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Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Thu May 07, 2020 4:03 am

We all know that the last passenger 747 classic operator was Iran Air, The last passenger DC-10 operator was Biman Bangladesh, The last passenger L-1011 operator is Barq Aviation, the last passenger MD-11 was KLM and the last 747-400 operator will be Lufthansa. But will Emirates be the last A380 operator since they will retire there's in 2035?
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Thu May 07, 2020 4:25 am

Qantas may be another contender - they usually operate their owned aircraft for at least 20 years.
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Thu May 07, 2020 4:26 am

no
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Thu May 07, 2020 4:29 am

flee wrote:
Qantas may be another contender - they usually operate their owned aircraft for at least 20 years.

QANTAS said that they want to retire theirs in ten years however some if not all may not return to service after the crisis ends.
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Thu May 07, 2020 4:34 am

I would guess BA, they can really make the most of it on certain routes, and compared to EK they hold onto aircraft for a very long time.
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Thu May 07, 2020 4:35 am

Maybe. Even if EK plans to retire the A380 soon, it will take years for it to retire all of "some hundreds" airframes.
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Fri May 08, 2020 3:44 am

JQ321 wrote:
flee wrote:
Qantas may be another contender - they usually operate their owned aircraft for at least 20 years.

QANTAS said that they want to retire theirs in ten years however some if not all may not return to service after the crisis ends.


It will be very interesting for QF. On the most recent data I can find, International had load factors in the mid-high 80%, even running the A380s. They need the capacity on SYD/MEL-LAX in patricular, and are probably better parking than retiring to see how the market picks up again. And, as has been said, QF keeps its frames for an average of 20 years or so - the economics of a replacemnt would need to be pretty stark to retire them much earlier.
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Fri May 08, 2020 5:45 am

Kent350787 wrote:
JQ321 wrote:
flee wrote:
Qantas may be another contender - they usually operate their owned aircraft for at least 20 years.

QANTAS said that they want to retire theirs in ten years however some if not all may not return to service after the crisis ends.

It will be very interesting for QF. On the most recent data I can find, International had load factors in the mid-high 80%, even running the A380s. They need the capacity on SYD/MEL-LAX in patricular, and are probably better parking than retiring to see how the market picks up again. And, as has been said, QF keeps its frames for an average of 20 years or so - the economics of a replacemnt would need to be pretty stark to retire them much earlier.

Yes, especially as they have committed to a mid life cabin refresh.
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Fri May 08, 2020 5:57 am

flee wrote:
Kent350787 wrote:
JQ321 wrote:
QANTAS said that they want to retire theirs in ten years however some if not all may not return to service after the crisis ends.

It will be very interesting for QF. On the most recent data I can find, International had load factors in the mid-high 80%, even running the A380s. They need the capacity on SYD/MEL-LAX in patricular, and are probably better parking than retiring to see how the market picks up again. And, as has been said, QF keeps its frames for an average of 20 years or so - the economics of a replacemnt would need to be pretty stark to retire them much earlier.

Yes, especially as they have committed to a mid life cabin refresh.


They won’t refurbish anymore for now and will wait and see what the market does as to weather they all return to service.
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Fri May 08, 2020 1:17 pm

I think a HiFly might be the last, or something similair.
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Fri May 08, 2020 6:57 pm

Mahan is the last pax classic 747 operator
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Sun May 10, 2020 12:08 am

How do we know that the last 747-400 operator will be Lufthansa?
 
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Re: Is Emirates going to be the last A380 operator?

Mon May 11, 2020 5:45 am

Vasu wrote:
How do we know that the last 747-400 operator will be Lufthansa?


Among the big players, yes but I don't they wil be the last overall

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