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Visiting the US after North Korea

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:05 pm

Has anyone who has been to North Korea, for example the Wonsan Air Festival and aviation tours to Pyongyang, then had issues getting approval to travel to the US ?

Many thanks for any replies.
 
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PatrickZ80
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:34 pm

In theory it shouldn't be a problem, plenty of people have visited North Korea and have been accepted to the US afterwards. But with the US you never know, so it can't be guaranteed.
 
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:38 am

If you've been in North Korea after 2011, you may not enter with ESTA, but you'll need a real visa. Somewhere in August 2019 this rule was imposed, before that there have been no restrictions.

I was in North Korea in October 2017 and have been in May 2019 in the US with ESTA without a problem. Interestingly, my ESTA is still shown as valid online. So I am not sure if the rule is valid only for new ESTA-applications or retroactively voids my ESTA (not that I care too much, as I'm not planning to travel to the US anyway at the moment).
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:36 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
In theory it shouldn't be a problem, plenty of people have visited North Korea and have been accepted to the US afterwards. But with the US you never know, so it can't be guaranteed.


I've had trouble entering the U.S. from Canada.

(I'm a U.S. citizen.)
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:03 am

Airstud wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
In theory it shouldn't be a problem, plenty of people have visited North Korea and have been accepted to the US afterwards. But with the US you never know, so it can't be guaranteed.


I've had trouble entering the U.S. from Canada.

(I'm a U.S. citizen.)


Preclearance or by land? Land borders are awful for everyone (and the CBSA folks going the other way are often even worse - more than once they’ve assumed that because I live in Tennessee I must have guns in the car). The preclearance CBP officers tend to be good.
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:22 am

Cubsrule wrote:
Airstud wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
In theory it shouldn't be a problem, plenty of people have visited North Korea and have been accepted to the US afterwards. But with the US you never know, so it can't be guaranteed.


I've had trouble entering the U.S. from Canada.

(I'm a U.S. citizen.)


Preclearance or by land? Land borders are awful for everyone (and the CBSA folks going the other way are often even worse - more than once they’ve assumed that because I live in Tennessee I must have guns in the car). The preclearance CBP officers tend to be good.


Pre-clearance... at Pearson. :boggled:
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:06 am

Airstud wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
In theory it shouldn't be a problem, plenty of people have visited North Korea and have been accepted to the US afterwards. But with the US you never know, so it can't be guaranteed.


I've had trouble entering the U.S. from Canada.

(I'm a U.S. citizen.)
Here's something to remember. If you're a US citizen, they have to let you back into the country. They may screw with you, but there's no way that they can't let you enter. They are just trying to rile you to see if you're hiding something. I know many of the CBP officers at DTW and they've told me this.
 
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:34 pm

I applied for an ESTA travel authorization after I've been to North Korea. I was asked for further explanation about my visit of North Korea which I provided.
Nevertheless, my travel with ESTA was not authorized.

Now I have to apply for a visa or I have to wait for the time when this might change again.
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Re: Visiting the US after North Korea

Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:00 pm

Remember when I arrived JFK (or was it ORD?) with a well used passport, bearing a stamp from Riyadh on one side of a page and Tel Aviv at the other - with the TLV stamp being a couple of weeks younger. This baffled the CBP agent to the point I was pulled aside and asked stupid questions for an hour. That the geographical knowledge of the interviewing CBP officer could be written on the back of a small stamp, didn't make it any easier. Nor did the fact my passport was adorned with multiple entry/exit stamps from Turkey, Bahrain, UAE and Qatar.

The temptation to concoct a story of international intrigue, playing the part of a Scandinavian James Bond, was immense. But since I didn't really fancy seeing the inside of a US jail, let alone one on a Caribbean island not far from Florida, I refrained.
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