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Rare and Short Lived Airline/Aircraft Combinations

Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:01 pm

What are some airline/aircraft combinations that were relatively short lived and are often forgotten? A few off the top of my head.







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Re: Rare and Short Lived Airline/Aircraft Combinations

Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Delta and the 747-100/200 series in the 70's.

American Airlines and the 747
 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:14 pm

I believe Emirates had 727’s and 737’s in their early days.
 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:30 pm

Lufthansa leased in 767s on at least two occasions.
2018: ADD CPH DAR DEN DME DUB FRA HAH HAM IST JIB KEF LYR MEL OSL PEK PKC PVG RAK STN SVO SYD YVR
 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:30 pm

My favorite:

 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:33 pm

One more favorite:

 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:48 pm

I'd say this one:



During the winter of 1994/1995 KLM leased this 737-200 from Transavia. They had done so before, but those times it was painted in full KLM colors. This time it wasn't, which made it special.

Even more special because after the lease the aircraft never returned to Transavia. Instead it was sold to Ryanair.

KLM never had any 737-200s of their own, but they did lease some from Transavia a few times.
 
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Former Air Cal fleet.




Only short-lived because of TWA's imminent demise.
 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:04 pm

On top of my head:



-Royal Air Maroc A320 TS-INC, leased from Nouvelair and operated for 2 years
-Air France DC10, inherited from the merger with AOM and operated in full colors for a few months between 1992-1993
-Air France DC8, not full colors but still. Leased from Nationair in summer 1990



-Azores Airlines A330-200 CS-TRY, operated between 2016 and 2018
-Conviasa 747-400, leased from Wamos Air between 2015 and 2016 and operated in full colors
-Aigle Azur A330-200, F-HTIC and F-HTAC introduced in 2018 and retired when the airline went bankrupt in 2019
A313 A318 A319 A320 A321 A21N A330 A343 A380 B734 B73H B738 B744 B752 B763 B77E B77W B788 B789 AT72 DH8D MD88 E145 E175 E190 IL96 F100 PC6 PA28
 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:34 pm

EAL flew a PAA 747 for about six months.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:41 am

Air Canada and the A340-500
Cathy Pacific and the A340-600
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VS 767-300 5 months
 
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Boeing 757-200 in full Air Berlin colors (Belair aircraft):


Boeing 747-400 in Condor colors (Lufthansa aircraft, was used for routes to Taiwan on behalf of LH):


Boeing 767-300 in full Lufthansa colors (Condor aircraft)
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:22 am


I mean this was only around for about 7 months, and only flew Carlsbad flights for 8 days (I was lucky enough to fly on it on one of those days).
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:29 am

With the end of the eastern block, some really weird combinations came up as this one:

 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:48 am

TG 737-200(Adv), A310-200, and A310-300:




All 3 types are inherited from the TH merger; 737-200 were quickly replaced by the 737-400 by the early 1990s, while the A310 fleet lasted only until the late 1990s, and also HS-TID(A310-300) crashed in 1992, and HS-TIA(A310-200) also crashed in 1998.

Also notable is the TG MD-11 in the "new" 2005 colours, which only lasted a year before they were converted into freighters for UPS:


GA L-1011:

(Leased from Eastern Airlines)

(Leased from Royal Jordanian)
Both leased for Hajj operations

CX A340-200:


Leased from Airbus as stopgap prior to A340-300 introduction; they were later sold to PR.

SQ A340-300:


Were replaced by 777-200ER during the late 1990s.

MZ A310-300:


Used for CGK-MEL services during the 1990s, and it was originally a Pan Am frame.

Chaba Airlines A340-300:


Airline exists solely to be used as a front to deliver aircraft to Iran, the aircraft is still active with Mahan Air as of currently.

Aeroflot 777-200ER:

 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:56 am

TheEuphorian wrote:
Aeroflot 777-200ER:



Aeroflot had two 777-200ER from 1998 to 2005, so around seven years. That was not really "short lived".
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:16 pm

Continental Airline’s first run with the 747 was only 3 years or so which is quite short. Sudan Airways also operated a 727 in full colours for only about a year in the 1980s
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:52 pm

Here’s some very rare ones.

California Pacific’s first attempt at start up, using E170s. Never entered service:



Ozark 727, order cancelled before delivery, 2 planes built went to Pan Am:

 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:17 pm

I flew on AS 732 combi once JNU-SEA. It was in full passenger mode on my flight. Also, I think Cascade had DC-9s for a short time and it seems QX leased some early on but I am not sure about that. I know QX flew Fokker F-28s for a very long time. It seems they had some other off jet for a very short time. They also tested out the Dornier 328JET for a few months. I think they were looking for replacements for their Dash 8-100s
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:26 pm

UA and the L-1011's they got from Pan Am
They were around for a very short time
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:21 pm

Delta717 wrote:

Former Air Cal fleet.




Only short-lived because of TWA's imminent demise.


There was also the TWA/AA hybrid 717 livery:

So... when will the Northwest DC-9s be retired?
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:41 pm

EasyJet had a few interesting ones.

There were the four leased 757-200 in the summer of 2010, which all received a full EasyJet livery.

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In 2007 EasyJet acquired GB Airways, taking their fleet of A320s and A321s. EasyJet kept them for a short time, putting some of them into a hybrid sticker-job. While both are common today, these were the first A320s and A321 in EasyJet.

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British Airways had 3 nicely painted 747-8Fs operated for them from 2012 to 2014:

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Re: Rare and Short Lived Airline/Aircraft Combinations

Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:00 pm

A few more:


Operated between 1995 and 1997


Air Wisconsin briefly operated on behalf of FL as "AirTran Jet Connect" in the early 00s.


Speaking of AirTran and the early 00s, Ryan International Airlines operated several A320s for AirTran as they awaited delivery of their 73Gs.


This US Airways Shuttle DC-9 in a hybrid livery was only flying around for about a year


Virgin Atlantic leased a 767 from Martinair in the 1990s.


The EI tri-jets; MD-11 leased from World Airways and L-1011 leased from Caledonian.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:09 pm

KLM used a single BAC-1-11 for a few months. They only used it on the Rotterdam-Londen route.

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N407XJ, the only Saab to be painted in the final NW livery.
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:07 am

Here's one...
Ryanair Shorts Sunderland flying boat G-BJHS ...was wearing the colours of the time. I remember seeing it do a fly past down the Southern runway at LHR around 1989 just a few feet above the ground. Weirdest thing I've ever seen at LHR
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:32 am

UA painted only one 747SP (N145UA, which is the SOFIA plane) in the Battleship Grey
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:30 am

I recall Air France having a few aircraft in an experimental test livery with a cheatline. A 747, 767, and 737 I think.

That BA 748F is gorgeous. Like a big white canvas
 
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Short-lived AR A320s, LV-BNZ and LV-BOJ. Introduced in early 2008 and retired in December.
 
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Varig's 757
Cabin crew L188 707 727 737 767 A300 DC10 MD11 777 747
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:23 pm

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:
Delta and the 747-100/200 series in the 70's.


Don't forget that Delta also operated Dc-10s twice, 1st time in the 1970s while waiting for the 1011s, second time when they use bought Western Airlines planes.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBm5bD863vs

Lufthansa's (only?) 727 with then-new gray bottom livery.
 
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Far West Airlines based in Fresno, CA. They used a Japanese aircraft that proved too heavy for take off in the hot valley summer.
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:38 am

PAL introduced the current scheme in 1986, which was applied to all types including the BAC 1-11 and the HS-748. These types retired at the end of the decade, replaced by the 737 and F50s respectively.



In the early 1980s, there was an experimental bare-metal scheme on the BAC 1-11 for fuel savings/reduced painting costs. From what I know, the aircraft were repainted back into the regular scheme.

ImageMichael Stappen's PAL BAC 1-11 by goriob, on Flickr
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:54 am

Here's another one. When TWA introduced their final livery, their regional aircraft very briefly wore "TW Express" on the tail (as they did with the red and white livery) before being changed to say "TWE" on the tail. This is the only photo on A.net of said livery (and it has a 4-digit photo ID number):

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This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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Air France and the L1011 ....
(Leased from Air Transat during 1 summer season)
 
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Air France and the B767-200er inherited from UTA. Just used during a few months and sold to El Al and Balkan Air
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:21 am

Air India had leased L1011's from a shady, Antigua based company for a few months. They did fly a test flight to BOM-DEL-FRA once, and I know a bunch of cabin crew and managers were sent on a holiday to MRU for some very very expensive training, but dont think they actually operated any commercial flights regularly.



The Caribjet deal was the first public instance of the elaborate leasing game that became very popular with Airline managers in India and Pakistan! Senior manager raises a false requirement for aircraft that can only be met with a temporary lease. Managers son/cousin/brother living in London/Canada becomes the agent to arrange such a deal, usually with a shady company registered in some obscure tax haven where the sun don't shine! Gains are equally shared with all members of the team that made the deal happen!

Managers at the former legacy Air India based in BOM had honed this leasing game to a fine art. PIA and Biman managers learnt the game from their AI counterparts which came in handy a decade later when A310's were being leased for 1 month at a time from obscure tax havens!
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:42 am

When BA took over BMI they acquired a couple of leased Airbus A330s which i believe went back to the lessors fairly quickly after the takeover. I haven't been able to find any pictures of the A330s in any sort of BA livery so I am guessing that for the short time BA flew them they maintained their BMI livery. Can anyone confirm/contradict that?
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:35 pm

The AI L15 BOM-FRA service did last for a few months, but the crew weren't AI- that flight boarded next to mine at FRA so I remember the aircraft and the crew.
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:53 pm

jumpjets wrote:
When BA took over BMI they acquired a couple of leased Airbus A330s which i believe went back to the lessors fairly quickly after the takeover. I haven't been able to find any pictures of the A330s in any sort of BA livery so I am guessing that for the short time BA flew them they maintained their BMI livery. Can anyone confirm/contradict that?


Can confirm bmi livery... right up until there last day in BA service.
 
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BawliBooch wrote:
Air India had leased L1011's from a shady, Antigua based company for a few months. They did fly a test flight to BOM-DEL-FRA once, and I know a bunch of cabin crew and managers were sent on a holiday to MRU for some very very expensive training, but dont think they actually operated any commercial flights regularly.



The Caribjet deal was the first public instance of the elaborate leasing game that became very popular with Airline managers in India and Pakistan! Senior manager raises a false requirement for aircraft that can only be met with a temporary lease. Managers son/cousin/brother living in London/Canada becomes the agent to arrange such a deal, usually with a shady company registered in some obscure tax haven where the sun don't shine! Gains are equally shared with all members of the team that made the deal happen!

Managers at the former legacy Air India based in BOM had honed this leasing game to a fine art. PIA and Biman managers learnt the game from their AI counterparts which came in handy a decade later when A310's were being leased for 1 month at a time from obscure tax havens!


Saw the AI L1011’s At LHR in several occasions.
Not as rare as you think.
 
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Polot wrote:
Here’s some very rare ones.

California Pacific’s first attempt at start up, using E170s. Never entered service:




Even though it didn't enter service, it was still around for a few years in that scheme. The 145 they had was only around for a couple months. It only saw Carlsbad for 9 days I believe.
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Delta's 831MH with metal belly and new tail.

 
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Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:50 pm

Transavia France had four A320s in 2014. All back in Air France colours very quickly though. Anyone remember the shortlived Transavia Denmark btw?



Air Algérie and the Airbus A340-300, though there were several such leasing episodes of course.



Niki and the Boeing 737-800 (or just any 737 in general). This appeared late into what turned out to be the last summer season of Air Berlin and its affiliates.



Arkefly (today's TUI Nederland), they had this Boeing 737-900 from Futura for one summer.



That Gulf Air B737-700 (actually a BBJ or a 700 with extra tanks) did not last too long either.

 
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