Where did they go after retirement ?

Looks like they are all stored up at Roswell, those A332s are so young. But I don't see an airline taking A332s, could for sure see the A333s being freighters if the engines aren't an issue.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/American-Airlines

ikolkyo wrote:

Looks like they are all stored up at Roswell, those A332s are so young. But I don't see an airline taking A332s, could for sure see the A333s being freighters if the engines aren't an issue.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/American-Airlines

You have to drill deep into Planespotters's information: it shows all A330s as delivered between December 2013 and May 2014; but, the A330-300s were delivered between March 2000 and March 2001 while the A330-200s were delivered between June 2009 and May 2014. The oldest A330-200s are 12 years old; not that old, but not spring chicken either.

It seems there is still a market for the A330-200: they delivered about 100 frames since US Airways got its last one (including 1 in 2021); that's about 15% of the total A330-200 production. There is still 16 in the backlog.

WayexTDI wrote:

ikolkyo wrote:

Looks like they are all stored up at Roswell, those A332s are so young. But I don't see an airline taking A332s, could for sure see the A333s being freighters if the engines aren't an issue.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/American-Airlines

You have to drill deep into Planespotters's information: it shows all A330s as delivered between December 2013 and May 2014; but, the A330-300s were delivered between March 2000 and March 2001 while the A330-200s were delivered between June 2009 and May 2014. The oldest A330-200s are 12 years old; not that old, but not spring chicken either.

It seems there is still a market for the A330-200: they delivered about 100 frames since US Airways got its last one (including 1 in 2021); that's about 15% of the total A330-200 production. There is still 16 in the backlog.

I'm aware of the age of the aircraft, I specifically mentioned the A332s as being younger aircraft. The youngest frame is only 7 years old and remember that they all have spent over a year in storage. Plenty of life in those aircraft.

The 9 A330-300s were built and delivered in 2000-2001 and the 15 A330-200s were delivered from 2009 to 2014, all brand new to US Airways. The A333's were planned to be exited from the AA fleet before COVID19, alongside the E190s. Pre-Covid, the A333s were then due to remain in the fleet a bit longer, but ultimately retired. The 15 A332s received the premium economy cabin and were not planned for retirement until COVID.

Believe all are parked in the desert.

ikolkyo wrote:

I'm aware of the age of the aircraft, I specifically mentioned the A332s as being younger aircraft. The youngest frame is only 7 years old and remember that they all have spent over a year in storage. Plenty of life in those aircraft.

There's mechanical life, and there's economic life. That they continue to sit in the desert suggests there isn't a terribly wide, robust market for used 332s. There was nothing wrong with DL's 77Ls, either, yet they sit.

MIflyer12 wrote:

ikolkyo wrote:

I'm aware of the age of the aircraft, I specifically mentioned the A332s as being younger aircraft. The youngest frame is only 7 years old and remember that they all have spent over a year in storage. Plenty of life in those aircraft.

There's mechanical life, and there's economic life. That they continue to sit in the desert suggests there isn't a terribly wide, robust market for used 332s. There was nothing wrong with DL's 77Ls, either, yet they sit.

I don't disagree, as I said in my original comment I don't see any A332s finding homes. Airlines are also still recovering so time will tell, the A333s have a chance as freighters.

MIflyer12 wrote:

ikolkyo wrote:

I'm aware of the age of the aircraft, I specifically mentioned the A332s as being younger aircraft. The youngest frame is only 7 years old and remember that they all have spent over a year in storage. Plenty of life in those aircraft.

There's mechanical life, and there's economic life. That they continue to sit in the desert suggests there isn't a terribly wide, robust market for used 332s. There was nothing wrong with DL's 77Ls, either, yet they sit.

Demand for used jets, is, at the moment, negligible and there is a glut.

ikolkyo wrote:

MIflyer12 wrote:

ikolkyo wrote:

I'm aware of the age of the aircraft, I specifically mentioned the A332s as being younger aircraft. The youngest frame is only 7 years old and remember that they all have spent over a year in storage. Plenty of life in those aircraft.

There's mechanical life, and there's economic life. That they continue to sit in the desert suggests there isn't a terribly wide, robust market for used 332s. There was nothing wrong with DL's 77Ls, either, yet they sit.

I don't disagree, as I said in my original comment I don't see any A332s finding homes. Airlines are also still recovering so time will tell, the A333s have a chance as freighters.

As I said in my original comment, there are still A330-200s being delivered new from Airbus; in fact, 15% of all produced A330-200s so far (about 100 out of 662) were delivered after US Airways received its last one. 6 of them (roughly half of AA's A330-200 Fleet) were delivered in 2020/2021. There is still obviously a (maybe small) market; and those young frames have chances to find new homes.