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Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:14 am

Dear all.

Will be flying to Bologna from Nairobi later this week through Istanbul.

I noticed the NBO to IST leg is just over 6 hours on a B737-800. Surely that’s touching the endurance capabilities of that aircraft?
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:22 am

No not really. Flew BKK to DXB at 08:23hrs (block time on NG) against the winds incl nearly 1hr holding and 1 missed approach. And yes with a good payload. (Not full) Also several routes out of DXB in excess of 6 hrs. flight time.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:24 am

I believe the longest currently (regularly scheduled) is Copa 737-800 PTY-EZE (6h 50m flight time, sometimes longer).
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:29 am

According to Wikipedia, the longest 737-800 regular nonstop commercial flight is Copa Airlines CM284 from Montevideo (MVD/SUMU) to Panama City (PTY/MPTO). About 7 hours 25 minutes.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:43 am

Gosh and there I was thinking the 800 was a five hour plane.
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:02 am

MileHFL400 wrote:
Gosh and there I was thinking the 800 was a five hour plane.


Those Copa flights definitely have some restrictions, although the fact that they don't have to deal with the east-west winds as much also helps them. Also with seatback IFE and free meals it's just like a widebody, minus an aisle. I mean the seats are the same width as those on the 757, 777 (10-abreast) and 787 so...
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:24 am

Flew AMS to Kathmandu once in a 737. Tui fly. Had a stop in Bahrain to take in fuel. That was long. I think it was a 800 but am not sure.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:25 am

Norwegian flies TOS-LPA which is about 7 hours with a nearly full plane, also DXB-OSL which is about 7,5 hours sometimes. I was cabin crew on these flights many times over the years. I liked these long flights, lots of sales and you had time to talk to passengers. Nice layovers too.
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:32 am

Transavia flies Amsterdam - Dubai with a 737, although on the return flight it makes a fuel stop in Burgas. Apparently Amsterdam - Dubai (with the winds) is possible, but Dubai - Amsterdam (against the winds) isn't.

Also Corendon Dutch Airlines will shortly be launching Amsterdam - Banjul - Natal. Netherlands to Brazil on a 737-800! Banjul is a fuel stop, they couldn't possibly make it non-stop. Still I believe it's a 10 hour flight or something like that.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:36 am

CRJ900 wrote:
Norwegian flies TOS-LPA which is about 7 hours with a nearly full plane, also DXB-OSL which is about 7,5 hours sometimes. I was cabin crew on these flights many times over the years. I liked these long flights, lots of sales and you had time to talk to passengers. Nice layovers too.


This reminds me, when Norwegian first started their 737 TATL flights to Newburgh and Providence they didn't yet have the 737MAX and the flights were performed on ordinary 737-800s. From what I've heard they had some seats blocked off to save weight, but still it was one of the longest flights for a 737 at the time.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:46 am

OA940 wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
Gosh and there I was thinking the 800 was a five hour plane.


Those Copa flights definitely have some restrictions, although the fact that they don't have to deal with the east-west winds as much also helps them. Also with seatback IFE and free meals it's just like a widebody, minus an aisle. I mean the seats are the same width as those on the 757, 777 (10-abreast) and 787 so...


That may be so but widebodies give you a greater feeling of space in my opinion.
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:48 am

FJ HNL-NAN is around 6.50, I think a mix of 73G/738, the 7M8 will fly this once they are back in service.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:38 am

afterburner wrote:
According to Wikipedia, the longest 737-800 regular nonstop commercial flight is Copa Airlines CM284 from Montevideo (MVD/SUMU) to Panama City (PTY/MPTO). About 7 hours 25 minutes.


NBO IST 2,586 nm
PTY MVD 2,941 nm

That same Wikipedia article states that the longest scheduled 737-MAX 8 is 3300 nmi, but Gol is using a 737-800 while the MAX is grounded
Brasília - Orlando; 3,300 nm - Gol Transportes Aéreos G3 7602

All three of those flights are north-south through the tropics. It is very easy to fly to Europe on a 737 Next Generation, but it is very difficult to fly back to the USA. A route that requires a fuel stop in Canada at Gander Airport on return is not necessarily dangerous, but it is highly unprofitable. If you are flying through the tropics both directions usually take the same amount of time.

I believe that the longest route flown by a USA airlines on a B738 is ANC-KOA on Alaskan airlines which is just under 2,500 nmi. So if you are used to flying the 738 on USA domestic flights you can be forgiven for thinking it is a 5 hour aircraft. Routes are much more difficult to operate at a profit if you are pushing the maximum range of the model. Usually, seats must be blocked on bad weather days, or in some case unplanned fuel stops must be made.

These are the six jet models that a USA airline has the distance record. You'll note that many of these models are predominately flown by US airlines. Ranges are given in km, nmi, and time
Boeing 767-400ER Jetliner Rome—Fiumicino Atlanta 8,105 4,376 11:10 Delta Air Lines DL 63
Boeing 777-200 Jetliner Chicago Honolulu 6,829 3,687 9:20 United Airlines UA 219
Boeing 777-200ER Jetliner Newark Hong Kong 12,979 7,008 16:00 United Airlines UA 179
Boeing 787-10 Jetliner Tel Aviv Newark 9,160 4,946 12:20 United Airlines UA 91
Airbus A321 Jetliner Boston San Francisco 4,352 2,350 6:49 JetBlue B6 133/333/633/833/1833
Embraer E175 Jetliner Madison, Wisconsin San Francisco 2,850 1,539 5:00 United Airlines UA 5780
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:03 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
Transavia flies Amsterdam - Dubai with a 737, although on the return flight it makes a fuel stop in Burgas. Apparently Amsterdam - Dubai (with the winds) is possible, but Dubai - Amsterdam (against the winds) isn't.

Also Corendon Dutch Airlines will shortly be launching Amsterdam - Banjul - Natal. Netherlands to Brazil on a 737-800! Banjul is a fuel stop, they couldn't possibly make it non-stop. Still I believe it's a 10 hour flight or something like that.


They are talking longest non stop
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:07 am

As I posted yesterday in the Australian thread for the month, yesterday's Malindo OD172 SYD-DPS had a flight time of 7:10hrs, B738 9M-LNM.

There's no way that took off with a decent payload from SYD!
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:15 am

Did JFK to seattle while back on a NG that was a 6 hour plus flight going against the wind
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:36 pm

QF744ER wrote:
As I posted yesterday in the Australian thread for the month, yesterday's Malindo OD172 SYD-DPS had a flight time of 7:10hrs, B738 9M-LNM.

There's no way that took off with a decent payload from SYD!

Virgin Australia is also serving this route with 738. Qantas used to serve this route with 738 as well, but now it is using A330.
 
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:04 pm

PacoMartin wrote:

That same Wikipedia article states that the longest scheduled 737-MAX 8 is 3300 nmi, but Gol is using a 737-800 while the MAX is grounded
Brasília - Orlando; 3,300 nm - Gol Transportes Aéreos G3 7602



The flight was going to be BSB-MCO nonstop with the MAX. Until the MAX fleet is flying once again, it is operated with the 737-800 with a tech stop at PUJ.
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:05 pm

OA940 wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
Gosh and there I was thinking the 800 was a five hour plane.


Those Copa flights definitely have some restrictions, although the fact that they don't have to deal with the east-west winds as much also helps them. Also with seatback IFE and free meals it's just like a widebody, minus an aisle. I mean the seats are the same width as those on the 757, 777 (10-abreast) and 787 so...


Only about half of the Copa 737-800 fleet has seat back screens and chargers. I flew ORD-PTY on an older one without screens, chargers, or even a Sky interior (legacy black overhead panels). A Marvel movie played on the drop down screens, as well as a single Big Bang Theory episode. There was no WiFi, and the audio was accessed through the armrest. The seats were cloth with adjustable headrests, like a Continental 737 interior. They did serve free meals, though, including on my 90-minute PTY-UIO connection
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Re: Longest scheduled B737-800 NG flight?

Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:28 pm

    Spetsnaz55 wrote:
    Did JFK to seattle while back on a NG that was a 6 hour plus flight going against the wind

    SEA/MIA is 2724 miles so while not the longest, it's farther than some of the others listed
     
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    Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:12 pm

    ER757 wrote:
      Spetsnaz55 wrote:
      Did JFK to seattle while back on a NG that was a 6 hour plus flight going against the wind

      SEA/MIA is 2724 miles so while not the longest, it's farther than some of the others listed


      SEA-JFK is 2104 nautical miles/ 2421 statute miles
      SEA-HNL is 2326 nautical miles/ 2677 statute miles
      SEA-MIA is 2367 nautical miles/ 2724 statute miles
      ANC-HNL is 2413 nautical miles/ 2777 statute miles
      ANC-KOA is 2498 nautical miles/ 2874 statute miles

      I believe that ANC-KOA is the longest route for a USA airline using a B738.

      Fairbanks is another 227 nautical miles north of Anchorage, but there are no nonstops to Hawaii. Next May American Airlines plans a Fairbanks to Dallas nonstop flight. I don't know what equipment they will use, but I am guessing an A321neo (since they already have 6).
      FAI-DFW is 2656 nautical miles / 3056 statute miles
       
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      Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:34 pm

      Ive often seen MIAT Mongolian Airlines 738s at Berlin Tegel, I dare say there is a stop or two along the way, Moscow I think might be one of them, but there are fair old trek from Ulan Bator to Berlin as a continous 737 flight.
       
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      Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:04 pm

      n729pa wrote:
      Ive often seen MIAT Mongolian Airlines 738s at Berlin Tegel, I dare say there is a stop or two along the way, Moscow I think might be one of them, but there are fair old trek from Ulan Bator to Berlin as a continous 737 flight.




      ULN FRA 3,587 nm

      ULN SVO 2,511 nm
      SVO BER 866 nm

      Only one stop is necessary. They do fly nonstop to Frankfurt which means they must use their 767.
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      Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:48 pm

      KFTG wrote:
      I believe the longest currently (regularly scheduled) is Copa 737-800 PTY-EZE (6h 50m flight time, sometimes longer).


      PTY-SFO is a little longer I believe...
      So AFAIK Copa's longest 738 current routes are: SFO, EZE, ROS, GIG and SCL, all over 6hs.
       
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      Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:47 pm

      ojjunior wrote:
      KFTG wrote:
      I believe the longest currently (regularly scheduled) is Copa 737-800 PTY-EZE (6h 50m flight time, sometimes longer).


      PTY-SFO is a little longer I believe...
      So AFAIK Copa's longest 738 current routes are: SFO, EZE, ROS, GIG and SCL, all over 6hs.


      You´re missing the longest one...PTY-MVD...
       
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      Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:14 am

      vuelti24 wrote:
      ojjunior wrote:
      KFTG wrote:
      I believe the longest currently (regularly scheduled) is Copa 737-800 PTY-EZE (6h 50m flight time, sometimes longer).


      PTY-SFO is a little longer I believe...
      So AFAIK Copa's longest 738 current routes are: SFO, EZE, ROS, GIG and SCL, all over 6hs.


      You´re missing the longest one...PTY-MVD...

      Which I have ALREADY mentioned in my post above.
       
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      Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:08 am

      PacoMartin wrote:
      n729pa wrote:
      Ive often seen MIAT Mongolian Airlines 738s at Berlin Tegel, I dare say there is a stop or two along the way, Moscow I think might be one of them, but there are fair old trek from Ulan Bator to Berlin as a continous 737 flight.




      ULN FRA 3,587 nm

      ULN SVO 2,511 nm
      SVO BER 866 nm

      Only one stop is necessary. They do fly nonstop to Frankfurt which means they must use their 767.
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      I flew it a few months ago, ULN-TXL with a short stop in Moscow, no IFE (just overhead drop downs), but a comfortable and busy flight

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