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Possible 777-9LR variant?

Fri May 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Similar to how Airbus is proposing a ULH variant of the A35J called the A350-1000ULR. Will Boeing in response to Airbus propose a ULH variant of the 779 called the 777-9LR? The 779LR could fly further than the 778 and could be used on SQ´s SIN-JFK/EWR route and a possible GRU-NRT nonstop.
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Sat May 22, 2021 12:54 am

UA857 wrote:
Similar to how Airbus is proposing a ULH variant of the A35J called the A350-1000ULR. Will Boeing in response to Airbus propose a ULH variant of the 779 called the 777-9LR? The 779LR could fly further than the 778 and could be used on SQ´s SIN-JFK/EWR route and a possible GRU-NRT nonstop.


Why would SQ need another aircraft when they've got the A359ULR (and A359XWB) doing those NYC flights already? And who is going to fly TYO-GRU?
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Sat May 22, 2021 6:12 am

That is a market for 10 aircraft, possibly 3 given I don't see SQ looking to replace the 359ULH anytime soon, probably make it 0 as ANA have ordered the 779 but TYO-GRU non stop, I can't see it certainly not on something as big as the 779, weather its doable oneday or not. Who else do you see ordering?
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Thu May 27, 2021 6:24 pm

Fuling wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Similar to how Airbus is proposing a ULH variant of the A35J called the A350-1000ULR. Will Boeing in response to Airbus propose a ULH variant of the 779 called the 777-9LR? The 779LR could fly further than the 778 and could be used on SQ´s SIN-JFK/EWR route and a possible GRU-NRT nonstop.


Why would SQ need another aircraft when they've got the A359ULR (and A359XWB) doing those NYC flights already? And who is going to fly TYO-GRU?


If SQ wants an onboard lounge on their SIN-EWR/JFK route they could request Boeing to create a custom-made 779LR similar to how QF requested Boeing to create a custom-made 744ER.
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Thu May 27, 2021 6:33 pm

UA857 wrote:
Fuling wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Similar to how Airbus is proposing a ULH variant of the A35J called the A350-1000ULR. Will Boeing in response to Airbus propose a ULH variant of the 779 called the 777-9LR? The 779LR could fly further than the 778 and could be used on SQ´s SIN-JFK/EWR route and a possible GRU-NRT nonstop.


Why would SQ need another aircraft when they've got the A359ULR (and A359XWB) doing those NYC flights already? And who is going to fly TYO-GRU?


If SQ wants an onboard lounge on their SIN-EWR/JFK route they could request Boeing to create a custom-made 779LR similar to how QF requested Boeing to create a custom-made 744ER.


If and if. Apart from the dubious suggestion that a several-hundred million dollar aircraft selection would be made on the basis of an onboard passenger lounge/salon, Singapore Airlines from what I recall has never had an onboard lounge. It isn't part of the concept. IMO, it would be a better pitch for the likes of Emirates and Qatar. The former has a lounge on its entire A380 fleet and the latter isn't a stranger to standout concepts.
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Thu May 27, 2021 8:17 pm

VSMUT wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Fuling wrote:

Why would SQ need another aircraft when they've got the A359ULR (and A359XWB) doing those NYC flights already? And who is going to fly TYO-GRU?


If SQ wants an onboard lounge on their SIN-EWR/JFK route they could request Boeing to create a custom-made 779LR similar to how QF requested Boeing to create a custom-made 744ER.


If and if. Apart from the dubious suggestion that a several-hundred million dollar aircraft selection would be made on the basis of an onboard passenger lounge/salon, Singapore Airlines from what I recall has never had an onboard lounge. It isn't part of the concept. IMO, it would be a better pitch for the likes of Emirates and Qatar. The former has a lounge on its entire A380 fleet and the latter isn't a stranger to standout concepts.


Wouldn´t a 779LR allow SQ to install an onboard bar on its SIN-EWR/JFK service?
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Thu May 27, 2021 8:19 pm

UA857 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
UA857 wrote:

If SQ wants an onboard lounge on their SIN-EWR/JFK route they could request Boeing to create a custom-made 779LR similar to how QF requested Boeing to create a custom-made 744ER.


If and if. Apart from the dubious suggestion that a several-hundred million dollar aircraft selection would be made on the basis of an onboard passenger lounge/salon, Singapore Airlines from what I recall has never had an onboard lounge. It isn't part of the concept. IMO, it would be a better pitch for the likes of Emirates and Qatar. The former has a lounge on its entire A380 fleet and the latter isn't a stranger to standout concepts.


Wouldn´t a 779LR allow SQ to install an onboard bar on its SIN-EWR/JFK service?


They could install a bar in the A380. They didn't. It isn't part of the Singapore Airlines concept.
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Fri May 28, 2021 9:47 am

UA857 wrote:
Fuling wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Similar to how Airbus is proposing a ULH variant of the A35J called the A350-1000ULR. Will Boeing in response to Airbus propose a ULH variant of the 779 called the 777-9LR? The 779LR could fly further than the 778 and could be used on SQ´s SIN-JFK/EWR route and a possible GRU-NRT nonstop.


Why would SQ need another aircraft when they've got the A359ULR (and A359XWB) doing those NYC flights already? And who is going to fly TYO-GRU?


If SQ wants an onboard lounge on their SIN-EWR/JFK route they could request Boeing to create a custom-made 779LR similar to how QF requested Boeing to create a custom-made 744ER.


Apples and oranges. The B747-400ER and A350-900ULR were built for extra range over the standard type, but you're proposing a B777-9LR be built for an onboard lounge? To an airline that, as VS-MUT mentioned, doesn't have/want an onboard lounge?
 
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Re: Possible 777-9LR variant?

Fri May 28, 2021 1:29 pm

Fuling wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Fuling wrote:

Why would SQ need another aircraft when they've got the A359ULR (and A359XWB) doing those NYC flights already? And who is going to fly TYO-GRU?


If SQ wants an onboard lounge on their SIN-EWR/JFK route they could request Boeing to create a custom-made 779LR similar to how QF requested Boeing to create a custom-made 744ER.


Apples and oranges. The B747-400ER and A350-900ULR were built for extra range over the standard type, but you're proposing a B777-9LR be built for an onboard lounge? To an airline that, as VS-MUT mentioned, doesn't have/want an onboard lounge?


I´m saying that if SQ wants to add First Class on SIN-EWR/JFK. They can request Boeing to create a 779LR. The 779LR subfleet would have First, Business, and Premium Economy.

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