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Why did JL chance NRT-YVR from 788 to 763?

Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:24 am

With seeing JL's route network to US & Canada, the 763 only flies to YVR. YVR used to be served with a 788 but was changed to a 763 which is a older aircraft. What was the case for the aircraft downgrade on this route?
 
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Re: Why did JL chance NRT-YVR from 788 to 763?

Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:55 am

I'm guessing that it's because the JAL 787-8s with the old angled flat seats (JA821J, JA823J, JA824J, JA826J-JA835J) were completely removed from long-haul flying altogether, and the ones with the APEX suites (JA836J-JA845J) are extremely premium-heavy with only 88 seats in Y, not making it suitable for a less premium destination like YVR. If they ever decide to increase capacity, I'd guess that they would upgauge it to a 789.

The 763 isn't a downgrade (downgrade implies a change in quality of the product). The 763 actually has a better product, since the J seats go fully flat and offers direct aisle access for all J pax.
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Re: Why did JL chance NRT-YVR from 788 to 763?

Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:23 am

Also, JAL's 763's aren't that old, being from 2002-2013.

Why is it always "all 763's were built in 1986" on this dann site. Nobody says 737 = 1967 of A320 = 1987 on here :banghead: :banghead:
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Re: Why did JL chance NRT-YVR from 788 to 763?

Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:26 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
Also, JAL's 763's aren't that old, being from 2002-2013.

Why is it always "all 763's were built in 1986" on this dann site. Nobody says 737 = 1967 of A320 = 1987 on here :banghead: :banghead:


I'll admit I fall into that trap too :white: and often instinctively assume 767's are old.
Or in cases like this maybe they just seem like an older less desirable comparison to the 789's which AC and NH both fly on their competing Vancouver to Tokyo routes. JL do still fly a large number of 763's and it doesn't seem a retirement plan for them is underway yet?
 
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Re: Why did JL chance NRT-YVR from 788 to 763?

Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:57 pm

alan3 wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
Also, JAL's 763's aren't that old, being from 2002-2013.

Why is it always "all 763's were built in 1986" on this dann site. Nobody says 737 = 1967 of A320 = 1987 on here :banghead: :banghead:


I'll admit I fall into that trap too :white: and often instinctively assume 767's are old.
Or in cases like this maybe they just seem like an older less desirable comparison to the 789's which AC and NH both fly on their competing Vancouver to Tokyo routes. JL do still fly a large number of 763's and it doesn't seem a retirement plan for them is underway yet?


Not yet, and given their age I don't think they should need to for a while. However, the virus might speed it up :(

If only A320 CEO'S and 772's were held under the same perception :boggled: . I've flown on so many old A320's in both the AC and US 3 fleets, some from before the Wall fell, but the 763's I fly on are usually from 95-00 for some reason.
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