention to Royal Brunei's ridiculous expansion in the 90's:
BWN-KUL-BAH-CAI or ZRH (763) and BWN-SIN-CCU-DXB-MCT (757).


All the European carrier flights to Australia served the various immigrant populations, but the economics (except for BA's high premium load factor) made it impossible to operate now with high fuel and cheap fares. Admittedly, the Air Austral CDG-RUN-SYD-NOU flight was not well thought out, especially trying to balance demand between CDG-RUN & CDG-NOU.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:49 am

eta unknown wrote:

Honourable mention to Royal Brunei's ridiculous expansion in the 90's:
BWN-KUL-BAH-CAI or ZRH (763) and BWN-SIN-CCU-DXB-MCT (757).

.

Yup, and at one point, they flew BWN-BKK-DXB-FRA with a 767(?) in the early 1990s.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:50 am

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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:28 am

DominoxX wrote:
LAN Chile's SCL-IPC-PPT-NAN, in the mid-late 70s. And SCL-LIM-MIA-YUL, operated twice weekly during Pinochet's rule. Ironically the YUL route was for people fleeing the country! so was SCL-CDG



They still fly that first route, dropped NAN, I believe.
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:32 am

AirAfreak wrote:
Austrian Airlines IAD-GVA-VIE A310
Swissair IAD-PHL-ZRH 743
Swissair ZRH-BOM-HKG-SEL MD11
DELTA AGS-SAV MD80
USAirways Express SAV-JAX DH8
AEROFLOT SVO-FNJ IL86
AEROFLOT IAD-SNN-SVO IL86
DELTA DUB-SNN 767
CONTINENTAL EXPRESS EWR-JFK ATR42
BRITISH AIRWAYS ANC-FUK 767
KOREAN AIR ICN-NBO 330
AIR INDIA EWR-CDG EQV
CONTINENTAL ATL-HHH MD80
UNITED EXPRESS LAX-ONT EMB


No way did CO fly in/out of Hilton Head with a Mad Dog. There is 4300’ of runway, since expanded. DL DUB-SNN is probably for parking as are some others here, like SYD-CBR.

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Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:49 am

DL - PDX-FUK
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:01 pm

RWA380 wrote:
AlexBrewster03 wrote:
What were some of the craziest Frontier routes?


From 1970 - http://www.departedflights.com/FL102570.html
From 1980 - http://www.departedflights.com/FL120180.html

MD80Ttail wrote:
How about AS flying MD80s to Russia back in I believe the late 80s or early 90s??? Help me w those dates please......but the flight was real. Real strange.


AS started June 17th 1991, service was to Magadan & Khabarovsk

From 1992 - http://www.departedflights.com/AS060892.html
From 1995 - http://www.departedflights.com/AS010995.html

FlyingElvii wrote:
The CO/AirMike Island Hopper route. Was previously flown by PanAm. I am not sure if UA still flies it? Honolulu (HNL) to Majuro (MAJ) to Kwajalein (KWA) to Kosrae (KSA) to Pohnpei (PNI) to Chuuk (TKK) to Guam (GUM).Used to include Johnston Island before the base closed. I’m not sure, but didn’t Hawaiian operate this for a while as well? Or was that just the Johnston Island leg?


I am curious when PA operated the Island Hopper before CO Mike, I checked out PA timetables & route maps from the 50's & they used Wake Island as their stop point to Japan & Guam & Canton Island heading to Fiji & Australia, but I'd love to research it more.

IE ... PA route map 1952 - http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... 52t-07.jpg

southwest1675 wrote:
HSV-LAX in the late 60s/70s


That's right UA did that for the space industry traffic to Doulas IIRC ... One HSV - MEM -LAX, HSV=LAX & HSV - TYS/GSO/CHA all mainline . http://www.departedflights.com/UA060172p18.html

Lastly maybe my oddest flight JHM-OGG on a WP Twotter cost me walk-up fare of $10, cost way less than a taxi & I caught my mainland flight home, it was awesome!



The Island hopper between HNL and GUM
was pioneered by Continental’s Air Micronesia division all at the direction of
Bob Six, the larger than life CEO of the company who led the airline from post WW2 all the way until the early ‘80’s


Pan Am had their own network but they did
not inaugurate, develop or operate the island hopper

That has always been a Continental/ Air Mike and now United operation
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:16 pm

eta unknown wrote:
The Balkan TU-154 flight routing was SOF-MLA-LOS-HRE. They also had a SOF-DXB-MLE flight.
A lot of the routings cited above aren't crazy- aircraft didn't have today's range so intermediate stops were necessary to get to the final destination.

Here's another one from the 80's on a BA 747-136 (once weekly)
LHR-ANC-NRT-HKG-CMB-SEZ-JNB-NBO-LHR. Change of flight numbers in HKG & JNB.

The Iraqi Airways flight to Rio served the Lebanese diaspora in Brazil. Flight operated via AMM as BEY was a no-go zone at the time.

Honourable mention to Royal Brunei's ridiculous expansion in the 90's:
BWN-KUL-BAH-CAI or ZRH (763) and BWN-SIN-CCU-DXB-MCT (757).


All the European carrier flights to Australia served the various immigrant populations, but the economics (except for BA's high premium load factor) made it impossible to operate now with high fuel and cheap fares. Admittedly, the Air Austral CDG-RUN-SYD-NOU flight was not well thought out, especially trying to balance demand between CDG-RUN & CDG-NOU.

Thank you for the correction on the Balkan routing!!

Totally agree that people have included routes that weren't stupid at all but simply necessary for range reasons.

On the Iraqi Airways routing being via AMM: wouldn't DAM have made more sense for the lebanese diaspora? DAM is a stone's throw away feom BEY, AMM not so much.

Royal Brunei also had flights to/from LHR going through RGN - the only direct flight between Burma/Myanmar and Europe at the time, when it was still a pariah state. I believe the routing was BWN-RGN-AUH-LHR (they could have changed AUH for DXB by that time). Late 90s to early 2000s.
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:17 pm

Didn’t see mentioned anywhere yet, CO flew HOU-IAH for many years.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:28 pm

Antarius wrote:
Zortan wrote:
Cool! By crazy I mean something that doesn't really make much financial sense / weird routings, etc.


The one that got SMI/J fired from UA.


That one was not entirely crazy. In the 70s and maybe 80s, both EA and DL did CAE-EWR several times a day. New York was and probably still is the most popular destination from CAE, but now you have to go to LGA or go through CLT, ATL, IAD or DCA. The CAE-EWR route was crazy because it was only on the weekend, when business desmans is zero.
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:31 pm

Antarius wrote:
Zortan wrote:
Cool! By crazy I mean something that doesn't really make much financial sense / weird routings, etc.


The one that got SMI/J fired from UA.


I wonder why Smisek isn't in jail???
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:33 pm

PB26 wrote:
The Fiesta Route by Qantas.


Gemuser wrote:
The route was SYD-NAN-PPT-ACA-MEX-NAS-BDA-LHR flown once or twice a week with B707 aircraft. It started in the 1960s and finished in the 1970s Really, really crazy but very interesting!


YYZLGA wrote:
Wow that's wild. Was the purpose of the route to serve people travelling between London and Australia who wanted a vacation stopover and weren't interested in BKK?


Or, in other parlance, Qantas flight 580/581. I wrote about these on my blog here. I'd love to do those flights today, stopping off at each place along the way. I'm sure there are services that do it, but it would be fun for Qantas to put one on for their 100th birthday next year.

Do you know what year the Fiesta Route was cancelled? Sometime in the 1970s for sure.
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
AirAfreak wrote:
Austrian Airlines IAD-GVA-VIE A310
Swissair IAD-PHL-ZRH 743
Swissair ZRH-BOM-HKG-SEL MD11
DELTA AGS-SAV MD80
USAirways Express SAV-JAX DH8
AEROFLOT SVO-FNJ IL86
AEROFLOT IAD-SNN-SVO IL86
DELTA DUB-SNN 767
CONTINENTAL EXPRESS EWR-JFK ATR42
BRITISH AIRWAYS ANC-FUK 767
KOREAN AIR ICN-NBO 330
AIR INDIA EWR-CDG EQV
CONTINENTAL ATL-HHH MD80
UNITED EXPRESS LAX-ONT EMB


No way did CO fly in/out of Hilton Head with a Mad Dog. There is 4300’ of runway, since expanded. DL DUB-SNN is probably for parking as are some others here, like SYD-CBR.

GF

DUB-SNN was a product of the Irish government’s policy requiring that half of the transatlantic flights be operated from SNN. Most carriers simply had their flights stop in SNN where passengers would clear USCIS. Continental was the only carrier to split the services.

Mentioned earlier are a few SU flights.
SVO-FNJ was of course political, though the DPRK’s economy was in better shape in the 70s and 80s.
Stopovers in Seattle: when flown with Soviet era equipment the range was much more limited. The PacNW also has a history of Russian immigration.

Iraqi Airways serving Brazil needs to be taken in context. Until 1991 Iraq was considered a very stable and friendly government. The carrier serving the diaspora in Brazil was one reason, but Rio de Janeiro is also the oil center in Brazil.

NW at least considering serving Baghdad isn’t that much of a stretch. Detroit has a substantial Iraqi population.
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:42 pm

airzim wrote:
Didn’t see mentioned anywhere yet, CO flew HOU-IAH for many years.


They did? They used to fly Ellington Field - IAH for a while, allowing those in the south east and south to easily connect to IAH. Didnt know about HOU.
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:55 pm

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DAY-CVG on DL was a bit ridiculous.


I still find ORD-MKE ridiculous. I understand it’s for connections, but from the two airports it’s a 1.25 hour drive at most.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:57 pm

Aerolineas Argentinas EZE-SCQ-MAD until a few years ago as summer seasonal. There is even a thread here :) viewtopic.php?t=237825

Conviasa CCS-SCQ and CCS-TFN. Then Santa Barbara also flew CCS-TFN and today Plus Ultra flies MAD-TFN-CCS in selected days.

Avianca BOG-ALC also quite recently.

Those are all heavy-VFR traffic routes but they must seem bizarre for the "untrained" eye.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:05 pm

Royal Brunei & Europe...
Ah I forgot about the short lived RGN-AUH-LHR flight! RBA took over control of Myanmar Airways because they wanted RGN traffic rights to the world (BWN had difficulty securing these due to population of under 400k). Unfortunately, RBA couldn't put their own house in order and the next thing you know they're screwing up Myanmar. Eventually RGN accused RBA of embezzlement (may or may not have been true or just incompetence) and the whole RGN saga ended quickly and RBA took back their leased 757.
The BWN-BKK-AUH (or DXB)- FRA flights had decent load factors, but the royalties RBA had to pay TG for BKK-FRA pax were huge.
The LHR-BWN flights operated via AUH or DXB and one day a week an extra stop was made in SIN. Loads never a problem.
The disaster was ZRH and to a lesser extent CAI. No problem filling the BWN-KUL sector, but KUL-BAH always empty. BAH-CAI often full, but ZRH was just terrible, even with rock bottom fares... basically you couldn't give it away. They really wanted CDG flights, but after years of unsuccessful negotiations settled on ZRH as needed to keep 9 763's busy. At the time they had a bit of a loyal following in Australia for LHR/FRA traffic with lots of repeat pax as the fares they charged for the service you received was very good.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:14 pm

TW's SEA-ICT route on a MD-80 jet while trying to catch Boeing business between their two sites.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:30 pm

Hughes Airwest flight 4 (as an example). It's listed as Puerto Vallarta to Seattle with seven stops, listed like that in the timetable. An avgeek dream. The first stop isn't even listed...must have been in Mexico, then PHX - SJC - SFO - SMF - EUG - PDX - SEA. Talk about a milk run. Of course, it was simply one flight of a plane for the entire day vs. breaking up the flight numbers but some of those flights would be faster to drive these days.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:32 pm

UA recently flying LGA-RDU 3x daily in a silly attempt to compete with DL.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:53 pm

In the old days of Apartheid, SAA had some strange routing, the usual route to ATH was JNB-LIS-ROM-ATH. I remember on one occasion seeing one flight which had to take a 5th pod engine and it was routed JNB-WDH-LIS-ROM-ATH. They also flew JNB-LIS-ROM-TLV.
SSC-707B727 737-741234SP757/762/3/772/WA300/10/319/2/1-342/3/6-880-DAM-VC10 TRD 111 Ju52-DC8/9/10/11-YS11-748-VCV DH4B L
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:13 pm

MIA-FLL on WA/DL/NW
IAD-DCA on WA
BWI-DCA on LC
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:13 pm

GYD-ABZ was operated by Azerbaijan Airlines.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:21 pm

There used to be a range of "milk runs" in the UK by the "secondary" airlines. If my recollection is correct Dan-Air used to fly something like Bournemouth- Manchester-Newcastle-Edinburgh-Inverness or something crazy like that. When I was in Brazil ten plus years ago I was on a Varig milk-run that went from Belo-Horizonte up the coast to include Rio, São Paulo, Salvador to Manaus I believe.
A319 320 321 330 340 380 B707 727 737 747 757 767 777 787 BAe1-11 Trident 1, 2, 3B Viscount Lancaster VC10 HS748, ATP DHC-1, 3 Dash-8 Dash-400 Shorts 330 360 Embraer Banderiante Brasileria 175 190 BAe146 Saab 200 DC-3 -8 -9 -10 MD-11 ATR42-72
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:22 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
Aerolineas Argentinas EZE-SCQ-MAD until a few years ago as summer seasonal. There is even a thread here :) viewtopic.php?t=237825

Conviasa CCS-SCQ and CCS-TFN. Then Santa Barbara also flew CCS-TFN and today Plus Ultra flies MAD-TFN-CCS in selected days.

Avianca BOG-ALC also quite recently.

Those are all heavy-VFR traffic routes but they must seem bizarre for the "untrained" eye.


The Canary Islands have a large Venezuelan population :)
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:52 pm

Reno Air:

SJC-IFP
SJC-COS
SJC-RDM
LAX-TVL
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:18 pm

SAA had to take the long way round to Europe as they weren't allowed to fly over most African countries.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:41 pm

[quote="Antarius"][quote="airzim"]Didn’t see mentioned anywhere yet, CO flew HOU-IAH for many years.[/quote]

They did? They used to fly Ellington Field - IAH for a while, allowing those in the south east and south to easily connect to IAH. Didnt know about HOU.[/quote]


Continental did fly HOU-IAH as a scheduled route with mainline and express
aircraft


Houston to Houston, they also had a narrowbody maintenance hangar at Hobby, I picked up a 727 there one day and flew ‘non stop’ to Intercontinental
The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.


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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:50 pm

GH BWI-ACC
GL BWI-SFJ
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:01 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
FlyingElvii wrote:
Pan Am and TWA had a bunch of Add-on Empty Segments to JFK as well. PA did CLE-IND, CMH-IND, and IND-MCI at different times, TWA did IND-DAY, IND-CVG, and IND-CMH as well. These were not the only ones, either.
There are a bunch more of these that I can recall, but it’s too late an hour to go digging through boxes for the old OAG’s. When I first ran into one of those, it was a wide-eyed wonder, a window onto the world to a curious and adventure-seeking small town teen.


A lot of those routings were dictated by the CAB.

GF

No, these were long after Dereg.
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:14 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
AirAfreak wrote:
Austrian Airlines IAD-GVA-VIE A310
Swissair IAD-PHL-ZRH 743
Swissair ZRH-BOM-HKG-SEL MD11
DELTA AGS-SAV MD80
USAirways Express SAV-JAX DH8
AEROFLOT SVO-FNJ IL86
AEROFLOT IAD-SNN-SVO IL86
DELTA DUB-SNN 767
CONTINENTAL EXPRESS EWR-JFK ATR42
BRITISH AIRWAYS ANC-FUK 767
KOREAN AIR ICN-NBO 330
AIR INDIA EWR-CDG EQV
CONTINENTAL ATL-HHH MD80
UNITED EXPRESS LAX-ONT EMB


No way did CO fly in/out of Hilton Head with a Mad Dog. There is 4300’ of runway, since expanded. DL DUB-SNN is probably for parking as are some others here, like SYD-CBR.

GF

Both UA on Skywest, and TW on Trans States ran LAX to BUR/ ONT/SNA for many years. Both Metros and SH36
 
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Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:35 pm

DominoxX wrote:
LAN Chile's SCL-IPC-PPT-NAN, in the mid-late 70s. And SCL-LIM-MIA-YUL, operated twice weekly during Pinochet's rule. Ironically the YUL route was for people fleeing the country! so was SCL-CDG


Would it be YMX instead of YUL?

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