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Singapore Airlines' best-performing European routes?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:33 pm

I always wondered which of the European routes of SQ has the best yields (or worst). I fly from London many times a year and the outbound flight SQ317 is half empty (I wonder if all 4 flights daily from London are like this).

Copenhagen, Paris, London, Manchester, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Munich, Milan, Rome, Moscow, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Stockholm, Zurich, Istanbul.

No idea why SQ couldn't make the likes of Berlin, Athens, or Madrid work.
 
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Re: Singapore Airlines' best-performing European routes?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:48 pm

Athens and Berlin are operated under the Scoot brand due to exceptional leisure traffic profiles.
 
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Re: Singapore Airlines' best-performing European routes?

Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:42 am

Hamburg would be a great addition for Singapore Airlines. Hamburg - Singapore is a pretty busy route for being offline -- 51.000 passengers in 2018, thats not much less than DUS with a nonstop-flight, thats a PDEW of 70. In 2019 from January through October passenger numbers grew almost 14% compared to 2018.

The share of passengers traveling for Business between HAM and SIN is at 36%, SIN being a big Hub for SQ opens up even more markets from HAM in east/southeast Asia and oceania with combined passenger numbers of more than 250,000 passengers a year (oneway).
Also they would be the only Airline offering a nonstop-flight to the far east from HAM, which would be a huge advantage, many Destinations could be offered with only one stop instead of two. Also, for Lufthansa this would be a great way to really compete against Emirates in Hamburg.
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:30 pm

DLHAM wrote:
Hamburg would be a great addition for Singapore Airlines. Hamburg - Singapore is a pretty busy route for being offline -- 51.000 passengers in 2018, thats not much less than DUS with a nonstop-flight, thats a PDEW of 70. In 2019 from January through October passenger numbers grew almost 14% compared to 2018.

The share of passengers traveling for Business between HAM and SIN is at 36%, SIN being a big Hub for SQ opens up even more markets from HAM in east/southeast Asia and oceania with combined passenger numbers of more than 250,000 passengers a year (oneway).
Also they would be the only Airline offering a nonstop-flight to the far east from HAM, which would be a huge advantage, many Destinations could be offered with only one stop instead of two. Also, for Lufthansa this would be a great way to really compete against Emirates in Hamburg.


The years go by and the German government refuses to allow any meaningful allocation of slots to airlines that might bring competition to the funnelling of traffic through MUC/FRA on LH. The list is a long one of airlines wishing to enter the next tier cities in Germany with direct routes and offer more choice to consumers, but being refused on the lobbying of Lufthansa. Pretty pathetic of the Bundestag as it preaches free trade for its exports.
 
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Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:24 pm

eurotrader85 wrote:
DLHAM wrote:
Hamburg would be a great addition for Singapore Airlines. Hamburg - Singapore is a pretty busy route for being offline -- 51.000 passengers in 2018, thats not much less than DUS with a nonstop-flight, thats a PDEW of 70. In 2019 from January through October passenger numbers grew almost 14% compared to 2018.

The share of passengers traveling for Business between HAM and SIN is at 36%, SIN being a big Hub for SQ opens up even more markets from HAM in east/southeast Asia and oceania with combined passenger numbers of more than 250,000 passengers a year (oneway).
Also they would be the only Airline offering a nonstop-flight to the far east from HAM, which would be a huge advantage, many Destinations could be offered with only one stop instead of two. Also, for Lufthansa this would be a great way to really compete against Emirates in Hamburg.


The years go by and the German government refuses to allow any meaningful allocation of slots to airlines that might bring competition to the funnelling of traffic through MUC/FRA on LH. The list is a long one of airlines wishing to enter the next tier cities in Germany with direct routes and offer more choice to consumers, but being refused on the lobbying of Lufthansa. Pretty pathetic of the Bundestag as it preaches free trade for its exports.


Thats true! As a consequence LH looses a lot of passengers from Hamburg especially to Oceania, but also many places in the Far East because passengers prefer Emirates. Who wants to connect twice going the long way to SYD, MEL or AKL if theres an offer with only one stop? LH could challenge Emirates in Hamburg with a nonstop-flight SIA-HAM by SQ (Joint Venture) -- but they seem to just leave it to them.

Next thing will be Qatar coming to HAM, lets see what happens then. This means Oneworld entering the HAM-Far East/Oceania market ... As long as QR will still be part of OW by then of course. Maybe this would bring Lufthansa out of their Shell.
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Re: Singapore Airlines' best-performing European routes?

Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:34 pm

DLHAM wrote:
eurotrader85 wrote:
DLHAM wrote:
Hamburg would be a great addition for Singapore Airlines. Hamburg - Singapore is a pretty busy route for being offline -- 51.000 passengers in 2018, thats not much less than DUS with a nonstop-flight, thats a PDEW of 70. In 2019 from January through October passenger numbers grew almost 14% compared to 2018.

The share of passengers traveling for Business between HAM and SIN is at 36%, SIN being a big Hub for SQ opens up even more markets from HAM in east/southeast Asia and oceania with combined passenger numbers of more than 250,000 passengers a year (oneway).
Also they would be the only Airline offering a nonstop-flight to the far east from HAM, which would be a huge advantage, many Destinations could be offered with only one stop instead of two. Also, for Lufthansa this would be a great way to really compete against Emirates in Hamburg.


The years go by and the German government refuses to allow any meaningful allocation of slots to airlines that might bring competition to the funnelling of traffic through MUC/FRA on LH. The list is a long one of airlines wishing to enter the next tier cities in Germany with direct routes and offer more choice to consumers, but being refused on the lobbying of Lufthansa. Pretty pathetic of the Bundestag as it preaches free trade for its exports.


Thats true! As a consequence LH looses a lot of passengers from Hamburg especially to Oceania, but also many places in the Far East because passengers prefer Emirates. Who wants to connect twice going the long way to SYD, MEL or AKL if theres an offer with only one stop? LH could challenge Emirates in Hamburg with a nonstop-flight SIA-HAM by SQ (Joint Venture) -- but they seem to just leave it to them.

Next thing will be Qatar coming to HAM, lets see what happens then. This means Oneworld entering the HAM-Far East/Oceania market ... As long as QR will still be part of OW by then of course. Maybe this would bring Lufthansa out of their Shell.


I believe QR have been one of the most vocal in wanting to add secondary German cities, including HAM, but the government has refused. Never mind the extra jobs it will create or the extra consumer choice as LH doesn't want it.
 
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Re: Singapore Airlines' best-performing European routes?

Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:27 pm

eurotrader85 wrote:
DLHAM wrote:
I believe QR have been one of the most vocal in wanting to add secondary German cities, including HAM, but the government has refused. Never mind the extra jobs it will create or the extra consumer choice as LH doesn't want it.


The Open Skies Agreement EU-Qatar is already on the works, just needs to be ratified, then Qatar can add more flights to Germany. But I read several times already that they will only be allowed 7 additional weekly flights per year. So they can only add one new Destination each year, assuming they want a daily flight. So it will take some time until they fly to DUS and HAM, also very likely that STR is on their list -- maybe when their A321LR come into their fleet. For HAM and DUS their 787 or A350 are perfectly fine.
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