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747 VS A380: Who's The Bigger Victim of COVID-19?

Fri May 22, 2020 8:42 pm

Just been having these thoughts in the past week surrounding the massive A380 news.

COVID-19's causing accelerated retirements for several aircraft types and everything like that.

But when putting the 747 (passenger) against the A380 in this situation, who's the bigger victim? Will we see airlines accelerate the phase out of more 747s or A380s first?

Everything so far because of COVID-19:

Boeing 747-400
- KLM accelerated retirement of remaining -400s and removed Combis from passenger service.
- Virgin Atlantic retired their remaining 747s
- British Airways retired two along with contemplating accelerated retirement for the entire fleet.
- Lufthansa retired 5 747-400s.
- Corsair retired its remaining 3 747-400s.
- Qantas has "grounded" theirs and sent a few 747s to the desert, but there's a scheduled 747-400 flight in a few months according to Airlineroute.

At the moment, Air China has one active 747-400, British Airways one, Wamos Air two, and that's about it.

Airbus A380
- Air France retired entire fleet two days ago.
- Etihad rumored to retire entire fleet.
- Lufthansa retires 7 A380s
- Emirates rumored to retire a portion of the fleet, but these rumors were dismissed.

Every A380 operator has grounded their A380s except for China Southern Airlines and Hi Fly's one A380 operating cargo flights.

So, who's the bigger victim? Or is it too early to tell the true impact of this crisis? If so, who's the bigger victim at the moment?
 
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Re: 747 VS A380: Who's The Bigger Victim of COVID-19?

Fri May 22, 2020 11:56 pm

COVID has accelerated 747 retirements, but it was already well onto a pathway to the end of its passenger life. The acceleration has been realistically a couple of years.

The A380 is the real "victim". I think with pre-COVID volumes itwould have had a solid 5-10 yearfuture with mainstream airlines. But with even trunk routes likely to see a medium term slowdown, the case for half-full leased A380s is less likely to work.
 
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Re: 747 VS A380: Who's The Bigger Victim of COVID-19?

Sat May 23, 2020 7:04 am

As Kent350787 mentioned and based on their ages, definitely the A380 is the victim. To be fair, it was already on its way out slowly but this was definitely another crippling blow.
 
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Re: 747 VS A380: Who's The Bigger Victim of COVID-19?

Sun May 24, 2020 3:09 am

As for the 747 is concerned, you can also count the TG birds, I doubt we will see them again unfortunately.

But the 747 retirement was well underway. Covid has just accelerated the process and the biggest part of those 747 are in their 20s. The youngest, the CI ones are around 15. The 747 survived any crises, 9-11....

Now we see some less than 10 years old A380being retire. So I would still say that the A380 is the big victim. If the airlines really loved them, they would probably store them and wait for better days, but now we are talking about total retirement

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