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caliboy93 wrote:How are flight numbers typically assigned? I know that single digit numbers are for most lucrative routes between major cities (NYC-Paris, etc) whereas 4 digit ones are for regional and short-haul.
caliboy93 wrote:I know that single digit numbers are for most lucrative routes between major cities (NYC-Paris, etc) whereas 4 digit ones are for regional and short-haul.
afterburner wrote:For Qantas, QF 001 to 399 is for international flights. QF 400 and above is for domestic ones.
Dominion301 wrote:Air Canada (roughly):
001-099 Asia
100s & 1100s YYZ transcons
200s Intra-Western Canada plus YWG-YYZ
300s non-YYZ transcons + YYZ-YMM
400s Rapidair/Eastern Triangle (i.e ., YOW/YUL-YYZ & YOW-YUL mainline)
500s Western Canada transborder
600s YYZ/YUL/YOW-Atlantic Canada
700s YYZ & YUL-US Northeast
800s Transatlantic
900s Caribbean
1000s YUL & YYZ-western transborder
1200s non-YUL/YYZ Mainline to Florida/Sun Routes (I think the last of these are going to Rouge this winter)
1500s-1900s Rouge
2000s extra sections
7000s ferry flights & Jetz
7200-8999 AC Express carriers
Jomar777 wrote:Dominion301 wrote:Air Canada (roughly):
001-099 Asia
100s & 1100s YYZ transcons
200s Intra-Western Canada plus YWG-YYZ
300s non-YYZ transcons + YYZ-YMM
400s Rapidair/Eastern Triangle (i.e ., YOW/YUL-YYZ & YOW-YUL mainline)
500s Western Canada transborder
600s YYZ/YUL/YOW-Atlantic Canada
700s YYZ & YUL-US Northeast
800s Transatlantic
900s Caribbean
1000s YUL & YYZ-western transborder
1200s non-YUL/YYZ Mainline to Florida/Sun Routes (I think the last of these are going to Rouge this winter)
1500s-1900s Rouge
2000s extra sections
7000s ferry flights & Jetz
7200-8999 AC Express carriers
Air Canada's flight to GRU (Brazil) is AC-090 being the return AC091
rida79 wrote:Slightly off topic, but I never understood BA's system for assigning outbound flights a higher number than inbound flights. For instance, LHR-KWI is BA157, whereas KWI-LHR is BA156! Anyone knows why?
GalaxyFlyer wrote:rida79 wrote:Slightly off topic, but I never understood BA's system for assigning outbound flights a higher number than inbound flights. For instance, LHR-KWI is BA157, whereas KWI-LHR is BA156! Anyone knows why?
It’s not higher numbers, it’s odds are outbound, evens inbound.
GF
rida79 wrote:Do other airlines follow that system of numbering?
GalaxyFlyer wrote:rida79 wrote:Slightly off topic, but I never understood BA's system for assigning outbound flights a higher number than inbound flights. For instance, LHR-KWI is BA157, whereas KWI-LHR is BA156! Anyone knows why?
It’s not higher numbers, it’s odds are outbound, evens inbound.
GF
ro1960 wrote:I'm happy to hear how AF assigns flight numbers. It's all over the place.
DeltaRules wrote:UA's TPAC flights used to be 800s
Crackshot wrote:DeltaRules wrote:UA's TPAC flights used to be 800s
They still are, are they not? Did they inherit those flight numbers when they brought Pan Am's pacific routes?
Cathay also uses 800+ for their NA flights.
SRQKEF wrote:Jomar777 wrote:Dominion301 wrote:Air Canada (roughly):
001-099 Asia
100s & 1100s YYZ transcons
200s Intra-Western Canada plus YWG-YYZ
300s non-YYZ transcons + YYZ-YMM
400s Rapidair/Eastern Triangle (i.e ., YOW/YUL-YYZ & YOW-YUL mainline)
500s Western Canada transborder
600s YYZ/YUL/YOW-Atlantic Canada
700s YYZ & YUL-US Northeast
800s Transatlantic
900s Caribbean
1000s YUL & YYZ-western transborder
1200s non-YUL/YYZ Mainline to Florida/Sun Routes (I think the last of these are going to Rouge this winter)
1500s-1900s Rouge
2000s extra sections
7000s ferry flights & Jetz
7200-8999 AC Express carriers
Air Canada's flight to GRU (Brazil) is AC-090 being the return AC091
LIM is AC80/81 as well, I guess the higher series of the 0-99 range are Latin American flights.
UALifer wrote:Crackshot wrote:DeltaRules wrote:UA's TPAC flights used to be 800s
They still are, are they not? Did they inherit those flight numbers when they brought Pan Am's pacific routes?
Cathay also uses 800+ for their NA flights.
Most still are, but not all of them. All of the TPAC flights from EWR and IAH are not 8xx flights (since they were inherited from CO), and some of the newer ones from SFO aren’t as well. A couple examples from SFO being SIN (UA 1/2 and UA 28/29), CTU (UA 8/9), and KIX (UA 34/35).
SRQKEF wrote:Jomar777 wrote:Dominion301 wrote:Air Canada (roughly):
001-099 Asia
100s & 1100s YYZ transcons
200s Intra-Western Canada plus YWG-YYZ
300s non-YYZ transcons + YYZ-YMM
400s Rapidair/Eastern Triangle (i.e ., YOW/YUL-YYZ & YOW-YUL mainline)
500s Western Canada transborder
600s YYZ/YUL/YOW-Atlantic Canada
700s YYZ & YUL-US Northeast
800s Transatlantic
900s Caribbean
1000s YUL & YYZ-western transborder
1200s non-YUL/YYZ Mainline to Florida/Sun Routes (I think the last of these are going to Rouge this winter)
1500s-1900s Rouge
2000s extra sections
7000s ferry flights & Jetz
7200-8999 AC Express carriers
Air Canada's flight to GRU (Brazil) is AC-090 being the return AC091
LIM is AC80/81 as well, I guess the higher series of the 0-99 range are Latin American flights.
Crackshot wrote:DeltaRules wrote:UA's TPAC flights used to be 800s
They still are, are they not? Did they inherit those flight numbers when they brought Pan Am's pacific routes?
Cathay also uses 800+ for their NA flights.
UALifer wrote:Crackshot wrote:DeltaRules wrote:UA's TPAC flights used to be 800s
They still are, are they not? Did they inherit those flight numbers when they brought Pan Am's pacific routes?
Cathay also uses 800+ for their NA flights.
Most still are, but not all of them. All of the TPAC flights from EWR and IAH are not 8xx flights (since they were inherited from CO), and some of the newer ones from SFO aren’t as well. A couple examples from SFO being SIN (UA 1/2 and UA 28/29), CTU (UA 8/9), and KIX (UA 34/35).
NZ321 wrote:A number of airlines have had the practice for many years of assigning east travelling flights to even numbers and west travelling flights to odd numbers; similar for northbound (even) and southbound (odd). I note that in recent years many have departed from this convention yet it remains predominant as far as I can work out. Not sure where this convention comes from. Would be curious to know.
NZ321 wrote:A number of airlines have had the practice for many years of assigning east travelling flights to even numbers and west travelling flights to odd numbers; similar for northbound (even) and southbound (odd). I note that in recent years many have departed from this convention yet it remains predominant as far as I can work out. Not sure where this convention comes from. Would be curious to know.
NZ321 wrote:A number of airlines have had the practice for many years of assigning east travelling flights to even numbers and west travelling flights to odd numbers; similar for northbound (even) and southbound (odd). I note that in recent years many have departed from this convention yet it remains predominant as far as I can work out. Not sure where this convention comes from. Would be curious to know.
KL868 wrote:Based on observation for KLM:
KL001-399: longhaul codeshares
KL400-499: Middle East
KL500-599: Africa
KL600-699: North-America
KL700-799: Caribbean, Central- and South-America
KL800-899: Asia
KL900-999: Europe
KL1000-1999: Europe
rest for codeshares, cargo and other flights
SRQKEF wrote:LIM is AC80/81 as well, I guess the higher series of the 0-99 range are Latin American flights.
AirKevin wrote:And Air Canada 033/034 is YYZ-YVR-SYD and back.
Flanker7 wrote:KL868 wrote:Based on observation for KLM:
KL001-399: longhaul codeshares
KL400-499: Middle East
KL500-599: Africa
KL600-699: North-America
KL700-799: Caribbean, Central- and South-America
KL800-899: Asia
KL900-999: Europe
KL1000-1999: Europe
rest for codeshares, cargo and other flights
600-699 includes Mexico
rida79 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:rida79 wrote:Slightly off topic, but I never understood BA's system for assigning outbound flights a higher number than inbound flights. For instance, LHR-KWI is BA157, whereas KWI-LHR is BA156! Anyone knows why?
It’s not higher numbers, it’s odds are outbound, evens inbound.
GF
Do other airlines follow that system of numbering?
slider wrote:NZ321 wrote:A number of airlines have had the practice for many years of assigning east travelling flights to even numbers and west travelling flights to odd numbers; similar for northbound (even) and southbound (odd). I note that in recent years many have departed from this convention yet it remains predominant as far as I can work out. Not sure where this convention comes from. Would be curious to know.
Northwest used to do this, with some exceptions.