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Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:55 am

Icelandair flight KEF - PVG, 11:32, longest 757 flight ever? I have no real idea but I'm sure eleven and half hours on 757 is pretty unusual. Anybody know where the return flight stopped?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE ... /BIKF/ZSPD
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:58 am

I randomly input ICE 1721 into flightaware and got a 13:14 return from PVG to KEF. That's a really long flight, I wonder how much payload was carried.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE1721
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:00 am

mcg wrote:
Icelandair flight KEF - PVG, 11:32, longest 757 flight ever? I have no real idea but I'm sure eleven and half hours on 757 is pretty unusual. Anybody know where the return flight stopped?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE ... /BIKF/ZSPD


Pretty sure this was operated by a 767?
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:03 am

Ishrion wrote:
mcg wrote:
Icelandair flight KEF - PVG, 11:32, longest 757 flight ever? I have no real idea but I'm sure eleven and half hours on 757 is pretty unusual. Anybody know where the return flight stopped?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE ... /BIKF/ZSPD


Pretty sure this was operated by a 767?


Yeap, B767 PVG-MUC-KEF currently in the air. Yesterday's was a B767 as well.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:15 am

It's probably doable empty with favourable winds - in the past DL flew the 752 on NRT-SEA non stop, as maintenance re-positioning flights. In fact once they entertained the idea of selling tickets on it, but I believe changed their mind.

The longest passenger 757 flight I've seen was Moscow to the Russian Far East, back when UTair had the 757-200 - that was blocked at 10h 40m.
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:39 am

PlymSpotter wrote:
It's probably doable empty with favourable winds - in the past DL flew the 752 on NRT-SEA non stop, as maintenance re-positioning flights. In fact once they entertained the idea of selling tickets on it, but I believe changed their mind.



Morning..... both myself and Cedarjet turned up to take the NRT-SEA that was on sale...
We flew LHR -NRT on a NH772...
All was ok when we left, upon arrival at the DL desk in NRT, they informed us The flight was canx.
So we then flew NRT-ORD on an AA772, then back to LHR on another AA772...
Think we managed to go door to door in something like 38hrs.... AA flights in F , and the NH flight in J.

BTW, don’t think DL ever did the nonstop Ferry direct, They always went via ANC.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:45 am

mcg wrote:
I randomly input ICE 1721 into flightaware and got a 13:14 return from PVG to KEF. That's a really long flight, I wonder how much payload was carried.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE1721


It was probably carrying fish.
Fish always weights less.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:03 am

kelval wrote:
mcg wrote:
I randomly input ICE 1721 into flightaware and got a 13:14 return from PVG to KEF. That's a really long flight, I wonder how much payload was carried.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE1721


It was probably carrying fish.
Fish always weights less.


Yeah but the F/A and emergency exit requirements hit the roof... :)
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:29 am

UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:13 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:38 pm

Wikipedia says the longest 757 flight is Keflavik to Seattle, clocking in at 8 hours and 55 minutes.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

Michael


You are correct. TXL-EWR and HAM-EWR got to see Gander and Bangor a little more often than passengers would have liked in the worst of the winter winds.

I do not understand the a.net fascination with range of empty aircraft. They say nothing about reliable operation of commercially viable flights.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:16 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

Michael


Indeed. TXL-EWR frequently diverted due to strong headwinds in winter time. I flew it once, in 2008 and while we did not divert, we were given priority landing at EWR as we were low on fuel.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:38 pm

DL flew 752 DTW-FRA according to previous A.net discussion. This is a bit farther than Moscow-Vladvostok.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:41 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

Michael


You are correct. TXL-EWR and HAM-EWR got to see Gander and Bangor a little more often than passengers would have liked in the worst of the winter winds.

I do not understand the a.net fascination with range of empty aircraft. They say nothing about reliable operation of commercially viable flights.

Well this isn’t commerciallyviableflights.net
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:30 pm

Oh dear lord! I do like the 757 but much over 7 hours on a narrow body is too much. My 757 record was about 6:45 on a BOSSJC, strong headwinds, but the SJCBOS was just a tad over 4:00 IIRC
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:49 pm

Ishrion wrote:
mcg wrote:
Icelandair flight KEF - PVG, 11:32, longest 757 flight ever? I have no real idea but I'm sure eleven and half hours on 757 is pretty unusual. Anybody know where the return flight stopped?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE ... /BIKF/ZSPD


Pretty sure this was operated by a 767?


that's prolly correct. Icelandair has a single 767 in their fleet, correct?
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:55 pm

mcg wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
mcg wrote:
Icelandair flight KEF - PVG, 11:32, longest 757 flight ever? I have no real idea but I'm sure eleven and half hours on 757 is pretty unusual. Anybody know where the return flight stopped?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ICE ... /BIKF/ZSPD


Pretty sure this was operated by a 767?


that's prolly correct. Icelandair has a single 767 in their fleet, correct?

They have four 767's
Types flown: A319, A320, A32N, A321, A332, A333, A343, AT43, AT75, AT76, B717, B732, B735, B736, B737, B738, B752, B753, CRJ9, DC10, DH4D, DHC3, E135, E145, E175, E190, E195, F100, MD11, MD81, MD82, MD87, RJ1H
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:03 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.


Got to fly this route a few times before they up-gauged it – my favorite route into Europe because Berlin is so low stress. We never stopped for fuel on any of my trips. The refurbished 767s are a treat (hope they stay put when it comes back!), but I'm not going to lie, I was a little bummed out to say goodbye to the 752 on it. No rational reason, just a weird attachment to taking that plane TATL.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:10 pm

AA747123 wrote:
Oh dear lord! I do like the 757 but much over 7 hours on a narrow body is too much. My 757 record was about 6:45 on a BOSSJC, strong headwinds, but the SJCBOS was just a tad over 4:00 IIRC


Not sure what difference it makes being on a narrowbody versus a widebody when the seats are effectively the same (10-abreast 777, 9-abreast 787, and 6 abreast 757/737 are basically identical seat-width wise). In fact, I'd much prefer an A321 over a 10-abreast 777 if all other factors (e.g., seat pitch, service, etc) are the same given the wider seats.

That said, you should get used to it, as it will be increasingly common in the future. Certain variants of the 737MAX and A321neo will all be used regularly on routes exceeding 7 hours, and this is likely a trend set to continue into the future - especially in certain parts of the world.

In that sense, the 752 was somewhat ahead of its time in terms of range capabilities (at the expense of shorter-haul economics that ultimately did it in).
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:16 pm

Flew ARN-EWR and that was scheduled at 8h 53m in the air. We did not have to stop for fuel, but that was in summertime.
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:22 pm

VSMUT wrote:
Wikipedia says the longest 757 flight is Keflavik to Seattle, clocking in at 8 hours and 55 minutes.


Well, that's not right, unless it's a one-off issue or something to do with coronavirus cutbacks. KEF-PDX is essentially the same flight in terms of routing but slightly longer, and even SFO has operated fairly regularly as a 757.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:42 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.


This is EXACTLY what went through my mind when I saw the topic. Had their been a way for Boeing to squeeze a few hundred more miles range westbound on the 757-200, they might still be making them today!

Oh dear...I went and opened THAT can of worms...moving on here, people, moving on...

VSMUT wrote:
Wikipedia says the longest 757 flight is Keflavik to Seattle, clocking in at 8 hours and 55 minutes.


Image

Not quite as far as TXL-EWR, but very close. At least Calgary and Edmonton are nearly directly along that route for diversions, if needed:

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=KEF-SEA%2C+KEF-YEG-SEA%2C+KEF-YYC-SEA%0D%0A&PC=red&DU=mi&SU=kts&RS=best&RC=navy
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:47 pm

9 HOURS in coach in a 757 ... kill me.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:50 pm

F27500 wrote:
9 HOURS in coach in a 757 ... kill me.


Get ready for 9 hours in an A321XLR soon?
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:13 pm

I've done HEL-YHZ-CUN on a 227 seater AY 752. Around 15h of pure joy :D. I think the longest route they did with those was HEL-YHZ-CTG in the early 2010's clocking 16h of travel time.
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:20 pm

I've flown CDG-EWR on the 757-200 on Continental back in 2007 we hit pretty strong headwinds on the flight home over 8 hours in the air... This was back in the day there was no AVOD in Y.. even J on the flight was the old black recliner seats. ( i believe they had small pull out screens)

I love the 757 but that was a bit long to be on the narrow body in Y.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:33 pm

The other day Olympus flew its 757F direct From Athens to HongKong. Quite a long ride too
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:07 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

Michael


Legacy Continental never had any B763s; they had B762s (and there was a 5-seat difference between the B762 and B752) and B764s. They did order five B763s, but GECAS acquired them before delivery. 3 of the 5 are now freighters...the two that aren't are owned by Atlas Air (for military charters) and Delta Air Lines (purchased off lease from GECAS in 2014).
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:29 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

Michael


Legacy Continental never had any B763s; they had B762s (and there was a 5-seat difference between the B762 and B752) and B764s. They did order five B763s, but GECAS acquired them before delivery. 3 of the 5 are now freighters...the two that aren't are owned by Atlas Air (for military charters) and Delta Air Lines (purchased off lease from GECAS in 2014).


No one implied CO did have 767-300ERs (although they did order some in the late 1990s that were never delivered to CO and ended up with DL and a military charter company. I believe that CO opted for the 764 and 762 mix instead). GECAS acquired them because CO did not want the 763. CO on occasion would fly the 762 instead of the 752 on EWR-TXL-EWR. It was UA that added the 763 to TXL after the merger and eventually it went to a 764 in peak season. It is currently suspended due to COVID19.
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:42 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
UA used to operate EWR-TXL-EWR on a 757 and I am pretty sure the TXL-EWR segment was one of the longest TATL 757 routes. The route is currently suspended and was up-gauged a while back to a 767-300ER/400ER. UA / CO also operated 757s into GVA as a sub for the 767-300ER/767-200ER (CO) as one offs. That too had to be a significant stage length for a 757 TATL.

And from memory one of the reasons to upgauge to 763ER is 757 struggles during the winter with frequent fuel diversions...

Michael


Legacy Continental never had any B763s; they had B762s (and there was a 5-seat difference between the B762 and B752) and B764s. They did order five B763s, but GECAS acquired them before delivery. 3 of the 5 are now freighters...the two that aren't are owned by Atlas Air (for military charters) and Delta Air Lines (purchased off lease from GECAS in 2014).

I'm indeed talking about the route post merger which is like 10 years ago now!

How times change...

Michael
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:35 pm

Ishrion wrote:
F27500 wrote:
9 HOURS in coach in a 757 ... kill me.


Get ready for 9 hours in an A321XLR soon?


No .. I'll just stay home, I think. Lol
 
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Re: Longest 757 Flight?

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:41 am

I have flown ATL-BSB several times on a DL 757 which I believe is the longest 757 flight. Yeah it was a long flight, but being on a 757 didn't bother me any more than if it were a widebody.....my butt certainly doesn't know the difference between a 757 and a 767 seat cushion.

Some GCMap distances on routes mentioned in this thread:

ATL-BSB: 4170mi
DTW-FRA: 4162mi
EWR-TXL: 3980mi
SEA-KEF: 3622mi
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