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IFlyVeryLittle wrote:After taking a very routine domestic trip last weekend in which absolutely nothing out of the ordinary happened (except a bruised knee when the 300-pound clod in front of me flopped into his seat like a some kind of aggrieved soccer player trying to draw a free kick), I wondered about a few constants in the airline/airport world. 1) Are we forever stuck with this stupid practice of unbuckling and standing in the aisle the literal millisecond the airplane comes to a stop? Followed by the inevitable morons from the back rows trying to push toward the front at an airport where connections are very unlikely? 2) Are we forever stuck with people standing around the gate trying to perfectly time the Group 4 boarding call, gumming up the rest of the gate area and corridor for everyone else? 3) I’ve never been treated anything buy professionally by TSA and airline employees. Could kindness and a reasonably positive outlook with them be the secret? Your thoughts?
davidjohnson6 wrote:It seems some people don't quite understand what an airplane operated by a commercial airline really is.
It is a BUS WITH WINGS
You can paint it in fancy colours. You can put beds in it. You can serve the passengers nice food or sell them nasty food. Sometimes people pay a lot of money for their bus ticket. Sometimes the journey takes many many hours. A lot of people get very emotionally involved about this type of bus.
But it is still a BUS WITH WINGS
N1120A wrote:The security theater process in the US needs to be significantly streamlined.
N1120A wrote:The security theater process in the US needs to be significantly streamlined.
N1120A wrote:The security theater process in the US needs to be significantly streamlined.
socaljoeyb wrote:Volaris is very strict with deboarding by rows and I love it. So much more civilized.
pilotkev1 wrote:Many frequent travelers I know have occasional back pain issues that are exacerbated by long stretches of sitting. Unbuckling and standing in the aisle as quickly as possible may seem annoying to some, but is sometimes instant relief for some.
pilotkev1 wrote:Many frequent travelers I know have occasional back pain issues that are exacerbated by long stretches of sitting. Unbuckling and standing in the aisle as quickly as possible may seem annoying to some, but is sometimes instant relief for some.
N1120A wrote:The security theater process in the US needs to be significantly streamlined.
pbody wrote:pilotkev1 wrote:Many frequent travelers I know have occasional back pain issues that are exacerbated by long stretches of sitting. Unbuckling and standing in the aisle as quickly as possible may seem annoying to some, but is sometimes instant relief for some.
Sounds like your friends need to see a chiropractor
ncflyer wrote:Airlines should charge a hefty fee for overhead carry ons and allow checking for free. The current incentive is entirely backwards for a smooth boarding process.
DenverTed wrote:Or go really extreme and take out overhead bin space completely and only allow carry underneath the seat infront of youncflyer wrote:Airlines should charge a hefty fee for overhead carry ons and allow checking for free. The current incentive is entirely backwards for a smooth boarding process.
I agree with that. Also, I think there should be dividers in the overhead with the seat number, limiting the size to 9x14x22. And, each seat is allocated a given space for bag, coat, or hat. Larger bags could be checked or pay $30 to put in large bag rack somewhere in cabin.
gmcc wrote:DenverTed wrote:Or go really extreme and take out overhead bin space completely and only allow carry underneath the seat infront of youncflyer wrote:Airlines should charge a hefty fee for overhead carry ons and allow checking for free. The current incentive is entirely backwards for a smooth boarding process.
I agree with that. Also, I think there should be dividers in the overhead with the seat number, limiting the size to 9x14x22. And, each seat is allocated a given space for bag, coat, or hat. Larger bags could be checked or pay $30 to put in large bag rack somewhere in cabin.
jreeves96 wrote:Airports (and airplanes) make people stupid. Plain and simple.
fabian9 wrote:- Keeping queues flowing
- Security check etiquette
- Knowing the process, which docs when
totesen wrote:socaljoeyb wrote:Volaris is very strict with deboarding by rows and I love it. So much more civilized.
All mexican airlines do it since Covid. Its one of the only good things that covid left. Deplaning is done by rows. called by FA's. I have flown turkish airlines and United quite a bit this year. Over 6 flights each. as well as the mexican airlines (Since im based out of MEX) and i definitely love the way AMX, Viva and Volaris deplane. Its more civilized and you feel safer and less stressed.
maps4ltd wrote:totesen wrote:socaljoeyb wrote:Volaris is very strict with deboarding by rows and I love it. So much more civilized.
All mexican airlines do it since Covid. Its one of the only good things that covid left. Deplaning is done by rows. called by FA's. I have flown turkish airlines and United quite a bit this year. Over 6 flights each. as well as the mexican airlines (Since im based out of MEX) and i definitely love the way AMX, Viva and Volaris deplane. Its more civilized and you feel safer and less stressed.
What about people with tight connections? I can't tell you how many times I've heard, on delayed flights, "local pax please remain seated so that pax with tight connections may exit the aircraft."
USAAUA wrote:maps4ltd wrote:totesen wrote:
All mexican airlines do it since Covid. Its one of the only good things that covid left. Deplaning is done by rows. called by FA's. I have flown turkish airlines and United quite a bit this year. Over 6 flights each. as well as the mexican airlines (Since im based out of MEX) and i definitely love the way AMX, Viva and Volaris deplane. Its more civilized and you feel safer and less stressed.
What about people with tight connections? I can't tell you how many times I've heard, on delayed flights, "local pax please remain seated so that pax with tight connections may exit the aircraft."
Wonder if there is something that can be done with in-seat IFE. Maybe a red or green screen with a message? Local passenger or long connection, you get red. Tight connection, green screen.
jreeves96 wrote:Airports (and airplanes) make people stupid. Plain and simple.
pbody wrote:pilotkev1 wrote:Many frequent travelers I know have occasional back pain issues that are exacerbated by long stretches of sitting. Unbuckling and standing in the aisle as quickly as possible may seem annoying to some, but is sometimes instant relief for some.
Sounds like your friends need to see a chiropractor
hz747300 wrote:I haven't flown in the US in 2+ years because of COVID, but will again this summer finally (yay?). When I was booking tickets for the fam between NY and AZ, I found fares that had no checked baggage and no carryon baggage. So you get one small personal item under your seat? No way people adhere to this, right? Unless you're maintaining two households with sufficient wardrobes in each, how does this work? I'll give it this, the fare was cheap.
IFlyVeryLittle wrote:... 1) Are we forever stuck with this stupid practice of unbuckling and standing in the aisle the literal millisecond the airplane comes to a stop? Followed by the inevitable morons from the back rows trying to push toward the front at an airport where connections are very unlikely?...
totesen wrote:socaljoeyb wrote:Volaris is very strict with deboarding by rows and I love it. So much more civilized.
All mexican airlines do it since Covid. Its one of the only good things that covid left. Deplaning is done by rows. called by FA's. I have flown turkish airlines and United quite a bit this year. Over 6 flights each. as well as the mexican airlines (Since im based out of MEX) and i definitely love the way AMX, Viva and Volaris deplane. Its more civilized and you feel safer and less stressed.
ncflyer wrote:Airlines should charge a hefty fee for overhead carry ons and allow checking for free. The current incentive is entirely backwards for a smooth boarding process.
FlyingHonu001 wrote:So I think speeding up deboarding can help a little, like utilising over-the-wing jetways and opening up the back doors.
Noshow wrote:I think there should be a navigation system on the cell phone guiding people through airports and to their gates including estimated time enroute. Maybe this would help to avoid people being stressed?
teachpdx wrote:But I generally love it. I can do 2+ weeks of travel before I need anything bigger than a backpack under my seat. Some people travel light, and others don’t. It’s mind-boggling to see how much luggage so many people drag around with them.
WayexTDI wrote:N1120A wrote:The security theater process in the US needs to be significantly streamlined.
According to you, what is really that theatrical about TSA check points?
BEG2IAH wrote:jreeves96 wrote:Airports (and airplanes) make people stupid. Plain and simple.
My general experience as a frequent traveler and a former airline employee is that people check their brains with their luggage. I don't know if it's the nervousness before travel or the overwhelming noise and crowd, but people tend to do very stupid things at the airport and while flying. And the gems are those who are absolutely unaware of their surroundings.
IFlyVeryLittle wrote:After taking a very routine domestic trip last weekend in which absolutely nothing out of the ordinary happened (except a bruised knee when the 300-pound clod in front of me flopped into his seat like a some kind of aggrieved soccer player trying to draw a free kick), I wondered about a few constants in the airline/airport world. 1) Are we forever stuck with this stupid practice of unbuckling and standing in the aisle the literal millisecond the airplane comes to a stop? Followed by the inevitable morons from the back rows trying to push toward the front at an airport where connections are very unlikely? 2) Are we forever stuck with people standing around the gate trying to perfectly time the Group 4 boarding call, gumming up the rest of the gate area and corridor for everyone else? 3) I’ve never been treated anything buy professionally by TSA and airline employees. Could kindness and a reasonably positive outlook with them be the secret? Your thoughts?
Cory6188 wrote:N1120A wrote:The security theater process in the US needs to be significantly streamlined.
Is it really that different in other countries? I have to say, I've had as many headaches with going through security at LHR or AMS, for example, as at your average US airport (with no offense intended to our UK or NL members, more just saying that they largely seem similar).