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Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:58 am

Given that Atlas is the largest 747F operator as well as the North American launch customer for the 744F and 748F. Is it safe to say that Atlas Air is the new Flying Tiger Line since Flying Tigers had a large 747F back in the 70s/80s?
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:18 am

Entirely different business models.

Flying Tigers was a global scheduled airline. Atlas Air is a leasing company offering its services and flying on behalf of others (Amazon, Cathat, DHL, NCA, Qantas, UPS) etc and also offering charters to customers globally.
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:39 am

UPlog wrote:
Entirely different business models.

Flying Tigers was a global scheduled airline. Atlas Air is a leasing company offering its services and flying on behalf of others (Amazon, Cathat, DHL, NCA, Qantas, UPS) etc and also offering charters to customers globally.

Don´t Flying Tigers and Atlas Air both operate military charter flights.
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:22 pm

UA857 wrote:
UPlog wrote:
Entirely different business models.

Flying Tigers was a global scheduled airline. Atlas Air is a leasing company offering its services and flying on behalf of others (Amazon, Cathat, DHL, NCA, Qantas, UPS) etc and also offering charters to customers globally.

Don´t Flying Tigers and Atlas Air both operate military charter flights.


Yes, both companies flew/fly extensive military charters. Atlas also has a small amount of its own scheduled operations, mainly routes out of MIA to South America. But as UPlog stated, their main business is operating for others and ACMI/CMI.

Both also have a connection to FedEx. Flying Tigers was bought by FX, and Atlas gives them additional capacity every peak season.
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:23 pm

UPlog wrote:
Entirely different business models.

Flying Tigers was a global scheduled airline. Atlas Air is a leasing company offering its services and flying on behalf of others (Amazon, Cathat, DHL, NCA, Qantas, UPS) etc and also offering charters to customers globally.


Exactly does Atlas even fly a scheduled network. Flying Tigers is more like FEDEX but with bulk cargo
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:25 pm

NCAD95 wrote:
Exactly does Atlas even fly a scheduled network. Flying Tigers is more like FEDEX but with bulk cargo


There are multiple cities with daily flights between them which would seem to indicate some scheduled operations.

Example:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KMIA/KIAH

Also BWI-PDX, MIA-BWI, to sort out a few more.
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:17 pm

Atlas operates primarily on behalf of 3rd parties. Flying Tigers was a scheduled airline with global freight network.

AAWW(parent of Atlas Air) annual report breaks down their business into 3 revenue segments - ACMI, Charter and Dry Leasing

IAHFLYR wrote:
NCAD95 wrote:
Exactly does Atlas even fly a scheduled network. Flying Tigers is more like FEDEX but with bulk cargo


There are multiple cities with daily flights between them which would seem to indicate some scheduled operations.

Example:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KMIA/KIAH

Also BWI-PDX, MIA-BWI, to sort out a few more.


Those are on behalf of Amazon Prime Air. Amazon is the customer that tells Atlas where and when to fly.
 
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Re: Is Atlas Air the new Flying Tiger Line?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:49 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Those are on behalf of Amazon Prime Air. Amazon is the customer that tells Atlas where and when to fly.


Understand, though the customer appears to have them scheduled at the same time each day.....thus my poor use of "scheduled".

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