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Travel to New York

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:31 am
by Jaero
Can a California resident travel by car to PHX, then fly to JFK to avoid NY quarantine?

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:32 am
by Kent350787
My read si that wouldn't work. From the NY Health website:

"The travel advisory is effective at 12:01 am on Thursday, June 25, 2020. If you have traveled from within one of the designated states with significant community spread, you must quarantine when you enter New York for 14 days from the last travel within such designated state, provided on the date you enter into New York State that such state met the criteria for requiring such quarantine.

The requirements of the travel advisory do not apply to any individual passing through designated states for a limited duration (i.e., less than 24 hours) through the course of travel."

You could fly AZ-CA-NY without problems, but CA-AZ-NY isn't going to work. I expect you also need to decelare where you've been once you arrive in NY.

In my country, the virus spread to an otherwise virus free state specifically due to infected travellers using an intermdiate location to mask their place of origing. It seems like a dumb and selfish thing to do.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:41 pm
by Nicknuzzii
Jaero wrote:
Can a California resident travel by car to PHX, then fly to JFK to avoid NY quarantine?


Fly to EWR to avoid the quarantine. NJ’s is a self quarantine. Upon landing all you would have to do is drive into NY.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:19 pm
by GalaxyFlyer
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Jaero wrote:
Can a California resident travel by car to PHX, then fly to JFK to avoid NY quarantine?


Fly to EWR to avoid the quarantine. NJ’s is a self quarantine. Upon landing all you would have to do is drive into NY.


That’s not any different in spirit than hiding your origin.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:33 pm
by IADCA
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Jaero wrote:
Can a California resident travel by car to PHX, then fly to JFK to avoid NY quarantine?


Fly to EWR to avoid the quarantine. NJ’s is a self quarantine. Upon landing all you would have to do is drive into NY.


Less likely to get caught. Still illegal.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:03 pm
by twicearound
Here’s a thought, just follow the rules put in place. It’s so frustrating listening to people from other states try to get around our rules in the northeast. Unless you can abide by the state mandates you aren’t welcome. I know in MA And RI people are reporting tourists and the police are checking up on people for compliance.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:23 pm
by Jaero
I'm asking this to anyone who has recently traveled to JFK. How does it work once you arrive at JFK? Do the virus police meet you at the gate? Is there a checkpoint?

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:17 pm
by GalaxyFlyer
Jaero wrote:
I'm asking this to anyone who has recently traveled to JFK. How does it work once you arrive at JFK? Do the virus police meet you at the gate? Is there a checkpoint?


Do you comply with the law because a, it’s the right thing to do or b, only if you might get caught?

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:51 am
by johns624
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Jaero wrote:
I'm asking this to anyone who has recently traveled to JFK. How does it work once you arrive at JFK? Do the virus police meet you at the gate? Is there a checkpoint?


Do you comply with the law because a, it’s the right thing to do or b, only if you might get caught?
You forgot c, rules are only for others. I'm much more important than them.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:40 am
by twicearound
Jaero wrote:
I'm asking this to anyone who has recently traveled to JFK. How does it work once you arrive at JFK? Do the virus police meet you at the gate? Is there a checkpoint?


You may think you can say whatever you want on the internet, but asking about how to break the law is never smart. The internet isn’t as anonymous as you many think. I hope you get A lovely NYC welcome by port authority. Silver bracelets and an escort to Rikers.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:07 am
by GalaxyFlyer
At a shoot today, a friend told me of his brother-in-law, his sister, two children and mother had gone to Maine for the Labor Day weekend at their camp. On the way south, stopped at the rest area before crossing into NH. All came out to see a state trooper’s car parked behind there’s and trooper waiting, having noticed the MA plates. “Sir, where have been in Maine? “How long? “The weekend”. “Do you have negative tests within 72 hours?” “No, we don’t”. “”Here’s your citations with fines of $500 each”. $3,000 for the weekend at the camp.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:45 am
by Insertnamehere
twicearound wrote:
Jaero wrote:
I'm asking this to anyone who has recently traveled to JFK. How does it work once you arrive at JFK? Do the virus police meet you at the gate? Is there a checkpoint?


You may think you can say whatever you want on the internet, but asking about how to break the law is never smart. The internet isn’t as anonymous as you many think. I hope you get A lovely NYC welcome by port authority. Silver bracelets and an escort to Rikers.


The Port Authority nor the NYPD are arresting anyone for breaking quarantine. They are fining people if caught up to $10,000 but they are not arresting anyone.

As for the process of how it is being handled, it varies wildly not just by the airport but by the terminal. Friend flew to NYC a few weeks ago on American at LGA and they had people meeting the plane, I flew in a few weeks ago as well on Delta at LGA and the only people dealing with the forms were at baggage claim.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:06 am
by IPFreely
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
brother-in-law, his sister, two children and mother


GalaxyFlyer wrote:
“”Here’s your citations with fines of $500 each”. $3,000 for the weekend at the camp.


5 x $500 = $2,500, not $3,000

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:02 am
by stl07
IPFreely wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
brother-in-law, his sister, two children and mother


GalaxyFlyer wrote:
“”Here’s your citations with fines of $500 each”. $3,000 for the weekend at the camp.


5 x $500 = $2,500, not $3,000

The point still stands...
What's so hard about getting a test, they are free and available everywhere. You can even get one online shipped to your door

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:57 pm
by GalaxyFlyer
IPFreely wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
brother-in-law, his sister, two children and mother


GalaxyFlyer wrote:
“”Here’s your citations with fines of $500 each”. $3,000 for the weekend at the camp.



5 x $500 = $2,500, not $3,000


It was six people, I had that wrong, the $3,000 is correct.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:45 pm
by PITingres
stl07 wrote:
IPFreely wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
brother-in-law, his sister, two children and mother


GalaxyFlyer wrote:
“”Here’s your citations with fines of $500 each”. $3,000 for the weekend at the camp.


5 x $500 = $2,500, not $3,000

The point still stands...
What's so hard about getting a test, they are free and available everywhere. You can even get one online shipped to your door


"available everywhere" is far from true. Up until very recently it was a real chore getting a test here in Western PA, you basically had to have symptoms or a doctor's prescription if you wanted a test with results in under 10 days.

As of today I could probably get one, assuming that the local provider hasn't run out of tests again. No idea how long that will last.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:45 pm
by stl07
PITingres wrote:
stl07 wrote:
IPFreely wrote:



5 x $500 = $2,500, not $3,000

The point still stands...
What's so hard about getting a test, they are free and available everywhere. You can even get one online shipped to your door


"available everywhere" is far from true. Up until very recently it was a real chore getting a test here in Western PA, you basically had to have symptoms or a doctor's prescription if you wanted a test with results in under 10 days.

As of today I could probably get one, assuming that the local provider hasn't run out of tests again. No idea how long that will last.

You can do online testing in places with less testing...

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:11 pm
by Jaero
twicearound wrote:
Jaero wrote:
I'm asking this to anyone who has recently traveled to JFK. How does it work once you arrive at JFK? Do the virus police meet you at the gate? Is there a checkpoint?


You may think you can say whatever you want on the internet, but asking about how to break the law is never smart. The internet isn’t as anonymous as you many think. I hope you get A lovely NYC welcome by port authority. Silver bracelets and an escort to Rikers.


Well, my plan worked. Flew to EWR. My daughter picked us up in a car with NY plates. I guess the Port Authority has been negligent in monitoring Airliners.net forums. Maybe you could tell on them.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:13 pm
by Jaero
Well, this topic is moot (for now).
Thanks for the replies and lectures and hopes of having me incarcerated.
Happy flying!

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:26 am
by GalaxyFlyer
Hope you don’t spread your virus in California. Irresponsibility knows no limits.

Re: Travel to New York

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:05 am
by Kent350787
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Hope you don’t spread your virus in California. Irresponsibility knows no limits.


On this we can all agree. What a selfish idiot the OP is.