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Wednesdayite wrote:Don't want to start a political fight, but if you consider the phrasing of the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 under which Gibraltar was ceded by Spain to Britain, the complete airport is actually in spanish territory.The eastern end of Gibraltar’s runway pretty much touches the border with Spain.
paullam wrote:LFSB - Basle-Mulhouse comes to mind. It’s located at the border between France, Switzerland and Germany and touches the territory of at least France and Switzerland and maybe even Germany.
a320fan wrote:Gold Coast airport in Australia has the state border between QLD and NSW run diagonally right across the middle of the runway. About a third of the apron and one small corner of hbu terminal building are in NSW, but most the terminal and the entire landside complex and airport access is in QLD.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:I operated a Global in/out of OOL and there’s also the funky time zones between the two states, IIRC.
Q wrote:I found it. It's not Queensland and New South Wales separate time zones. It's the same time zones. See map.
https://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz020.php
https://www.worldtimezone.com/time-australia12.php
Q
GalaxyFlyer wrote:Q wrote:I found it. It's not Queensland and New South Wales separate time zones. It's the same time zones. See map.
https://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz020.php
https://www.worldtimezone.com/time-australia12.php
Q
Yes, but Queensland doesn’t use daylight savings time in summer, so there’s an hour time change a few miles away. We drove up to the GC Marriott, checked in and couldn’t believe the time change. The trip still a bit foggy after all the time change. SQ, NYC-SIN, day off, SIN-PER, short crew rest, PER-WTB-OOL. I had to go look it up, too.
DarkSnowyNight wrote:paullam wrote:LFSB - Basle-Mulhouse comes to mind. It’s located at the border between France, Switzerland and Germany and touches the territory of at least France and Switzerland and maybe even Germany.
I think this one is entirely w/in France.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/EuroA ... d7.5258988
eurotrader85 wrote:But has a separate Swiss section built into the airport for those that cannot/do not want to, enter the French state, for customs, legal, or whatever reason.
MartijnNL wrote:eurotrader85 wrote:But has a separate Swiss section built into the airport for those that cannot/do not want to, enter the French state, for customs, legal, or whatever reason.
Don't all Basle passengers end up in the same arrival hall?
And doesn't everyone enter France when leaving the building?
MartijnNL wrote:Don't all Basle passengers end up in the same arrival hall?
And doesn't everyone enter France when leaving the building?
Maurice27 wrote:Wednesdayite wrote:Don't want to start a political fight, but if you consider the phrasing of the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 under which Gibraltar was ceded by Spain to Britain, the complete airport is actually in spanish territory.The eastern end of Gibraltar’s runway pretty much touches the border with Spain.
This treaty stated “the town, castle and fortifications were to be held and enjoyed for ever without any exception or impediment whatsoever" by Britain.
Article X, Treaty of Utrecht wrote:The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever.
ChrisKen wrote:Maurice27 wrote:Wednesdayite wrote:Don't want to start a political fight, but if you consider the phrasing of the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 under which Gibraltar was ceded by Spain to Britain, the complete airport is actually in spanish territory.The eastern end of Gibraltar’s runway pretty much touches the border with Spain.
This treaty stated “the town, castle and fortifications were to be held and enjoyed for ever without any exception or impediment whatsoever" by Britain.
Utrecht was superceded and confirmed by at least two other treaties, namely Seville 1729 and Paris 1783. You also missed out several of your super important words of your super important phrasing of the Utrecht treaty.Article X, Treaty of Utrecht wrote:The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever.
Ergo, Gibraltar Airport is indeed within Gibraltarian territory, not Spanish.
Maurice27 wrote:ChrisKen wrote:Maurice27 wrote:Don't want to start a political fight, but if you consider the phrasing of the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 under which Gibraltar was ceded by Spain to Britain, the complete airport is actually in spanish territory.
This treaty stated “the town, castle and fortifications were to be held and enjoyed for ever without any exception or impediment whatsoever" by Britain.
Utrecht was superceded and confirmed by at least two other treaties, namely Seville 1729 and Paris 1783. You also missed out several of your super important words of your super important phrasing of the Utrecht treaty.Article X, Treaty of Utrecht wrote:The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever.
Ergo, Gibraltar Airport is indeed within Gibraltarian territory, not Spanish.
Again, no mention to the isthmus...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputed_ ... prov=sfla1
I just wanted to answer to the OP. In the view of some people, Gibraltar's airport MIGHT be outside Gibraltar's territory.
As this is not a political forum, I will not continue with this conversation. Sorry.
Maurice