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How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:25 am

I was searching for fares to Johannesburg or Cape Town considering I found out Royal Air Maroc is the African airline with the MOST US destinations at 4 (JFK IAD BOS & MIA) plus they serve YUL in Canada. For some reason being an African airline they don't fly to the biggest economy in Africa, South Africa and don't serve JNB or CPT at all! They fly to GRU & GIG which must be lower yielding than JNB or CPT especially with connecting traffic to North America (strategic location for a hub). Roayl Air Maroc should start JNB and CPT ASAP!
 
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Re: How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:34 am

Truthfully, this surprised me as well when I was looking at their network earlier today. When they join OW or sometime in the future when they receive more aircraft, they could begin flights to the Southern Africa region.

If AA wants CMN to be their “gateway to Africa” they’ll need more than what RAM has at the moment. There are destinations served by RAM in east and North Africa, but lacks a presence in the south.

If RAM were to launch JNB or CPT, one flying PHL-CMN-JNB/CPT could connect and travel less than flying PHL-LHR.
 
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Re: How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:39 am

RAM has long served Brazil to connect the large Arab immigrant diaspora in Brazil, while also offering connections to large points in Europe like France.

I don't believe RAM has ever served South Africa. Its Africa network is generally geared to West African Francophone markets that can be connected using narrowbodies.
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Re: How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:47 am

Also, by technicality, Ethiopian Airlines also serves 4 U.S. destinations: Chicago, New York, Washington IAD, and Houston later this year. They also serve Toronto in Canada.

And... if GRU & GIG must be "low yielding" like you say, you'd think they would've started a "more profitable" flight to JNB or CPT...
 
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Re: How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:11 am

Also remember that Africa is largely divided by religion. Morocco is located in the Islamic part of Africa, which is basically everything north of the Sahara. The whole shoreline from Egypt to Senegal is Islamic, as well as large parts of the Indian Ocean shoreline. Everything south of that, including South Africa, is Christian. This religious border has historically been the reason for many wars, most recently in Sudan when the Christian part of the country (now known as South Sudan) broke free from the Islamic part.

There is little demand between the Islamic and the Christian parts of Africa, so that might be why they don't fly this route.
 
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Re: How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:46 pm

The farthest south RAM goes is to LAD with a B787 if i'm not mistaken so South Africa is probably in the works if they are carrying so many transfer passengers between LAD and Europe already.
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Re: How come AT/Royal Air Maroc doesn't fly to South Africa!?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:28 pm

mercure1 wrote:
RAM has long served Brazil to connect the large Arab immigrant diaspora in Brazil, while also offering connections to large points in Europe like France.

I don't believe RAM has ever served South Africa. Its Africa network is generally geared to West African Francophone markets that can be connected using narrowbodies.


They have served JNB long ago, not sure when and for how long, but I believe it was also via somewhere else.

Have also thought with the AA announcement, that a RAM connection on to South Africa could be beneficial...could be the quickest OneWorld connection option between the US and South Africa, if not having to go through LHR...and since IB is now suspending JNB again, it could be a great option also to serve that area (North-Western Africa and Iberian Peninsula).

However, I did read something a while ago about some disagreements on certain fields between the SA and Moroccan governments.

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