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What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:24 pm

Just curious about your opinion. What is the ugliest commercial jet? I am not asking the most functional or poorest design....just the ugliest.


Imho I would vote for the A 380. I know many passengers love it, but as far as aesthetics it looks like a fat ungainly slug. Planes i think are attractive are the 757 (sleek like a race car), the 787-10 and the A 340. All beautiful birds in my opinion.


So what's your vote? Which commercial jet is the ugliest?
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:38 pm

I know it's heresy here, but I always thought the 757 was ugly. Tall gear, seemed scrawny, I know it's fine plane but it's just...not a pretty plane.

For a more a-net pleasing answer, I think the VFW Fokker 614 is pretty ugly - I don't think it flew, I think the Earth rejected it! ;)
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:57 pm

I think the 767 is ugly. The lines do not seem to match and the front gear seems like an after thought. I saw the 328JET once flown by QX. I like high-wing jet aircraft usually but this one just looks silly.
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:15 pm

I would suggest the Airbus A310. Looks very lumbered and out of proportion to me. Seems a much older design than it actually is. It would also agree with the above in that the Dornier 328 jet is a strange looking thing, as are a lot of the shorter widebodies.
 
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:19 pm

The A318 just looks too short and plump for me.
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:25 pm

The Boeing 757. Hideous design. Long and skinny fuselage sat atop a set of long, spindly landing-gear legs. And then the horrendous fuselage design, with 2 different fuselage diameters ahead and aft of the wing. Always thought the wings look weird too, although the later addition of winglets helped that.
 
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:13 pm

Two British jets stand out for me in this category, the Trident, and BAC 1-11. The Trident looked awkward, the nose gear is off center due to the sideways deployment, the engines are too small, the S inlet is a triangular shape, and the add-on rocket booster looked so out of place. The 1-11 sat very low to the ground, and the hush kitted Rolls engines looked like stove pipes!

For the USA it's the 737-900. It has been stretched beyond imagination, it sits too low to the ground, and needs a tail stand!

The 757-300 is too long and skinny. The DC-10 always looked awkward to me as well, with the tail on top of the 3rd engine.

I'm not picking on Russia, but I think the IL-62 is ugly, if not scary looking. Also, the TU-154, and TU-134 look angry in my opinion.

The A380 just looks fat, nothing elegant about the appearance. Someone described it as the "vagina" plane, ugly on the outside, but nice inside!

If we include turbo props, the Shorts 330 takes the cake!

I think the 777, 787, DC-9-30, Airbus A330, 340, and 350 are attractive designs. I love the L-1011, and the 747-400 designs, definitely classics!
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:26 pm

VFW 614
What an ugly jet...
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:29 pm

VFW 614 ... WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE THEY THINKING ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFW-Fokker_614
 
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:13 pm

crjflyboy wrote:
VFW 614 ... WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE THEY THINKING ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFW-Fokker_614


I wasn’t there... But it seems like it’s been a mixture of politics, Western Germany glorious times, money, hey let’s give it a try mentality and being naive.

Perhaps some people would say...ahead of its time.

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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:24 pm

bluestreak wrote:
Two British jets stand out for me in this category, the Trident, and BAC 1-11. The Trident looked awkward, the nose gear is off center due to the sideways deployment, the engines are too small, the S inlet is a triangular shape, and the add-on rocket booster looked so out of place. The 1-11 sat very low to the ground, and the hush kitted Rolls engines looked like stove pipes!

For the USA it's the 737-900. It has been stretched beyond imagination, it sits too low to the ground, and needs a tail stand!

The 757-300 is too long and skinny. The DC-10 always looked awkward to me as well, with the tail on top of the 3rd engine.

I'm not picking on Russia, but I think the IL-62 is ugly, if not scary looking. Also, the TU-154, and TU-134 look angry in my opinion.

The A380 just looks fat, nothing elegant about the appearance. Someone described it as the "vagina" plane, ugly on the outside, but nice inside!

If we include turbo props, the Shorts 330 takes the cake!

I think the 777, 787, DC-9-30, Airbus A330, 340, and 350 are attractive designs. I love the L-1011, and the 747-400 designs, definitely classics!



I agree with you. The L1011 was a beautiful bird. Also, the 744 always looked impressive to me, particularly fueled up for a long haul flight. I remember seeing many NW 744 at DTW ready to go to NRT or ICN. Majestic plane.
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:25 pm

I'd say the BAE-146 / Avro RJ series. Such a weird looking aircraft, not pretty at all. It's whole design is at odds with what an aircraft should look like.
 
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:29 pm

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The 757-300 is too long and skinny.


That's actually one of my favorite aircraft. For me, long and skinny is good. I like it that way.
 
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:37 am

I honestly think the 747-400 looks ungainly. I'm not sure what it is, maybe the winglets as I don't feel the same way about the 747-200 or 747-300.

"Shrinks" always look odd, but quite cute IMHO, like a puppy that will grow up one day! I'm thinking of the A310, A318, 737-600 and 747-SP.

The 328Jet just looks wrong. The prop looked quite well-proportioned, but the jet engines are just too big and out of proportion. It looks like a prop that had bad cosmetic surgery.

I don't see what others do in the 757. It is tall and lanky, like the kid in science club who got bullied in high school.
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:51 am

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The Boeing 757. Hideous design. Long and skinny fuselage sat atop a set of long, spindly landing-gear legs.


Yeah, definitely stork-like in that respect.

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And then the horrendous fuselage design, with 2 different fuselage diameters ahead and aft of the wing.


That was inherited directly from the 727, on which it was much less obvious. Going by various proposal models I've seen, the 757's main design criteria was "reuse as much of the 727 as possible" and it went through several different configurations before arriving at the final production one. If they'd only gone one step further and made the front part of the fuselage the deep part (up to the trailing end of the wing root) while making the aft part the same depth as a 737, they could have used much less spindly front landing gear plus they'd have gotten an area ruling benefit as well.

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Always thought the wings look weird too, although the later addition of winglets helped that.


In plan view yes, especially when compared to the more radical wing sweep of previous Boeing models, but on the ground not so much to me.
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:05 am

To me they're all beautiful

As a kid I thought the Avro looked ugly and today I absolutely love it
The quirky looking aircrafts are even more interesting to me
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:15 am

I can only speak for the western world. Don’t know as much about the Soviet Era planes...

Ugliest: The A380

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Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:15 am

I don't like the A380.

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Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:34 am

The Shorts 360 (or the Xbox 360 as me and a friend used to call it) looks very strange, though I can't outright hate it.
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Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:36 am

My favorite is the A330.
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Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:24 am

Can I joint the 757 pile-on? Matching the cockpit to the 767 meant the front always looks really odd.
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:21 am

Definitely A380 for me.
I agree about the front of the 757 the rest is fine just that nose section.
 
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:43 am

Can’t believe I’m going to type this but.... Concorde. I’m sorry I know. I should be shunned and stoned but with the nose down its just ugly. I hope I can redeem myself by saying nose up Concorde is the sleekest-sexiest thing I’ve ever seen.

Everyone saying the VFW 614 is ugly. IMO Ugly not really, weird 150% YEP.

But the A380 is hands down the ugliest, whale, abnormal hunchback of notre dam looking thing.
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:41 pm

How about the Convair 990 and its tumors... I mean speed pods on the wings.

Also no mention of the 747SP, that thing never looked right to me, proportions are just way off.
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Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:12 pm

For me it is the Baade 152...

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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:28 pm

The DC-10 / MD-11 series of plane. “Hey, guys... it won’t get off the ground; let’s slap another engine on and see what happens!”. Talk about an aeronautical example of “Mickey Mouse”! As for the Airbus A380, it looks like it wants to be longer. As it sits/flys, it looks ungainly.

(Off-topic: one of my favorite in appearance is the A340-500.)
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Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:32 pm

A380
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Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:36 pm

The 737 is a fugly plane. Especially the MAX. Talk about Frankenstein's creation :crazy:

Both the 737 and the 787 suffer from bizarrely short stubbly landing gear which make them look like a dachshund...

The Shorts 330 gets a special mention. Bizarre looking and incredibly noisy!
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Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:08 pm

I have to say the Yak42... Just looks unbalanced.

For western airliners I'll say the DC10 and MD11... #2 engine always look like it was added as an afterthought to me and never been a fan of the nose either.

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Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:10 pm

There are NO ugly aircraft!
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:44 am

The A380 is one of the ugliest aircraft of all time

The 787 looks weird, the nose seems chopped off and it sits way too close to the ground on its short, stubby gear


Why did Boeing do this again, didn’t they learn from the 737 that a tall gear always ‘pays off’

What will they do when a new generation engine with a much larger fan diameter is available for the 787 ?

Airbus has always been ahead of Boeing in this respect, using a tall landing gear across all types


This has paid off in spades on their A320 / A330 series which have been able to easily accept new, larger powerplants



Back to looks


The A350 looks great until you look at the vertical fin which appears far too small and out of proportion for the aircraft, and the forward trailing main landing gear looks all wrong
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Re: What in Your Opinion has been the Ugliest Commercial Jet?

Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:57 am

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I honestly think the 747-400 looks ungainly. I'm not sure what it is, maybe the winglets as I don't feel the same way about the 747-200 or 747-300.

I prefer 747s with short upper deck, not the stretched ones. 747-8F is beautiful, -8I not so. I also like the SP. It's short, stubby. But it's cute.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:20 pm

I'm not to fond of the 727. Three engines at the back just looks ungainly to me. The L1011 and DC-10 looked much better to me, though the way the L1011 tail engine joins in to the fuselage doesn't look wonderful.

The Dassault Falcon doesn't look very good to me either, since I'm talking about the tri-jets.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:19 pm

From the older lot of planes:

Beautiful/graceful: Boeing 707, VC-10, 747 classics, IL-62, Concorde, 727

Not so beautiful: DC-8, Caravelle, DC-10, L1011, 737-200
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:35 pm

The A380 is a butterface; everything looks pretty good but her face.

The CRJ-1000 is just an awful looking plane. It's an overstretch of a bird that was no swan at normal proportions.

The ERJ145 is also no looker, although the winglets on the XR help it quite a bit.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:05 pm

The 731 and 732 were just really stubby, funny-looking airplanes.

The A320 was pretty ugly (funny nose) before they added sharklets. That seemed to change the asthetic and distracts from the nose.

And I agree that the 757 nose was also a really strange-looking thing.

And then there's the bulbous, misshapen, stubby A380.
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:11 pm

787's. The nose is just so ugly.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:28 pm

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I know it's heresy here, but I always thought the 757 was ugly. Tall gear, seemed scrawny, I know it's fine plane but it's just...not a pretty plane.

For a more a-net pleasing answer, I think the VFW Fokker 614 is pretty ugly - I don't think it flew, I think the Earth rejected it! ;)


Funny - I hadn't even opened the thread and had the VFW-614 in my mind as a pretty ugly (though very cool at the same time) commercial jet. And here it is...at the very top. Good call!
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:32 pm

bgm wrote:
The Shorts 330 gets a special mention. Bizarre looking and incredibly noisy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_330

This was the first one I thought of - when I was a kid I remember seeing them and my Dad referring to them as "the flying boxcar"

For modern-day airliners, have to say the A380 - that big "forehead" is ugly as sin. But I can let it slide somewhat just because it's so damned HUGE that is is an impressive sight to behold while departing or on final for landing
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:42 pm

Ugly for me are the DC10, Shorts (I've flown on one!) and the 737-100 and 200.
Unlike others I like the low 737 looks (on the NG -800) and find the A320 too tall legged with too pointy a nose. The longer A321 and now having sharklets looks good.
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Chemist wrote:
Ugly for me are the DC10, Shorts (I've flown on one!) and the 737-100 and 200.
Unlike others I like the low 737 looks (on the NG -800) and find the A320 too tall legged with too pointy a nose. The longer A321 and now having sharklets looks good.
For me the 727 is the most gorgeous airliner other than the Concorde.

I like the A321 because it has a long sleek narrow body like the 757 (my personal favourite), the A320 looks odd for its height (as do the A318/9) but that height had the advantage of keeping it MCAS free when they attached the new bigger LEAP engine onto the wing.
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:39 am

The A380 is the only airliner I call ugly and that quite a lot. Acutally so much, that I am very pleased to see the first ones getting scrapped already.
 
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Prettiest: 707, 727, 737NG, 737 Max, 747, A340, DC-8, DC-10, MD-11, L-1011

Not so good: 737 Jurassic, 737 Classic, 757, BAC 111, Brabazon, Trident

Ugly: A380
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:21 pm

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The Boeing 757. Hideous design. Long and skinny fuselage sat atop a set of long, spindly landing-gear legs. And then the horrendous fuselage design, with 2 different fuselage diameters ahead and aft of the wing. Always thought the wings look weird too, although the later addition of winglets helped that.

I thought this at first but I have been converted by A.net! I think the A380 looks like a slug, and the Shorts 360 is just... too square.
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:47 pm

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I know it's heresy here, but I always thought the 757 was ugly. Tall gear, seemed scrawny, I know it's fine plane but it's just...not a pretty plane.


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Swiss4Ever wrote:
For me it is the Baade 152...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baade_152


It looked straight out of a cartoon!
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:06 am

I know people will hate me but I think the 757 is an ugly thing. The VFW-614 manages to be offensively ugly and takes the award but the 757 is skinny with its weird belly that doesn't match the top making the nose look malformed, I give it 2nd place.
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:13 am

Tu-334. It ever entered commercial service but was on sale. The plane was simply too thicc.
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