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Retro liveries we’ll (likely) never see

Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:49 am

One that I can start with for sure is Cathay Pacific’s ‘70’s through ‘90’s green with a white striped tail (lettuce sandwich)


With the Union Jack on the tail, red lettered font and polished lower fuselage it was a particularly handsome look.


And with its colonial roots it’s a paint scheme we will never see ‘retro‘d’ for fear of offending Beijing


Shame


Another one I predict won’t be resurrected is Continental’s gold, red and white look from a similar time period


I think for a different reason though, too many people would relate it to the misery of the Frank Lorenzo era


Others that won’t be reincarnated ?
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am

Max Q wrote:
One that I can start with for sure is Cathay Pacific’s ‘70’s through ‘90’s green with a white striped tail (lettuce sandwich)


With the Union Jack on the tail, red lettered font and polished lower fuselage it was a particularly handsome look.


And with its colonial roots it’s a paint scheme we will never see ‘retro‘d’ for fear of offending Beijing



I heard this was actually in the works, but the current administration of CX wanted to move towards a unified look. It was the same time when the Spirit of Hong Kong aircraft went away.
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:18 am

Swissair's last livery.
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:27 am

SAA blue and orange- remnants of apartheid governments.
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:50 am

1930s-mid 40s Lufthansa? Pretty sure that's one of them.
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:56 am

eta unknown wrote:
SAA blue and orange- remnants of apartheid governments.



I can understand why, shame as that was an awesome livery, I particularly remember the anti glare paint under the cockpit windows
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:57 am

Philippine Airlines 1970-1987 livery during Marcos-era.
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:10 am

Gulf Air
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:24 am

80-90s Air New Zealand.
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:44 am

1970s-1991 Aeroflot
1932-1945 Lufthansa
Any Continental (once the current retro goes away) or any Northwest.
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:23 am

The Trump Shuttle although I wish they would.
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:03 pm

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Gulf Air


Here we go:

 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:21 pm

A bunch of them:
JAL (Including Japan Transocean Air, Japan Asia, JAL Reso'cha):




Thai:

Garuda(They have retro liveries, but not this one in particular):

Air Asia(Especially their pre-LCC era livery):

Asiana:

United:
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:27 pm

- AirTran heritage
- Northwest anything...
- American metallic livery
So... when will the Northwest DC-9s be retired?
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:28 pm

Delta's Widget livery?
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:26 pm

debonair wrote:
wezgulf3 wrote:
Gulf Air


Here we go:



Right, but...the one odd thing I don't understand about this so-called retro livery is that the gold stripe is inaccurate! With that livery at that time, it was purple!! Why they've done it as gold is beyond me.
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:53 pm

cathay747 wrote:
debonair wrote:
wezgulf3 wrote:
Gulf Air


Here we go:



Right, but...the one odd thing I don't understand about this so-called retro livery is that the gold stripe is inaccurate! With that livery at that time, it was purple!! Why they've done it as gold is beyond me.


The reason I said Gulf Air was because it’s not accurate, the Gold replaces the Purple which is omitted as that represented Qatar. Because of the fall out in the Middle East , Gulf Air replaced the purple with gold.

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Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:19 pm

Gulfstream500 wrote:
- AirTran heritage
- Northwest anything...
- American metallic livery


N921NN has the bare-metal AA paint.
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:22 pm

SAS - multi coloured flag design
Air Lanka -peacock livery
Air Canada - red livery (as in Tristar livery) would look nice on a 777 or 787 I think

Never will see

Pan Am...unlike some retro attempts we've seen from the likes of AA with TWA, no one took them over, so never likely to reappear.
British Caledonian. ... not likely to see that one either
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:39 pm

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The Trump Shuttle although I wish they would.



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Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:53 pm

debonair wrote:
wezgulf3 wrote:
Gulf Air


Here we go:




Ok, but this is a retro livery we ARE seeing again..
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:08 am

Any of the older united liveries (minus that A320)
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:04 am

TheEuphorian wrote:
Asiana:

United:


Why not these two? I can see both of these airlines using these retro liveries. UA not so soon, but eventually.

Gulfstream500 wrote:
- Northwest anything...


:checkmark: :checkmark:

A pity. I do wonder how the A330 or A350 would look in bowling shoe livery.

I'm also pretty confident that nobody will ever be painting an aircraft in the PA livery. The trademark is now owned by a rail company and even if they would give an airline permission to use the logo, which one would it be? PA went belly-up. They were liquidated. UA could claim some PA lineage since they got a lot of their routes and aircraft, but I can't imagine UA doing a PA retro livery. It would be too confusing.
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:47 am

Northwest anything. Delta definitely for whatever reason doesn't want to honor Northwest or bring up anything from their past. In comparison AA does a fantastic job of honoring the airlines that make up them today and UA at least does better than Delta in the sense they have a United stars & bars livery A320 along with a retro Continental 737.

I guess the only thing "Northwest" remaining aside from former employees, aircraft, hubs, and maintenance facilities is Compass Airlines and their livery (although they got the Trans States treatment) and indirectly Endeavor Air.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:01 am

Singapore Airlines. Oh wait...

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Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:24 am

TheFlyingDisk wrote:
Singapore Airlines. Oh wait...





Hasn’t changed much

A true classic livery, handsome yet understated


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Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:35 pm

DeltaConnection wrote:
Northwest anything. Delta definitely for whatever reason doesn't want to honor Northwest or bring up anything from their past. In comparison AA does a fantastic job of honoring the airlines that make up them today and UA at least does better than Delta in the sense they have a United stars & bars livery A320 along with a retro Continental 737.

I guess the only thing "Northwest" remaining aside from former employees, aircraft, hubs, and maintenance facilities is Compass Airlines and their livery (although they got the Trans States treatment) and indirectly Endeavor Air.


Right about NW and sadly I seriously doubt they'd do Western either; DL seems to be of the mindset to no do any more after that anniversary livery on the 767. Would LOVE to see a widebody in the WA Indian Head livery!!!
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Virgin America since AS couldn't repaint those red tails fast enough!
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Delta's Widget livery?



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Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:38 am

I don’t think we’ll see CP Air’s incredible silver and orange livery reincarnated

I think Air Canada would be their ‘heir’ ?
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Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:16 pm

TheEuphorian wrote:
Garuda(They have retro liveries, but not this one in particular):

IIRC, when changing its livery to the current one, Garuda intentionally left one 737 with this kind of livery unchanged, making it "retro". Now I think the aircraft has been returned back to the lessor.
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:40 pm

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I don’t think we’ll see CP Air’s incredible silver and orange livery reincarnated

I think Air Canada would be their ‘heir’ ?


Yes, AC is the heir, and I sadly have to agree with you, I bet they'd never do that. How glorious it would be though to see a big orange & red bird again!! One of my most favorite liveries ever. Remember their slogan?... "Orange is beautiful"
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Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:16 pm

cathay747 wrote:
Max Q wrote:
I don’t think we’ll see CP Air’s incredible silver and orange livery reincarnated

I think Air Canada would be their ‘heir’ ?


Yes, AC is the heir, and I sadly have to agree with you, I bet they'd never do that. How glorious it would be though to see a big orange & red bird again!! One of my most favorite liveries ever. Remember their slogan?... "Orange is beautiful"



Agree, the livery was stunning, don’t remember the slogan but I’ll look it up !
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Gulfstream500 wrote:
- AirTran heritage


Southwest is never going to do anything to acknowledge that AirTran (or ATA or Morris or Muse) ever existed.
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:00 am

Max Q wrote:
I don’t think we’ll see CP Air’s incredible silver and orange livery reincarnated
I think Air Canada would be their ‘heir’ ?


I agree wholeheartedly. The livery was spectacular on the DC-8-63 and 727-200. It made an already handsome aircraft look even more sleek. The livery was merely amazing on the 727-100, 737-200/300, DC-8-43/53 and 767-200 (just ever made it as as model) and the DC-3.

But. IMHO, it never seemed to work on the widebodies. The proportions always seemed kind of “clunky” and the motion mark on the DC-10’s tail was too small. Also, the “CPAir” should have been under the cockpit windows like the rest of the fleet, which might have balanced the sea of silver/grey on the 747s and DC-10s.
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 am

cathay747 wrote:
Yes, AC is the heir, and I sadly have to agree with you, I bet they'd never do that. How glorious it would be though to see a big orange & red bird again!! One of my most favorite liveries ever. Remember their slogan?... "Orange is beautiful"


AC seems reluctant to bring back any old liveries, even their own classics. I find that odd, as they virtually invented the retrojet in 1997 with the TCA A319, which is a source of pride among employees as it is continually repainted and restored.

During the “Orange is beautiful” ad campaign, CP also had a very cool TV Ad .....

Two Native Canadians were discussing one’s recent trip across Canada. He drew a (perfect, btw) outline of a DC-8 in the sand. “Ahhh” said one, “you travelled on the great silver bird”. “Actually” the other said, looking into the camera “it was orange”.
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longhauler wrote:
Max Q wrote:
I don’t think we’ll see CP Air’s incredible silver and orange livery reincarnated
I think Air Canada would be their ‘heir’ ?


I agree wholeheartedly. The livery was spectacular on the DC-8-63 and 727-200. It made an already handsome aircraft look even more sleek. The livery was merely amazing on the 727-100, 737-200/300 and 767-200 (just ever made it as as model) and the DC-3.

But. IMHO, it never seemed to work on the widebodies. The proportions always seemed kind of “clunky” and the motion mark on the DC-10’s tail was too small. Also, the “CPAir” should have been under the cockpit windows like the rest of the fleet, which might have balanced the sea of silver/grey on the 747s and DC-10s.




Interesting, I always thought their livery was stunning on their DC10’s and 747’s
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:20 am

Another livery we won’t see again but was totally unique and very handsome was Condor and their polished aluminum with bright yellow tail on their Classic 747 and DC10’s in the seventies and eighties
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Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:29 pm

Max Q wrote:
Interesting, I always thought their livery was stunning on their DC10’s and 747’s


I think I have strange taste in liveries, as a lot more share your sentiment than mine. :lol:

I recently stated that I like the new Flair Air paint scheme on a different site and the response would have been less vocal had I suggested I should feed frozen puppies into a wood chipper while wearing a Hitler costume!
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longhauler wrote:
Max Q wrote:
Interesting, I always thought their livery was stunning on their DC10’s and 747’s


I think I have strange taste in liveries, as a lot more share your sentiment than mine. :lol:

I recently stated that I like the new Flair Air paint scheme on a different site and the response would have been less vocal had I suggested I should feed frozen puppies into a wood chipper while wearing a Hitler costume!



Well, as long as they’re frozen..



Since you brought up wood chippers, many years ago an Eastern pilot was convicted for murdering his wife


He attempted to dispose of her body by putting it through one


When I flew short haul on the 727 at the end of a long day it was ‘as the Eastern pilot said, one more leg to go’


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Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:10 pm

AB330 wrote:
Philippine Airlines 1970-1987 livery during Marcos-era.

They did revive the "Love Bus" nose art on the A359 though...the A300 pic below was after the regime change. Come to think of it, that whole "Love Bus" scheme would fit the A338N quite well (it being closest to the A300 sizewise) if ever PR orders it. :wink2: Then they could remove the artwork from the A359. That's three hurdles to overcome :alert:



OTOH, given that PR passed up on the very retro livery above at right for the ex-IB A340s on their 75th anniversary :old: perhaps they'd have a change of heart come their 80th :?:
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Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:38 pm

Slightly different take, but we won't see any Braniff, Eastern, or Aloha retro-liveries because they went out of business. They weren't acquired (i.e., AirCal by AA; the AirCal retro 737).

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