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Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:55 am

What are some things you consider picking a connecting airport?

Mine are:

Potential Weather

Food options

Length of Layover

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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:15 pm

Never worry about it except ORD.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:32 pm

The only thing that really matters to me is ease of connection. I try to stay away from congested over crowned hubs because of my fear of not making my connection. I really like MUC, AMS and CLT for making connections they are pretty simple to navigate in my mind. I would add to that list Detroit but that is my home airport and I don't really connect there. Of the airports I have connected at CDG, FRA, LHR, ATL and SEA are a nightmare.
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:36 pm

I avoid ORD in the winter.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:23 pm

I avoid SFO when there are clouds.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:24 pm

For me it's the costs. If connecting at one airport saves me money over connecting at another airport, then obviously I pick the cheaper airport. I'm willing to accept some inconvenience for that.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:39 pm

aklrno wrote:
I avoid SFO when there are clouds.


When do you book flights? I book flights generally anywhere from 2 days to 2 months in advance. How do you know if there will be clouds on a given day 2 months from now?
 
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Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:14 pm

IPFreely wrote:
aklrno wrote:
I avoid SFO when there are clouds.


When do you book flights? I book flights generally anywhere from 2 days to 2 months in advance. How do you know if there will be clouds on a given day 2 months from now?

I‘m 99% sure that his comment was sarcastic
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Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:14 pm

IPFreely wrote:
aklrno wrote:
I avoid SFO when there are clouds.


When do you book flights? I book flights generally anywhere from 2 days to 2 months in advance. How do you know if there will be clouds on a given day 2 months from now?

I‘m 99% sure that his comment was sarcastic
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:24 pm

IPFreely wrote:
aklrno wrote:
I avoid SFO when there are clouds.


When do you book flights? I book flights generally anywhere from 2 days to 2 months in advance. How do you know if there will be clouds on a given day 2 months from now?


I don’t do that much flying where a SFO connection makes sense but I would probably book away from any flight arriving SFO before mid-afternoon in the winter.
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:55 pm

For domestic US travel, I'd be comfortable with a 1 hour connection with mild weather or uncongested hubs like IAH, DFW, DEN, PHX, ATL, CLT, DTW, MSP, SLC.

ORD is best avoided in the winter. That place manages snow or even summer thunderstorms horribly.

I generally only use coastal hubs for US-International connections. I can deal with 1 hour connections with LAX on the same airline, but leave at least 2 hours if it involves TBIT or coming back from overseas. SFO is at least 2 hours for all circumstances. On the East Coast, IAD is the most operationally efficient, but the UA C/D concourse is pathetic. Wouldn't want to spend more the 2 hours there. PHL is remarkably bad for its size. EWR/JFK I'd leave at least 2 hours simply due to weather and congestion. If it involves changing airlines/terminals and reclearing security, I'd probably leave even longer.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:46 am

Cubsrule wrote:
IPFreely wrote:
aklrno wrote:
I avoid SFO when there are clouds.


When do you book flights? I book flights generally anywhere from 2 days to 2 months in advance. How do you know if there will be clouds on a given day 2 months from now?


I don’t do that much flying where a SFO connection makes sense but I would probably book away from any flight arriving SFO before mid-afternoon in the winter.

I'd honestly avoid SFO at all costs. With fog and gate delays, you're sure to be in for an adventure, no matter the time of year.
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:49 am

I usually fly to SAN when I fly and live in the Lexington Ky area. I try to connect thru PHX or LAS on Southwest because the weather at both is usually dry.

I even drove to IND once because the nonstop had perfect times and still saved an hour with a 3 Hour drive.

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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:24 am

I won't fly through PHL, although I broke that rule earlier this year for a very special case. I'm not in a rush to connect through SFO or EWR. Beyond that, I'm usually constrained by destination and pricing, and don't usually have a lot of options for any given trip.
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Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:50 am

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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:54 am

I guess there was some sarcasm in my SFO comment, as someone pointed out it's tough to predict clouds months in advance so I just presume SFO will be messed up and down to two runways instead of four. When I connect at SFO I allow for hours of buffer. The museum displays in the United terminal can absorb some time and so can the Polaris lounge. A couple of times I took BART to the city for a walk. The problem is taking a regional flight into SFO and a long haul out. The long haul will go on time but the incoming regional can be delayed hours. No big problem on the return since the delays just result in getting home late, not a missed flight.

I’m always amazed at how good DEN is for connections. Flying out of NYC or DC I just worry about outbound delays in the afternoon so I try to give myself enough time in DEN to cover those delays but DEN is rarely the cause of a problem.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:06 pm

Airside smoking area in the airport, especially for long layover (more than 2hrs).
Too bad AMS became a smoke free airport recently :(
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:49 pm

I don't tend to worry too much about it unless I know the airport to be a real dump (I prefer to not connect through Newark, eg, but can't be helped with where I live now). Likewise, I tend to think about how easy it is to navigate the terminals. I'll disagree with a previous poster: Atlanta, though a large airport, is not that bad to navigate to my mind. However, when flying to Europe, I avoid CDG as much as possible as moving between terminals is a real nightmare there. Likewise, I've connected through the new Istanbul airport twice now and if you have to redo the security check, it's a very long wait on top of the absolutely huge distances you have to walk--purely a preference thing, but that airport seems to have temperature control issues. It's a bit too warm but also for some reason very humid and sticky in there though it's a lovely building.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:14 am

I am okay generally with connecting anywhere its more about the connecting time for me. As long as I can find a spot with wifi and a decent place to put my laptop down I should be fine for a good few hours. Priority Pass lounges are a nice plus though and I am willing to take a slightly longer travel time to go to one vs an airport without one
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:52 am

I mainly look at schedule.
I will chose the airport that has later flights to my destination should I misconnect over one that does not.
Internationally, I prefer connecting in a country that I do not need a visa to enter. A few years ago I was flying back from Khartoum and misconnected in AMM. RJ gave me a hotel and meal vouchers but since I did not have a Jordanian visa, They had armed guards at the hotel making sure I did not leave the hotel for the 24 hours I was stuck. It sucked.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:00 am

I think more about the time between flights. I like to leave an hour or more between flights. That does not always work and sometimes it backfires. I had a connecting flight cancelled in SEA because of weather in ANC and another time decided to connect in SFO instead of DEN so I missed flying on a 727. Hilarious side note, I thought I had missed my connection at SFO so I was running through the terminal only to find I had misread the clock.
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:23 am

On an international flight, I'll try to visit somewhere I haven't been before and add a layover. If that's not an option then airline preference comes first.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:44 pm

I try to pick a connecting airport that is reasonably good for the overall routing. It will add to the journey time as a connection of course, but not make the trip a lot longer than it has to be,. In the US I try to avoid ORD and LAX.. In Europe, LHR is better than it used to be but still not great. Also if flying a particular airline that I have flown before, might try a hub of theirs I have not used if it makes sense routing wise. For example never been through PHL for AA and for DL would love to see the new SLC airport.
 
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Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:02 pm

Can I take a non-stop to my destination? Yes? Will do! No? Okay, where am I going to have to change planes?

Is it DFW in the evening hours? That's an absolute NO. I've learned that one the hard way...

What's the weather going to be like? Wintery? Fly through as northerly an airport as possible, as Minnesotans and Michiganers know how to deal with snow. Avoid the south, as they just don't deal with it as well...

Is it an airport with a reputation of being one of the circles of hell during IRROPs? Or even regular operations? Is it notoriously difficult for transfers?

Beyond that, for me, it's a matter of the balance between times, price, equipment, and ease of transfer. Several years ago I had the option on UA flying SAN-XNA via either DEN or IAH, at the same price. I chose IAH to fly a 737 MAX, with nearly identical flight times, and realized that I got to see IAH's terminal B banjos before they get replaced entirely, so that was another factor in my choice.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:41 pm

If I am headed out on a TPAC flight, I do my very best to avoid LAX. I go through a lot of nonsense with security due to implants, so the idea of fighting my way to another terminal and going through that again is something I try my level best to avoid.

When I travel to Spain and have to connect in Madrid, I try for at least a two hour or more layover so I can get from one terminal to another. Yes, there is security again, but at least the Spanish security is polite.
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:03 am

Any of the following will attract me:

- New airport (for me)
- New or interesting plane type on one of the legs

But reality is the most pressing factor

- Do I get at least an hour? (those under 30 minute connections are absurd)
- What time of year is it - what are the chances of bad weather impacting me?
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:56 am

Length of Layover, Weather (possibility of getting stuck), number of flights in case of IROP - how to get around or through the hub.

Example - instead of UA LAS-SFO-SUN - went LAS-DEN-SUN - why? Possibility of mis-connect or weather in SFO compared to DEN, whereas, even if weather is in the area, DEN usually runs smooth.

Favorite hubs to connect: DL at DTW & SLC; WN at DEN, BNA, DAL, HOU or AUS

Least Liked Hubs: LHR (BA/AA), AA at CLT, DL at ATL

Most Missed Hubs: DL / NW at MEM, CO at CLE - both were easy to use and with the added benefit in MEM of fantastic BBQ during the layover.
 
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Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:19 pm

Favorite hubs to connect: DL at DTW or ATL (really, I avoid tight connections and have not had a problem (I'm looking at you, MSP)); WN at DEN or HOU; AA at CLT (if arriving back from the Caribbean);

Least liked hubs: AA at DFW; DL at MSP (if connecting from F to B or C, which is not infrequent for me); WN at MDW (crowded, and I often draw A to B connections); UA at ORD

Missed: DL at MEM (always had to stop for barbeque)
 
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Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:11 pm

WesternDC6B wrote:
If I am headed out on a TPAC flight, I do my very best to avoid LAX. I go through a lot of nonsense with security due to implants, so the idea of fighting my way to another terminal and going through that again is something I try my level best to avoid.

When I travel to Spain and have to connect in Madrid, I try for at least a two hour or more layover so I can get from one terminal to another. Yes, there is security again, but at least the Spanish security is polite.

Generous person that I am, I'm willing to share my LAX secrets for a transpacific connection at LAX.

1. If connecting from any airline at terminals 4-8, you can walk inside security to TBIT for your international flight. Just consult a terminal map and find the tunnels. Terminals 2-3 have a Delta shuttle bus airside between T2-T3-TBIT. T1 will be connected airside to T2 in a few weeks. Thus for outbound TPAC connections at LAX, if baggage is checked and you have a boarding pass, no need to do check-in or security again at LAX. Arriving passengers (like at all US airports) will still have to reclear security. It is never more than a 15 minute walk from TBIT to any other terminal at LAX. Usually less.

2. If you do find yourself outside security, you can use your boarding pass at any LAX terminal. Many LAX long haul flights leave in the evening. TBIT is a zoo. Right next door at T-4 (AA) the evening is quiet. TSA lines are short. Usually the pre-check line is empty. I have strolled through TSA at T4 at 8PM, then walked a few minutes to TBIT without stopping.

3. Have not got your outbound boarding pass yet? Sometimes I arrive at LAX early so I can have dinner with relatives before my flight. I check in at TBIT before 5PM when it is usually quiet. I return when TBIT is a horror, but enter through T4. See above, no problem.

4. Best, most secret plan, keep this to yourselves: Sometimes I arrive at LAX on WN, depart on NZ, and thus can't get a boarding pass ahead of time. I make a cancelable reservation on any LAX airline for a flight leaving very late in the day. I enter LAX airside at T4, again see above, and once through TSA immediately cancel that flight. I proceed to the Star Alliance lounge and get my NZ boarding pass there. From the time my nephew drops me at T4 until I am comfortably seated in the lounge is about 15 no hassle minutes. If your flight into LAX is late and you have made your cancelable res too early this can get very expensive. Just plan this step wisely. Luckily I have never gotten stuck.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:28 pm

aklrno wrote:
WesternDC6B wrote:
If I am headed out on a TPAC flight, I do my very best to avoid LAX. I go through a lot of nonsense with security due to implants, so the idea of fighting my way to another terminal and going through that again is something I try my level best to avoid.

When I travel to Spain and have to connect in Madrid, I try for at least a two hour or more layover so I can get from one terminal to another. Yes, there is security again, but at least the Spanish security is polite.


Generous person that I am, I'm willing to share my LAX secrets for a transpacific connection at LAX.
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Now that you've shared the secret, do you have to kill me?

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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:46 am

ibthebigd wrote:
What are some things you consider picking a connecting airport?

Mine are:

Potential Weather

Food options

Length of Layover

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In this order.

1. Entire trip time
2. Ease of making your connection. Preferably an airport with short walks, no terminal/concourse changes
3. Weather. winter only, but honestly if weather is bad you usually can change it
4. Food options. It drives me nuts all these airports are going to all/mostly local options that I have no clue what the food is. If I am in a hurry I just want something I know what I’m getting.
5. Length of layover. But after you factor in point 1 you are just making sure it isn’t too short.

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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:22 am

Avoid using airlines like Etihad and other who use that same terminal at ORD then connecting to AA or UA, you have to exit out the terminal take the train and then go through TSA again.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:50 pm

WesternDC6B wrote:
aklrno wrote:
WesternDC6B wrote:
If I am headed out on a TPAC flight, I do my very best to avoid LAX. I go through a lot of nonsense with security due to implants, so the idea of fighting my way to another terminal and going through that again is something I try my level best to avoid.

When I travel to Spain and have to connect in Madrid, I try for at least a two hour or more layover so I can get from one terminal to another. Yes, there is security again, but at least the Spanish security is polite.


Generous person that I am, I'm willing to share my LAX secrets for a transpacific connection at LAX.
.


Now that you've shared the secret, do you have to kill me?

:-{)}}}

I suggest you constantly look over your shoulder.
 
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Re: Factors Picking a Connecting Airport

Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:33 pm

The airport in question itself. :)

Haven't used LHR for transit after 2005. One bad experience can stay for life! "Bleddy Awful" (BA) changed the terminal for our connecting flight and passengers were basically left to fend for themselves. Many, including moi, ended up missing our connecting flight and forced to spend 14+ hours in LHR. Not sure of the situation now, but that place was worse than a bus terminal in mofussil Mirzapur back then.

DXB is another airport that makes me uncomfortable. That place is less of an airport and more a shopping terminal.

Nice transit airports?
1. AUH - the small(relatively) cozy airport makes for comparatively stress free transfer. Plus I like Etihad. :)
2. CDG - Most non-avgeek people in my country instinctively popup the "racism" question when i mention Air France. But as long as you speak basic broken french, its not as much of an issue.
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