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Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:57 am

Are they still in production? Have not heard anything about them.

The B777-200ER probably is? Heard that they were beefing it up a few years ago.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:08 am

I don’t think so.
I believe the 777 variant in production are -200LR/F, -300ER and soon the -9. The -8 IMHO is in doubt, but hopefully I’m wrong.
 
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:23 am

No, they are not in production anymore.
 
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:39 am

UAUA wrote:
The B777-200ER probably is? Heard that they were beefing it up a few years ago.

What need would they have to "beef it up" when the 772LR has long since been available?
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:56 am

As far as I am aware, the last -200ER was produced in 2013 for OZ to replace the aircraft lost at SFO.


LAX772LR wrote:
UAUA wrote:
The B777-200ER probably is? Heard that they were beefing it up a few years ago.

What need would they have to "beef it up" when the 772LR has long since been available?
The exact same frame with higher weights, wingtips, better engines, stronger tires, and more fuel capacity.


Were I to guess, I would say that the development of the 77L is the "beefing up" that the OP is referring to, although I'd put the 77L as more of a shrunk 77W than a "beefed up" 77E.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:01 am

IINM the last -200A built was JA773J, delivered in 2007 to JAL. Had the pleasure of flying on it back in April from Haneda to Fukuoka.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:18 am

Hi OP, no, they are no longer on offer. You can find the latest Boeing Commercial Airplanes being offered at their official website. https://www.boeing.com/commercial/

For B777 family first generation only B777-200LR, B777-200F and B777-300ER on offer, https://www.boeing.com/commercial/777/

B777-X will take on the baton once B77W production stops.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:27 am

UA735WL wrote:
although I'd put the 77L as more of a shrunk 77W than a "beefed up" 77E.

Which would be nonfactual, seeing as the 773 frame is a stretch of the 772 frame, not the other way around.

The frames were not changed despite the external differences between them and prior 777s.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:35 am

My understanding is that Boeing stopped offering the -200ER, -200A, and -300 once the -300ER and -200LR production hit full swing. I heard that one airline, I believe it was DL, wanted some more -22ERs and Boeing quoted an outrageous price for them, more than for the LRs. That may have been part of the decision to buy the LRs.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:58 am

LAX772LR wrote:

The frames were not changed despite the external differences between them and prior 777s.


You could argue it either way. When Boeing designed the longer-range 777s, they knew that the 777-300ER would take the majority of the orders. They also were going to make the 777F. So given that that they had to redesign the wing, wingtips, and wing box for the 777-300ER, they decided to use the same wing, wing box, wingtips, and engines (with a software derate) and make the 777-200LR as a niche aircraft. At the time, the 777-200ER was still in production and between that, the -F, and the -300ER, there were no parts exclusive to the 777-200LR. Given the trivial additional costs to develop that model and given that much of the testing could also be applied to the -F, Boeing went ahead with the -200LR. But I would say that the -300ER was the main thrust of that program and while the -200LR isn't a shrink, per se, it really isn't optimized around the platform.
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:53 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
UA735WL wrote:
although I'd put the 77L as more of a shrunk 77W than a "beefed up" 77E.

Which would be nonfactual, seeing as the 773 frame is a stretch of the 772 frame, not the other way around.

The frames were not changed despite the external differences between them and prior 777s.


Actually, it is factual. While the -300 was a stretch of the 200ER, The -200LR, was a "shrink" of the -300ER. They were developed at the same time but they wings and engines were designed for the 300ER ans then appplied to the short fusealage to also offer the small, longer range variant.
 
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Re: Are the B777-200/200ER/300 still in production?

Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:02 am

LAOCA wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
UA735WL wrote:
although I'd put the 77L as more of a shrunk 77W than a "beefed up" 77E.

Which would be nonfactual, seeing as the 773 frame is a stretch of the 772 frame, not the other way around.

The frames were not changed despite the external differences between them and prior 777s.


Actually, it is factual. While the -300 was a stretch of the 200ER, The -200LR, was a "shrink" of the -300ER. They were developed at the same time but they wings and engines were designed for the 300ER ans then appplied to the short fusealage to also offer the small, longer range variant.

That's not the definition of a shrink.

Nor was nearly anything you said, factual.

First off, the 77L/77W don't have a newly designed wing, just strengthened and with a wingtip device. That, and the GE engines, were designed for both aircraft in tandem... only APPLIED to the 77W first, not designed for it.
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