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Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:02 pm

I flew ATL-STL back in January on Southwest. 80% full 73G, lots of connections. Of interest to me were ATL-STL-FLL (1 hour nonstop turned 5 hour trek) and IND-ATL-STL (4 hour drive). Why do people buy such routings, and do airlines restrict such sales on close-in cities? I've also flown the same route on Delta numerous times and seen MEM-ATL-STL more than once (5 hour drive).

What's the weirdest routing you have seen or flown?
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:02 pm

The other day I flew JNB-DXB-SYD on EK even though there was a nonstop available on QF (although much more expensive). So I ended up spending 22 hours in the air instead of just 13 or whatever it takes to get from JNB to SYD nonstop. That’s a detour of around 7.000 km.

While it’s definitely not nonsensical, I’ve once done TXL-LHR-SIN on BA. On the flight to SIN we literally flew right over TXL. It was nice seeing my hometown from FL370.

Once I also did ORD-LHR-TXL-FRA-YYZ-SCL because for me it was cheaper going that way. I had my trip from ORD to TXL booked already as the trip to South America came up. It ended up being cheaper by ~500€ booking TXL-SCL-TXL than booking ORD-SCL-TXL and pulling a no-show on ORD-LHR-TXL. Ironically the flight from ORD to LHR flew right over Toronto.
And what’s better for an avgeek than crossing the Atlantic twice in one day? :D
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:28 am

Some companies might require travel over say 5 or 6 hours to fly so if you need to go say IND-STL,MEM you might get some back tracking itenarary.

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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:32 pm

I have been looking at flight options for STL-SAN recently. One of the options on WN was STL-RDU-ATL-SAN (same plane STL-RDU-ATL, connect in ATL). The might be because of all the coronavirus schedule changes, but it goes pretty far east when the O-D is westbound. I ended up going STL-PHX-SAN since the nonstops have been cancelled.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:14 pm

ANC-SEA-JFK-SVO-PKC. I meet some bear hunters boarding an Aeroflot IL-96 one afternoon bound for Petropavlovsk. That would be their third night on a plane.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:34 pm

I feel very very tempted to fly IAH-MAN-SIN-PVG on SQ if the price is right.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:48 am

Ive done DEN-SFO-HKG-DUB-LCY to see the Texans play in London as part 1 of my RTW trip last year, of course spending a few days in HKG but the football game was the main reason to go. I then did LHR-SFO-SYD-CNS as part 2 to dive on the Great Barrier Reef.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:12 pm

Just remembered, my friend flew AMS-EWR-CDG to get back to Paris where he was getting his masters.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:28 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
Just remembered, my friend flew AMS-EWR-CDG to get back to Paris where he was getting his masters.

Are you sure he/she was not doing a mileage run?
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:37 pm

What possible route would be the most backtracking because it's the only way to go from point A to point B

I would think Alaska to anywhere in Russia would win. I know sometimes there is a flight to Russia, But besides that.

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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:17 pm

DTWLAX wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
Just remembered, my friend flew AMS-EWR-CDG to get back to Paris where he was getting his masters.

Are you sure he/she was not doing a mileage run?

Nope. My friends and I (all of our parents worked for UA at the time) went to Amsterdam for a weekend. And he didn't want to take the bus or train so he nonrev'd in J from AMS-CDG via EWR.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:23 am

Usually during the AFL Grand Final held in Melbourne, flights non-stop between Perth and Melbourne are so expensive that it is often cheaper to fly PER-SIN-MEL and v.v. Several friends and family have taken this routing over time.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:41 am

Well, I've done a few that were not exactly "along the way"

GIG-JFK-PHL-LAS AA (cheap mileage ticket for Biz Class)

DTW-BWI-LAS WN
FLL-MDW-LAS WN
DTW-MDW-LGA WN

LAS-DEN-SUN UA

I've had a co-worker go LAS-SFO-DAL as they enjoyed flying on Virgin America compared to going non-stop on WN or AA to DFW

And another which went LAS-SAN-TUS on WN instead of waiting for the non-stop, got there an hour earlier, left 4 hours earlier......
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:52 am

I did TLL-CPH-FRA-BRU-GVA once. Other interesting routings were

GVA-MAD-AGP-HEL-DEL and GVA-MAD-LHR-AMM-TLV
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:14 am

Some odd ones I have done either due to non-revving or because of other restrictions:
- PVG-LAX-BNA-CLT-MIA-LAX-NRT-PVG
- SIN-TPE-LAX-PHX-CLT-TLL-MIA-PHX-LAX-NRT-SIN
Nxt Flts: SQ SIN-KIX | HD UKB-CTS | NH CTS-NRT | SQ NRT-SIN | AK SIN-DPS-SIN
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:36 am

TWA772LR wrote:
DTWLAX wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
Just remembered, my friend flew AMS-EWR-CDG to get back to Paris where he was getting his masters.

Are you sure he/she was not doing a mileage run?

Nope. My friends and I (all of our parents worked for UA at the time) went to Amsterdam for a weekend. And he didn't want to take the bus or train so he nonrev'd in J from AMS-CDG via EWR.


that's quite a detour. I've taken the train between Amsterdam and Paris several times, and it's quite good (and reasonably priced if you book in advance).
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:56 am

Stuck in SEA during spring break as a non-rev and seemingly every eastbound seat booked 100% on all carriers, I was forced to either (a) buy a $900 walk-up fare as a confirmed passenger for SEA-ATL, or (B) non-rev SEA-NRT-ATL.
Rational thought prevailed and I swiped my CC for $900.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:06 am

KFTG wrote:
Stuck in SEA during spring break as a non-rev and seemingly every eastbound seat booked 100% on all carriers, I was forced to either (a) buy a $900 walk-up fare as a confirmed passenger for SEA-ATL, or (B) non-rev SEA-NRT-ATL.
Rational thought prevailed and I swiped my CC for $900.

For me, the rational thought would’ve been going through NRT :D
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:16 am

Instead of flying TNR to JNB, I flew TNR-ADD-DXB-MRU-JNB
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:00 pm

I did SEA-LAX-CDG-HEL back in 2007. That was a long day.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:23 pm

paullam wrote:
KFTG wrote:
Stuck in SEA during spring break as a non-rev and seemingly every eastbound seat booked 100% on all carriers, I was forced to either (a) buy a $900 walk-up fare as a confirmed passenger for SEA-ATL, or (B) non-rev SEA-NRT-ATL.
Rational thought prevailed and I swiped my CC for $900.

For me, the rational thought would’ve been going through NRT :D


:lol: likewise

I flew BOS-ATL-EWR once for the fun of flying a 767-300 and a 757 on DL vs the non-stop options on 737s. JFK-DOH-HKG was also fairly out of the way but the price was great and it was a fun way to try a variety of planes. I flew out on two a359s and then caught at TG 744 on HKG-BKK and flew BKK-DOH-JFK on an a346 and 77W.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:25 pm

I've sat next to people on my UA flights from MEM-IAH that were connecting MEM-IAH-CMH, MEM-IAH-IND, and MEM-IAH-STL. I asked the guy going to CMH why he didn't fly to ORD, and he said that the last connection in that direction was not late enough for him to finish his meeting in MEM, so he took the more convenient departure time.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:38 pm

I wouldn't call it "nonsense", but well. Try to travel between the neighbouring smallest Canary Islands of La Gomera and El Hierro during winter season. We did that twice so far because they are our favourite islands.Their airports are just 70km apart, but you can only fly to Tenerife Norte at the far end of Tenerife and back in almost the same direction, which makes the trip 268km or almost 4x as long. Instead on some days you can take a routing via LPA, which is even longer. Or you take a ferry to Los Cristianos at the nearer end of Tenerife and another ferry back in almost the same direction with the ferry to/from El Hierro passing very close to La Gomera. It will take 5-6h to get from one island to the other as the timetables are not coordinated. There is no other public transport available between the two. Only in summer season there is an occasional direct ferry, but still no flight.


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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:00 pm

maps4ltd wrote:
What's the weirdest routing you have seen or flown?


I once booked MIA-LAX-PDX-SMF. Why did I book it? I was redeeming frequent flyer miles, that was the only routing they were offering at the lowest redemption level, and since I'm a fairly infrequent flyer I didn't have enough miles for an AAnytime reward in both directions. If I were paying with actual money I never would have booked that routing, but with miles I take what I can get.

However I didn't end up actually flying that routing. The first leg was delayed, I missed my connection at LAX, and they rebooked me non-stop to SMF.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:29 am

A friend of mine worked ticketing at JFK for Turkish. Said several years ago when Turkish offered $500/thereabouts roundtrip JFK to points like AMS, CDG, LHR, etc. - people came out in droves flying to IST then flying back to western europe to take advantage of the savings.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:30 am

When SQ still flew SIN-DME-IAH and SIN-BCN-GRU.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:36 pm

I’m sure people on here remember the AZ error fares from around 8/9 years ago...
You had to fly Milan-Bari
However, the routing in between was up to you..
I booked
MXP-FCO-CDG-SIN-CDG-TRN-BRI =€80.
Bizarrely AF canx the SIN-CDG leg ( operational reasons,) so I actually flew...
MXP-FCO-CDG-SIN-AMS-LHR

Also had several other RTN AZ fares to the Far East for less Than €100.,and always starting in Milan, and ending in Bari.
BTW, I never once went to Bari..!!!!
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:57 pm

I was in Catania several years ago, and my work plans had changed. I originally was slated to return to Naples for two days of business, then, on to Rome, Atlanta, then home to BHM. Plans changed, and in order to bypass Naples and just go to Rome, then onwards, incurred a ticket change fee that was more than the entire round trip, according to the gum-chewing nothing I had on the phone at Delta.

After not being able to juggle things on my own, I called back. This time, I got a lady I could only describe as “I love a challenge!”. After much clattering of keys, hmm-ing, ehh-ing, and more hmm-ing, she was able to get around the asinine fee by routing me Catania Rome Atlanta Detroit Birmingham. Something about how, even though there was a change in aircraft at Atlanta, the Rome flight didn’t terminate until it got to Detroit and the way the rules were set up, it was either $2K change fee to go the better route, or $112 to go ATL DTW BHM instead. Something about how the tariffs and ticketing and folding tab A over slot B caused these complications.

I did it that way. By the time I got home, the cab driver almost had to pour me out of the cab I was so exhausted.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:07 pm

Weirdest I've ever done was JFK-MSP-MSN. DTW was twice the price.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:14 pm

I once flew LHR - FRA - FRU - IST - TIA, and left 2 London two days earlier I needed too for the privilege, mainly to try Somon Air, a new airline for me at the time.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:25 pm

Thanks to Lufthansa‘s hub strategy, there’s a lot of interesting routings when you want to get from a smaller German airport to anywhere else than the hubs.
I find BRE to CPH via MUC particularly interesting. It brings you right in the opposite direction and then you fly over BRE. The same goes for BRE to HEL, also via MUC, sometimes via FRA.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:45 am

My weirdest routing was:
NUE-MUC-CDG-FRA-BOG
BOG-FRA-CDG-ZRH-NUE
Why? Much cheaper in first class than going directly NUE-FRA-BOG (2700€ instead of 6000€).

I also once took NUE-FRA-HAM and HAM-FRA-NUE, instead of going directly NUE-HAM and back. Reason was, that Eurowings, who have been operating the direct leg, tends to be pretty unreliable. Therefore transferring in FRA, even though it took more time, was safer, because there would have been two more flights on that day to HAM. And if the feeder to FRA would've been cancelled, I could have rebooked for the direct flight, which was also later, than my fight to FRA.

Once we took BOS-ATL-PHL instead of going directly, because of the aircraft involved. BOS-PHL would have been something boring. On BOS-ATL I finally got my first ride on a Boeing 757-200, the flight to PHL was an even more exciting MD90, where we specifically booked the seats in the back next to the engine. We took the opportunity to visit the Delta Museum, which was pretty nice.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:09 am

MAN - IAH - DTW to catch an empty SQ A359 instead of anything more direct.

Even better was the DL CR7 from IAH to DTW.was packed except 1 empty seat...yup, the one right next to me.

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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:57 am

paullam wrote:
KFTG wrote:
Stuck in SEA during spring break as a non-rev and seemingly every eastbound seat booked 100% on all carriers, I was forced to either (a) buy a $900 walk-up fare as a confirmed passenger for SEA-ATL, or (B) non-rev SEA-NRT-ATL.
Rational thought prevailed and I swiped my CC for $900.

For me, the rational thought would’ve been going through NRT :D

When I was nonreving ICN-SFO-IAH it was on the table for me to to to LHR FRA or NRT to get to IAH. If I didnt have a test review the nect day for an exam I knew nothing about i probably wouldve done it. Thats when I learned never to nonrev over spring break!
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:25 am

AA SAAver frequent flyer redemption routings are often a hoot. Instead of putting me on a BNA-MIA nonstop, they usually try to send me via DCA, PHL, NYC, or ORD, then whatever MIA--Caribbean connection. Last summer they offered to route me BNA-LHR via LAX.

Last fall, prior to the AA + AS codeshare, I looked at flying SEA-PDX and AA wanted to sell me a revenue ticket via LAX.

As I nonrev, one time in college I flew MSY-DFW via DEN.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:27 am

Personally... I once flew CGY-MNL-GES v.v.. For those not familiar CGY and GES are on the same island but it would take a long land trip with possibly a lot of roadwork and traffic along the way. Better option was to layover in MNL (no flight from CEB back then) and catch the A330 down to GES the next day.

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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:15 am

Not exactly nonsensical but a friend of me flew MEL-SIN-KUL-SHJ-VIE-BLL to get here. Sure it could be done faster, but this turned out to be the cheapest.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:58 am

Jutlander wrote:
Not exactly nonsensical but a friend of me flew MEL-SIN-KUL-SHJ-VIE-BLL to get here. Sure it could be done faster, but this turned out to be the cheapest.

That reminds me of my WLG-AKL-OOL-KUL-COK-AUH-CDG-TXL trip I once did :D
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:02 pm

I have never really done anything too terribly out of the way - really the only ones I can think of were always Continental and the routings were mainly due to price vs flowing over the IAH hub.

JAX-EWR-HNL (routed through IAH on return)
JAX-EWR-SFO
SFO-CLE-MSP
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:23 pm

My oddest routings are as follows:

EWR-ARN-CPH-BRU-FRA-NUE-FRA-RUH-BAH-MCT-CAI-SSH instead of JFK-CAI-SSH

BNE-PER-DOH-JFK-DOH-SYD-BNE instead of BNE-YVR/LAX-EWR/JFK

MXP-FRA-PVG-TPE-SIN-BNE instead of MXP-SIN-BNE all to catch the BR B744 on PVG-TPE in J two weeks before they retired the aircraft.

BNE-MEL-LAX-EWR-MAN-FRA-BRU-FNA
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:40 pm

Thanks to non-reving, I once did AKL-MEL-SYD-DFW-LAX-SFO just to get where I needed to be for a wedding.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:03 pm

Air Canada had a MAX8 that took about 5 hours across the pond from St. John's, Newfoundland to Heathrow. Now those passengers have to back haul 3 1/2 hours west to Toronto..... and including the connecting time in YYZ....are then again passing over St. John's 7 hours later on their way to LHR....now taking about 12 to 13 hours for what should have been 5 hr non-stop flight!
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:55 am

As someone who is generally a loyal DL flier, it was pretty hard to get anywhere from XNA without going through ATL up until around 2-3 years ago when they started the early morning MSP flight. I've flown to LAX, SAN, SEA, and SNA through ATL after coming in from XNA.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:16 am

I personally haven't flown any routes that could truly be considered "geographically nonsensical" (off the top of my head, the only ones that could be argued are BUF-PHL/CLT-SFO). I know my dad has flown BUF-PHL/CLT-DTW a couple times, as US/AA was cheaper than DL nonstop.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:35 am

I'd do DTW-SAN-FRA instead of DTW-FRA if I have time, just to fly on Lufthansa's A340-300 :D
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:10 pm

A few multi-leg trips I've done, mostly due to it being reasonably better priced, but also to catch certain aircraft types. Also no nonstop perhaps available between the main cities (besides my hometown which is only domestic anyway):

GRJ-JNB-DXB-SIN-BNE-AKL

GRJ-JNB-SEZ-AUH-HKG-KUL-TGG

GRJ-JNB-LAD-OPO-LIS-BCN

LGW-MAD-OPO-LAD-CPT-GRJ

Domestic I have to sometimes fly GRJ-JNB-BFN vv...with BFN being on the nonstop path of GRJ-JNB, so backtrack again.
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:23 pm

Back when frequent flyer programs were only based on miles flown, I'd sometimes purposely book longer routings for a similar price so I could get more miles for my dollar. My more out-of-the-way routings include:
PHX-ATL-MSP
PHX-CVG-MSP
PHX-IAH-MSP
MSP-CLE-PHX
MSP-ATL-DCA
BWI-ATL-MSP
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:28 pm

The weirdest one I've purposely booked was WN STL-TPA-BWI-PWM rather than STL-BWI-PWM because the longer routing was over $100 cheaper. I still ended up on the same BWI-PWM flight I would have been on if I had booked STL-BWI-PWM. Fun day.
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:11 am

My weirdest routing is DLM-ARN-CPH-BLL just 10 min before my departure there was a DLM-BLL flight
 
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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:21 pm

I flew on WN BHM-MCO-PHL. Flew it because of price though of course

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