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Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:37 pm

Back in 2003/2004, Singapore Airlines was desperate to start SIN-SYD-LAX as well as SIN-AKL-LAX and they were declined by the Australian government. They applied a few times.

Do they still have the interest to do so? Haven't heard anything for a long time.
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:40 pm

I don’t see why they’d go for a one-stop flight now that nonstops between SIN and LAX are available.
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:43 pm

Back then they were really desperate to do so.

I think AKL-LAX, SYD-LAX are mainly for Australians and New Zealanders flying to the US and Americans flying to Australia and New Zealand.

Customers still had the option to fly via NRT or TPE to go to LAX.
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:38 pm

This seems rather duplicative: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1426345

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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:47 pm

They do it now
but AKL/SYD-SIN-LAX instead
 
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:13 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
They do it now
but AKL/SYD-SIN-LAX instead


Sorry to be pedantic but as I understand OP and the title, it’s flying SQ to LAX from either SYD or AKL without landing anywhere including Singapore.

However if the title and OP asked, can I fly to LAX from Sydney or Auckland by SQ than you are indeed correct.

Back to OP’s question, I do believe this to be the case but not on their priority list. I usually fly QF to LAX and then, a major let down, AA to YYZ. If SQ fly this route, then it would be the cost of the ticket between SQ and QF. Now if CX also fly the route, even better.
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:10 pm

Australian Government has nothing to do with AKL-LAX. That would be an issue with the New Zealand government.

As for SYD-LAX, SQ would no longer be interested as they are 5 carriers on the route now and the route yields are currently very low. The carriers are QF, UA, DL, AA and VA. Or 3 "entities" if you count the JVs. UA, QF/AA and VA/DL.
 
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:11 am

I don’t think so TBH, times have changed and while SQ began non stop SIN-LAX in 2004, at that time SYD-LAX had just QF and UA so they were interested in that and I believe MEL-AKL-LAX.

In 2019 as above you have SYD-LAX operated by QF/AA, DL/VA and UA, 5 carriers but down to 3 effectively with JV’s which are stronger than individual carriers.

They probably decided they wouldn’t do AKL-LAX because they couldn’t carry pax MEL-LAX via AKL I don’t think?
 
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:02 am

They wanted to buy Ansett Australia many years ago. Do they still want to start an airline in Australia? If yes then they can do SYD-LAX, MEL-AKL-LAX easily
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:55 am

They never had the interest to fly SYD-SFO though. Why?

They could have done this
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:18 am

UAUA wrote:
They never had the interest to fly SYD-SFO though. Why?

They could have done this


I guess LAX was where the profits were.

How could they have done SYD-SFO? They were denied SYD-LAX, why would SFO have been any different even though it was only UA flying it until QF went back in 2006.

It was denied also partly because it wasn’t a ‘direct’ routing wasn’t it? Ie SIN-SYD-US is an out of the way route.

It could probably be considered similar to NW flying JFK-KIX-SYD in the 1990s.
 
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:40 pm

Well at least QF wasn't flying SYD-SFO back then
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:40 pm

ZK-NBT wrote:
UAUA wrote:

It could probably be considered similar to NW flying JFK-KIX-SYD in the 1990s.


Heard that it was doing very well. They were forced to stop. Why?
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Re: Is SQ still interested to start SIN-SYD-LAX/SIN-AKL-LAX?

Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:39 pm

UAUA wrote:
Heard that it was doing very well. They were forced to stop. Why?


The grant of fifth-freedom rights to NW for service between OSA and SYD limited them to no more than 50% non-connecting capacity - the other 50% had to be connecting traffic between the US and Australia, or empty. Since nobody really wanted to fly between Australia and the US via Japan, even when NW offered outrageously cheap fares, they simply ignored the restriction. They were formally reprimanded by the Japanese Ministry of Transport in March 1993 for having carried more than 70% non-connecting load between Dec 1992 and Feb 1993, and eventually gave up the route (and, soon after, all their Australian routes) in the face of pressure from the Australian government as well.

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