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Jerseyguy
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Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:19 am

I do most of my flying on Southwest and I havent flown one of the US3 in awhile. I'm trying to find flights to AUS from PHL or EWR and keep running into articles about how seats and bathrooms are getting smaller and smaller. I had heard about AA's project mirage..er I mean Oasis but now when looking to travel United from EWR, I'm finding out that United has the same 24 inch wide bathrooms as AA installed. I'm a POS and while buying an additional seat for my seat width needs is a solution, what do I do about the bathroom. I've read horror stories about skinnier pax barely being able to fit into the bathroom. United appears to have a policy that you can use the first class bathrooms, so I guess thats an option on them but other airlines I would have to pay for a first class ticket which isn't cheap, its not as if its 2X the price, usually its more than that.

So should I stick with Southwest and then fly United incase I need to get somewhere Southwest doesn't fly? Which airline is best for PAX of Size with regards to seating and bathroom?
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:13 am

Depending on the aircraft the first class lavs may not be any larger. The UA narrow bodies I’ve been on have the same size for all classes IIRC. Some of the newer UA 777s have a handicap lav about twice normal size but just one per aircraft. You have to ask where it is or look kind of loony as you tour all of them.
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:37 am

Do you actually find Southwest 737 lav's acceptably sized?
its been a long time since I've seen reasonably sized lav on a narrowbody of any airline - which is all that flies into AUS.

"first class" lav on a domestic narrowbody means nothing anymore, its just the one at front.
If I were you, I'd go before boarding, avoid any onboard food/drink, and do your best to skip any lav visit.
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:09 am

FlyHappy wrote:
Do you actually find Southwest 737 lav's acceptably sized?
its been a long time since I've seen reasonably sized lav on a narrowbody of any airline - which is all that flies into AUS.

"first class" lav on a domestic narrowbody means nothing anymore, its just the one at front.
If I were you, I'd go before boarding, avoid any onboard food/drink, and do your best to skip any lav visit.


Your right, I just googled this, I guess I've forgotten, though I was smaller at the time (pre covid). This is crazy, they squeeze every last inch on the plane to make extra profits and now with the bathroom situation there is nothing you can do to avoid it. I can't buy a first class ticket, those bathrooms aren't any bigger. So basically I have to dehydrate myself to fly a flight over like 2-3 hours. I can't wait until Breeze starts because more competiton is needed in the airline industry. I don't see a need for a window but apparently I'd like the bathroom on the A220 better. https://pointmetotheplane.boardingarea. ... -bathroom/
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:02 pm

If size does matter, I would choose SPIRIT for sure - even if this means an extra stop. SPIRIT is offering wide "Big Front" seats, only 2x2 instead of the 3x3 seating, the seat width for EconomyClass is phenomenal. I have to admit that the bathroom is not wider, BUT with an extra stop there is time to visit the loo during transfer...
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:13 pm

Jerseyguy wrote:
FlyHappy wrote:
Do you actually find Southwest 737 lav's acceptably sized?
its been a long time since I've seen reasonably sized lav on a narrowbody of any airline - which is all that flies into AUS.

"first class" lav on a domestic narrowbody means nothing anymore, its just the one at front.
If I were you, I'd go before boarding, avoid any onboard food/drink, and do your best to skip any lav visit.


Your right, I just googled this, I guess I've forgotten, though I was smaller at the time (pre covid). This is crazy, they squeeze every last inch on the plane to make extra profits and now with the bathroom situation there is nothing you can do to avoid it. I can't buy a first class ticket, those bathrooms aren't any bigger. So basically I have to dehydrate myself to fly a flight over like 2-3 hours. I can't wait until Breeze starts because more competiton is needed in the airline industry. I don't see a need for a window but apparently I'd like the bathroom on the A220 better. https://pointmetotheplane.boardingarea. ... -bathroom/


I'm a pretty small adult, and I do actively dehydrate to fly (when alone) for this same reason. Otherwise, I'm traveling with small kids who still need an escort - combined we weigh 200 lbs at most (COVID weight for me too!), and we'll use the lav with the door open or "backing in" or other such non-sense. Its horrible.

I'm sure LGA isn't good for you, but Delta is flying the A220 from there; Breeze is probably a long ways away, not sure that they'd be doing much from EWR/PHL. Amazing how just a "retro" sized lav can be so exciting!

debonair wrote:
If size does matter, I would choose SPIRIT for sure - even if this means an extra stop. SPIRIT is offering wide "Big Front" seats, only 2x2 instead of the 3x3 seating, the seat width for EconomyClass is phenomenal. I have to admit that the bathroom is not wider, BUT with an extra stop there is time to visit the loo during transfer...


Personally, I wouldn't make an extra stop (except for maybe the longest of trans-cons), and I cannot really recommend Spirit for much... but I do agree that the "Big Front" 2 x 2 is an absolute bargain, and is far more humanely sized than any other economy seating!
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:06 pm

FlyHappy wrote:
I'm a pretty small adult, and I do actively dehydrate to fly (when alone) for this same reason. Otherwise, I'm traveling with small kids who still need an escort - combined we weigh 200 lbs at most (COVID weight for me too!), and we'll use the lav with the door open or "backing in" or other such non-sense. Its horrible.

I'm sure LGA isn't good for you, but Delta is flying the A220 from there; Breeze is probably a long ways away, not sure that they'd be doing much from EWR/PHL. Amazing how just a "retro" sized lav can be so exciting!


Breeze's maintenance hub is rumored to be at ISP and while I don't expect them to fly from JFK/LGA/EWR/PHL, I do think TTN (Trenton) has a shot being halfway between Philly and NYC. I am 35 minutes from there and have flown from there before . More competition is good regardless of even if I can use it. Perhaps this will give them more excuses to reduce further but they were going to anyway.

debonair wrote:
If size does matter, I would choose SPIRIT for sure - even if this means an extra stop. SPIRIT is offering wide "Big Front" seats, only 2x2 instead of the 3x3 seating, the seat width for EconomyClass is phenomenal. I have to admit that the bathroom is not wider, BUT with an extra stop there is time to visit the loo during transfer...

Yeah, I agree I've always thought the Big Front seats are a great thing, though with Southwest's customer of size giving me an additional seat, I've been staying away because it hasnt been convenient for me. I've only flown Spirit once, it was back in 2003 before they went to the ULCC model, it was in the previous version of the Big Front Seat which I think they called "premium economy" at the time. Then it also came with a free drink and unlimited snacks (I remember a snack box, I think they handed that out and then you could ask for crackers/peanuts/pretzels, that kind of thing). A connection is what I will probably do going forward, maybe not now because of covid but in the future. Southwest has some decent connecting points between PHL and AUS (BNA/STL) which generally don't add much flying time but only the connection time is the difference. .
 
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Re: Which airline is best for Pax of Size (Bathroom/Seats/ETC)?

Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:12 pm

Jerseyguy wrote:
A connection is what I will probably do going forward, maybe not now because of covid but in the future. Southwest has some decent connecting points between PHL and AUS (BNA/STL) which generally don't add much flying time but only the connection time is the difference. .


Tragic Lav anecdote - a few years ago, I flew on SWA to GSP, connecting in ATL. Got off the plane, went to the restroom, went straight to the (nearby) gate.... missed the flight! Argh!

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