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Will VLA return? Twin limits?

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:51 pm
by Vladex
Because of the 737 max problems and because engine makers are making much bigger and efficient engines that can't fit on twin jets but can fit on quad jets and electrification of transportation will make it much cheaper to travel but aviation can't go electric for many decades to come because of the weight of batteries , is this trifecta as to why quad jets are needed now or at least 5 years from now when new engines come?

747 was built for range and A380 was built for comfort and luxury but they can be much more efficient with much bigger engines which they never had. Yes they are not efficient now but bigger engines favor bigger jets, look at A321 which barely sold anything in the first 15 years but now is the best selling jet. The only argument against quad jets then is made by the monopolistic big state carriers that don't want to compete against smaller city state carriers that can use big airplanes to keep the competition honest. Moreover without VLA as a competitive tool , big state carriers will just crush any competition from their monopolistic and government legislated routes and hubs and quality will sink among other things. I think twin jets can't go any further and any improvement will bring diminishing returns and more problems than can be sustained.

Re: Will VLA return? Twin limits?

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:57 pm
by Antarius
The only argument against quad jets then is made by the monopolistic big state carriers that don't want to compete against smaller city state carriers that can use big airplanes to keep the competition honest


This is the ONLY argument? Right.

The 777X, 77W and 35K are VLA jets anyways. Quads are dead.

Re: Will VLA return? Twin limits?

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:05 pm
by ZaphodHarkonnen
Wat?

Quads lost because 4 engines are more expensive to operate than 2. And when modern twins are carrying as many or more than the original quads there's just no sense in operating quads.

While we may not have seen the point to point revolution that Boeing promised with the 787. We have seen a decrease in two or more stop routes. Airlines have one or many hubs and operate lots of non stop flights from there. An airport might end up being served by sever different other hubs.

As a kiwi an example of this would be Christchurch. Auckland is Air NZ's main hub. But you can get non stop from Christchurch to hubs like Sydney and Singapore.