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Strange pricing of UK to USA flights

Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:18 pm

Why is , for example, a flight from LHR to SFO or LAX via DFW or PHX cheaper than the first leg part of the flight from LHR to DFW or PHX??
What is to stop a passenger flying to DFW or PHX and then not joining the 2nd leg, and the same on the return?
So how can the 2 flights be cheaper than the 1?!
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Re: Strange pricing of UK to USA flights

Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:28 pm

It is VERY common. There are websites out there dedicated to such ticket (it is call skiplagging).

As for whether a pax can simply not fly to the final destination on a ticket, usually on a round trip, once you miss one flight the airline usually cancelled the rest of the itinerary. Doing it one-way is usually ok, though.
 
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Re: Strange pricing of UK to USA flights

Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:31 pm

One way and without baggage (if an immediate connection). Simple answer is there is more competition to SFO versus DFW/PHX so flights are cheaper.
 
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Re: Strange pricing of UK to USA flights

Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:14 pm

eta unknown wrote:
Simple answer is there is more competition to SFO versus DFW/PHX so flights are cheaper.


Exactly. Nonstop between London and Phoenix you have two options but they're both in the same transatlantic joint venture, so it's not really competitive: British Airways and American.

From San Francisco you have British Airways, Norwegian, United, and Virgin Atlantic. From Los Angeles there is even more competition: Air New Zealand, American, British Airways, Norwegian, United, and Virgin Atlantic.

The connecting options LHR-PHX/DFW-SFO/LAX are cheaper because airlines price by market. You're not paying to fly from London to Phoenix, then Phoenix to San Francisco. Rather you're paying to fly from London to San Francisco and just happen to be changing planes in Phoenix. London to San Francisco is a more competitive market so prices will be lower.

You might find it cheaper to fly someone like Delta from London to Phoenix, with a connection somewhere like Minneapolis, then it is to take the BA or AA nonstop flights. The reason being that Delta, which can only offer connecting service, may price lower than AA/BA which can command a premium price for their nonstop flights.
 
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Re: Strange pricing of UK to USA flights

Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:36 pm

hawaiian717 wrote:
You might find it cheaper to fly someone like Delta from London to Phoenix, with a connection somewhere like Minneapolis, then it is to take the BA or AA nonstop flights. The reason being that Delta, which can only offer connecting service, may price lower than AA/BA which can command a premium price for their nonstop flights.


My father flies to Ethiopia about once a year to visit family. From YVR, Ethiopian's nonstop option via YYZ is about $400 CAD more than connecting via Frankfurt on Lufthansa. Price of the YVR-YYZ segment aside, I wonder if the sheer length of the YYZ-ADD segment factors into the higher cost (more fuel = more expense).

Though, I'm not entirely sold on that premise even considering Canada's shakedown airport fees. Connecting itineraries can bring down the price of a ticket. Compare an Alaska/Emirates YVR-SEA-DXB itinerary with a YVR-SEA-DXB-DEL itinerary. If you continue to Delhi it can be $700+ CAD less for a "Saver" roundtrip ticket. You also see this if you connect via LAX on WestJet/Emirates.

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