mga707 wrote:It was a joint venture of JAL and Aeroflot. Began around 1970, if memory serves. And a route through the 'Russian Far East' (which IS in Asia, BTW) is not a 'trans-Polar' route.
Wikipedia wrote:Cathay Pacific Flight 889 from New York John F. Kennedy International Airport, piloted by Captain Paul Horsting on 7 July 1998—the first arrival to the new Hong Kong International Airport at Chek Lap Kok west of Hong Kong—appears to be the first non-stop flight over the Arctic polar region and over Russian airspace. It was the world's first nonstop transpolar flight from New York to Hong Kong, dubbed Polar One.
SheikhDjibouti wrote:mga707 wrote:It was a joint venture of JAL and Aeroflot. Began around 1970, if memory serves. And a route through the 'Russian Far East' (which IS in Asia, BTW) is not a 'trans-Polar' route.
Slightly earlier than that if you are talking about these beauties, seen here in 1967 (note Japan Air Lines titles)
The basic problem I have is lack of clear definition from the OP.
Asia is a big place to aim for (LOL), and the departure point is equally vague.
And as already observed, the "Russian Far East" is itself also Asia. Take a look at Vladivostock, it is surprisingly proximate to China, North & South Korea, and Japan.
Meanwhile I guess many here (including the OP?) see this purely from a US-centric perspective , in which case we are looking at East Coast USA to eastern Asia (Thailand and beyond), or...West Coast USA to South Asia (India, Pakistan etc)
For much of what many consider as "Asia" (China, Japan, Vietnam etc), as soon as you take departures from Chicago or further west (e.g. LAX), the great circle routing flips to being via Canada & Alaska, maybe just grazing the southern tip of the Kamchatka peninsula. So these routes are neither Trans-polar, nor flying over significant portions of Soviet airspace. Note I'm not taking account of actual routings, nor the impact of ETOPS.
Not quite on topic but the first true Trans Polar route was in 1953, Los Angeles to Stockholm by SAS. I also remember seeing posters in the 1960s at LHR, the Europa Terminal 2, advertising SAS' "over the Pole' using DC8s.
For a true "straight over the North Pole" routing to Japan you really need a departure from YQX (Gander)
Likewise, KEF-Tokyo crosses vast areas of Arctic Ocean before meeting the equally desolate Russian far east en route to Japan.
And then if we carry on to mainland Europe, all flights to Japan largely follow the same route. Start at Madrid, overfly London or Paris, carry on past Oslo, Stockholm, Helsinki, and then ….Archangel and the great Russian north. Is that trans-polar enough?
Too many possibilities.
cedarjet wrote:You are too generous.I don’t think the OP is vague at all. Everyone knows that all flights ....
z1234 wrote:But then goes on to add...IT WAS NORTHWEST DTW-NRT on October 12th 1992:
NW was the first actual TPAC flight from a Western airline through Russian airspace.
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