davidbrok5
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Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:16 pm

Hi there,

Currently doing some research into Boeing centralised around the 737 Max crashes. I really wanted to know if any of you knew of any other commercial aviation crashes like this in commerical aviation history?
i.e. 2+ separate incidents on the same plane as a result of the manufacturer and the same fault?
 
ChrisKen
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:04 pm

The list is fairly long, but the game changers in terms of accident investigation were the De Havilland Comet crashes ~1954.
 
CosmicCruiser
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:34 pm

Early 737s had a rudder PCU problem that resulted in several crashes.
 
BravoOne
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:25 pm

Check out the Lockheed Electra in the late 50's
 
WIederling
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:38 pm

Murphy is an optimist
 
collectairs
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:55 pm

The Lockheed Electra, the four engine turboprop version of the first produced in the late 1950s, had a rough start. As I recall, unbalanced propellers caused whirl mode flutter inflight which in some cases caused the engines to rip away from their mount.
 
BravoOne
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:20 pm

You could go back as far as the original Constellations and DC6's as I believe they both incurred groundings. The Connie was an electrical problem, and I believe the DC6 had a engine fire extinguishing issue along with a cabin heater problems resulting in catastrophic accidents. Airliners have come a long ways, but it was not a smooth ride in the beginning.
 
debonair
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:01 pm

The T-tail design was very problematic, e.g. for the BAC1-11:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_BAC_ ... test_crash
 
dfwjim1
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:51 pm

Any crash is a bad thing but fortunately safety advances come out of every accident.
 
Chemist
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Re: Were the 737 Max crashes a first of its kind?

Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:03 am

Many early 727s crashed on approach/landing, but as I remember the problem wasn't the plane, but differences in handling characteristics versus other airliners.

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