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kiowa
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former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:05 pm

Wow! After the 737 MAX crashes, the Boeing 737 test pilot went to Southwest where he recently took a buy out. Now they are looking at federal charges against him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... pilot.html
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... -airlines/

Is he to blame or just a fall guy?
 
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Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:30 pm

A couple thoughts:

1) A good defense attorney should be able to sow tons of reasonable doubt that this guy *knowingly* misled the FAA when there is an entire web of engineers and data at play. It’s not like this man singlehandedly duped the FAA and a jury might react negatively to the perception that one person is being thrown under the bus, and…

2) Pursuant to (1) above, it’s sort of a travesty that one test pilot would be the only individual/entity charged when Boeing’s actions as a whole could be construed as criminal.
 
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Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:23 pm

kiowa wrote:
Wow! After the 737 MAX crashes, the Boeing 737 test pilot went to Southwest where he recently took a buy out. Now they are looking at federal charges against him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... pilot.html
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... -airlines/

Is he to blame or just a fall guy?


Fall guy. He was acting under the direction of Boeing leadership to minimize changes. Leadership was pressuring him to hide changes if he wanted to keep his job.
 
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Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:34 am

Prosecutors may pressure him to implicate higher ups in return for leniency. That’s a standard operating procedure for prosecutors.
 
kiowa
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Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:23 pm

I suspect they will but they might just ignore it for less publicity. This guy could be toxic for both Boeing and Southwest.
 
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Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:39 pm

He wasn’t a “test pilot”. That’s commonly misstated in the media.

Boeing has several different pilot organizations. Engineering Pilots are the test pilots. Mark was a Technical Pilot, who are responsible for managing the procedures and training. At the time the Tech Pilots rarely actually flew Boeing airplanes.
 
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Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:52 am

kiowa wrote:
I suspect they will but they might just ignore it for less publicity. This guy could be toxic for both Boeing and Southwest.

Buy you stated that he is gone from SWA, so why would he be toxic?

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