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Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:38 pm
by fpetrutiu
I've just booked a ticket to Milan and on the return segment (MXP-JFK) on Aug 22) it is showing A330-900neo operated by Alitalia (DL 6691 codeshare).

I don't remember seeing an order for A330-900neo's by Alitalia. Is it a mistake or somehow they've ended up with some? I don't see this aircraft type in their fleet either.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:50 pm
by Kent350787
No. I expect this is operated for rather than operated by Alitalia. Delta has 9 in service with another ready to come back.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:53 pm
by fpetrutiu
Kent350787 wrote:
No. I expect this is operated for rather than operated by Alitalia. Delta has 9 in service with another ready to come back.


It clearly says "Operated by Alitalia". See below:

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Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:53 am
by Kent350787
Fair enough - but I can find no reference to Alitalia A339 orders, unless they've picked up a short term lease?

There is no clarity at all yet around the ITA fleet moving forward, with the rescue deal only getting regulatory approval in the last couple of weeks.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:08 am
by fpetrutiu
Kent350787 wrote:
Fair enough - but I can find no reference to Alitalia A339 orders, unless they've picked up a short term lease?

There is no clarity at all yet around the ITA fleet moving forward, with the rescue deal only getting regulatory approval in the last couple of weeks.


I was thinking more in line of an undisclosed customer order. A short-term lease sounds a bit unreasonable as it would be a new type for them. Unless it is a wet lease, but I don't know of any airline that would wet lease an A330-900neo.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:29 am
by Kent350787
fpetrutiu wrote:
Kent350787 wrote:
Fair enough - but I can find no reference to Alitalia A339 orders, unless they've picked up a short term lease?

There is no clarity at all yet around the ITA fleet moving forward, with the rescue deal only getting regulatory approval in the last couple of weeks.


I was thinking more in line of an undisclosed customer order. A short-term lease sounds a bit unreasonable as it would be a new type for them. Unless it is a wet lease, but I don't know of any airline that would wet lease an A330-900neo.


Which is also why I don't think the A339 is likely with about to restructure and lose half its staff Alitalia.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:15 am
by hoons90
Could be a glitch.
In the past, some Alitalia flights would show as being operated by the 764 when they had none.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:10 am
by Insertnamehere
More than likely it’s just Delta either accidentally labelling a flight as operated by Alitalia or it’s a miscommunication where someone put in the wrong IATA codes.

I was on the r/delta subreddit and they found a situation where delta was showed a flight operated by a C-212 Aviocar, which delta doesn’t fly, but that aircraft’s IATA code is CS2, most likely someone coded the operating aircraft as CS2 when they meant either a CS1 or CS3.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:14 am
by VSMUT
Is HiFly subbing for Alitalia at the moment?

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:05 pm
by fpetrutiu
VSMUT wrote:
Is HiFly subbing for Alitalia at the moment?


That could be. Economy is in 2-4-2 config and HiFly has some A330-900neos in that config.

Re: Did Alitalia order A330-900neo's?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:10 pm
by johns624
I just checked the DL website for that date. It shows it as an Alitalia flight but just says "A330". I take that to mean that it'll be on an A332.