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UA857
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Why was the 747-400F so unpopular in the '90s

Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:39 am

The 744F EIS was in 1993 but the type didn't start gaining popularity until the early '00s. Is there a reason why? Could it be because when the 744 was released airlines decided that it would be cheaper to convert existing 741/742 into freighters instead of purchasing brand new 744Fs?
 
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Re: Why was the 747-400F so unpopular in the '90s

Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:04 am

Unpopular? The 744F deliveries were 126 while the 742F was 73. I wouldn't call that not popular! Remember there were freighters that were only a few years old when the 744F was being produced. So, unless you are printing money in the basement, it didn't make economic sense to order the 744F in the early years of the 400 family. Yes, a P2F conversion was cheaper than a new purchase but you don't get the same lift.
 
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Re: Why was the 747-400F so unpopular in the '90s

Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:08 pm

VMCA787 wrote:
Unpopular? The 744F deliveries were 126 while the 742F was 73. I wouldn't call that not popular! Remember there were freighters that were only a few years old when the 744F was being produced. So, unless you are printing money in the basement, it didn't make economic sense to order the 744F in the early years of the 400 family. Yes, a P2F conversion was cheaper than a new purchase but you don't get the same lift.


Then was the 744F released prematurely?
 
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Re: Why was the 747-400F so unpopular in the '90s

Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:39 pm

UA857 wrote:
Then was the 744F released prematurely?


Why have two assembly lines going one for the 742F and another for the 744? That costs an arm and a leg to do that. The 744F did just fine and with the flood of pax orders initially, the line was going at 100% anyhow.
 
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Re: Why was the 747-400F so unpopular in the '90s

Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:45 am

Let’s not forget, the MD-11F took away a good chunk out of the would-be 744F sales, with 53 new builds ordered up to 1997. It’s no surprise the 744F saw an uptick in orders after the MD-11F was no longer offered by Boeing.
Did you know that a Boeing 717-200 is really a McDonnell Douglas MD95-30? ;-)

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