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Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:37 pm

Due to its range, could we see the A220 being used for transatlantic operations in the near future? Maybe it could be used for "long and (very) thin" routes.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:49 pm

I could see it flying London City to New York JFK, the route on which BA previously flew an A318. The A318 wasn't the best aircraft for the job but at the time it was the only one capable of flying it although just barely. The A220 could do it easier.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:14 pm

Not enough runway at LCY perhaps..?0
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:25 pm

A A220-100 all business could work out of LCY. AC could operate them out of the Maritimes to the UK. I’d guess they could work from St.Pierre and Miquelon or to the Azores. But, not much premium traffic.

The BA A318 stopped at Shannon, where the A220 most days could make it non-stop.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:48 pm

The A220LR is going to be launched. Then it becomes more likely. Maybe there gonna be also an A220XLR.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:06 pm

Bombardier flew a demo flight with a A221 configured in the equivalent of 40 business class seats and baggage and it made it easily non-stop from LCY to JFK.

Breeze has also hinted at flying A220s transatlantic.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:36 pm

I agree with the commenter regarding the maritimes to Europe.

AC uses/used small Airbus equipment to fly St John's to LHR. I personally only saw it at Heathrow once but there was an enjoyable oddness to seeing a small Airbus parking up by its big brother 330/777/767 etc.

Maybe they can use the 220 on such a route, or Halifax, I wonder If a 220LR could even do a maritimes-FRA route, connecting into LH feed.

Interesting times
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:54 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
Bombardier flew a demo flight with a A221 configured in the equivalent of 40 business class seats and baggage and it made it easily non-stop from LCY to JFK.

Breeze has also hinted at flying A220s transatlantic.

The A221 is the only model that fits in the gates and I see flying TATL from LCY, it is a question of when.

Otherwise, an A223 with the range is needed for decent economics. There is a push for, but when?

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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 pm

In 15-20 years from now, WN will likely have newer-generation narrowbody aircraft (similar in size to the 737-700/800, 737 MAX 7/8, or A319/A320) that will have enough range for routes such as HNL-DAL/HOU/MCI/STL, STL-DUB, and BWI-AMS/BCN/DUB/FRA/LGW/CDG.

The 737 has gotten more fuel efficient with each generation, with the 737-500 being more fuel efficient than the 737-200, the 737-700/800 being more fuel efficient than the 737-300/400, and the 737 MAX 7/8 being more fuel efficient than the 737-700/800.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:42 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
Bombardier flew a demo flight with a A221 configured in the equivalent of 40 business class seats and baggage and it made it easily non-stop from LCY to JFK.


Did they now… didn’t know that , learn something everyday
Can’t see the business case coming back for a while tho’
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:01 am

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TUGMASTER wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Bombardier flew a demo flight with a A221 configured in the equivalent of 40 business class seats and baggage and it made it easily non-stop from LCY to JFK.


Did they now… didn’t know that , learn something everyday
Can’t see the business case coming back for a while tho’


https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.ainonli ... york%3famp
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:21 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
A A220-100 all business could work out of LCY. AC could operate them out of the Maritimes to the UK. I’d guess they could work from St.Pierre and Miquelon or to the Azores. But, not much premium traffic.


Given that AC actually has long intended to upgauge YYT-LHR to a 7M8, and YHZ-LHR to a widebody, I don't really see a reason for the A220 to run from the Maritimes - unless AC planned to fly from even smaller places.
 
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Re: Could the A220 be used to fly Transatlantic?

Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:25 am

TUGMASTER wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Bombardier flew a demo flight with a A221 configured in the equivalent of 40 business class seats and baggage and it made it easily non-stop from LCY to JFK.


Did they now… didn’t know that , learn something everyday
Can’t see the business case coming back for a while tho’


At least in to me, the business case is not there through another year at least. In Delta's Q3 earnings they reported that only 40% of business travel is back and with London losing finance jobs due to brexit demand will be weaker on the European side. Simmilarly, NYC is seeing similar loss of talent as the bulge bracket build up elsewhere with lower CoL I don't think we will see any sort of return to LCY-JFK for another couple years.

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