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Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:35 pm

Many 777 operators were happy sticking to the (now positively old) 777-200 series, and never bothered to upgrade, as it were, to the 777-300ER. Delta Air Lines is the most prominent example, as is Asiana Airlines. Of course, there is Malaysia Airlines, which retired all its aging 777-200ERs after the double disasters.

In addition, AA and UA held out on the 777-300ER for a long time, not taking delivery of it until the mid-2010s, while Aeroméxico retired its 777-200ERs in favour of 787s (not that they were cursed like the MH ones).

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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:04 pm

To add to your list:

Air Peace (777-300A, but no ER)
Austrian Airlines
Ceiba Interncontinental (White)
Crystal
El Al
Euroatlantic Airways
Iraqi Airways
Jin Air
MedView Airlines
Nok / NokScoot
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Turkmenistan Airlines
Ukraine International Airlines
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:17 pm

Royal Brunei also operated B772(ER) for a few years between the B763 retirement and the B788 introduction.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:24 pm

Asiana Airlines

-Rowen
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:15 am

UN(Transaero) is a prime example of this, since they bought lots of 772A/77E(ex-UA/SQ) and 773(ex-SQ), but no 77W.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:36 pm

You say "upgrade" as if it were an improved version, like going from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. But the 777-300ER is a bigger aircraft that carries more payload over a longer distance, and costs more to acquire. Delta and other airlines looked at their network and didn't see a need to operate such a large aircraft. Delta in particular does have the 777-200LR which has quite a bit of range, but isn't as big.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:56 pm

What about vice-versa? Did any airlines go straight to the 77W without ever having operated a previous model?
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:51 pm

alan3 wrote:
What about vice-versa? Did any airlines go straight to the 77W without ever having operated a previous model?


Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:03 pm

res77W wrote:
alan3 wrote:
What about vice-versa? Did any airlines go straight to the 77W without ever having operated a previous model?


Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen


Also EVA Air and China Airlines.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:33 pm

res77W wrote:
alan3 wrote:
What about vice-versa? Did any airlines go straight to the 77W without ever having operated a previous model?


Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen


But I think AC also has the 77L
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:19 pm

alan3 wrote:
res77W wrote:
alan3 wrote:
What about vice-versa? Did any airlines go straight to the 77W without ever having operated a previous model?


Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen


But I think AC also has the 77L


The 77W was introduced before the 77L IIRC.

-Rowen
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:21 pm

China Eastern Airlines also went straight to the 77W.

-Rowen
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:36 pm

hawaiian717 wrote:
You say "upgrade" as if it were an improved version, like going from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. But the 777-300ER is a bigger aircraft that carries more payload over a longer distance, and costs more to acquire. Delta and other airlines looked at their network and didn't see a need to operate such a large aircraft. Delta in particular does have the 777-200LR which has quite a bit of range, but isn't as big.


I’m sure the 77W would have been an excellent replacement for the older 744 that DL inherited from NW...


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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:53 pm

hawaiian717 wrote:
You say "upgrade" as if it were an improved version, like going from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. But the 777-300ER is a bigger aircraft that carries more payload over a longer distance, and costs more to acquire. Delta and other airlines looked at their network and didn't see a need to operate such a large aircraft. Delta in particular does have the 777-200LR which has quite a bit of range, but isn't as big.


Interesting that the 77W is "too big" for DL but not UA, AA or AC and despite DL having hubs at both the busiest airport in the country (ATL) and the largest city in the country (JFK).
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:16 pm

Fyano773 wrote:
I’m sure the 77W would have been an excellent replacement for the older 744 that DL inherited from NW...


Sure, if Delta felt it still had a need for a 747-400 sized aircraft. Apparently it didn't as it hasn't moved to acquire a replacement.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:32 am

hawaiian717 wrote:
res77W wrote:
alan3 wrote:
What about vice-versa? Did any airlines go straight to the 77W without ever having operated a previous model?


Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen


Also EVA Air and China Airlines.

And Aeroflot.
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:34 am

AirKevin wrote:
hawaiian717 wrote:
res77W wrote:

Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen


Also EVA Air and China Airlines.

And Aeroflot.


Aeroflot appears to have operated 2x B772s before the B77W (some photos) :)
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:08 am

TG788 wrote:
AirKevin wrote:
hawaiian717 wrote:
Also EVA Air and China Airlines.

And Aeroflot.

Aeroflot appears to have operated 2x B772s before the B77W (some photos) :)

Hmm....interesting. Wasn't aware of that. I stand corrected then.
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:58 pm

DL really should have ordered the 77W as a 744 replacement for DTW-Asia.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:34 pm

AirKevin wrote:
hawaiian717 wrote:
res77W wrote:

Air Canada, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Australia

-Rowen


Also EVA Air and China Airlines.

And Aeroflot.

And Garuda Indonesia.
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:40 pm

HP69 wrote:
DL really should have ordered the 77W as a 744 replacement for DTW-Asia.

Why do you think they should?
 
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Re: Airlines that operate(d) the 777 but not the 777-300ER.

Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:21 am

afterburner wrote:
AirKevin wrote:
hawaiian717 wrote:

Also EVA Air and China Airlines.

And Aeroflot.

And Garuda Indonesia.

Matter of fact about GA and the 777; they ordered the 777-200 back in the late 1990s but cancelled the order due to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

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