With all restrictions lifted will they return to Hong Kong?
I know Hong Kong looks different now
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- JohanTally
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Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
AA is looking at launching SIN because they see HKG in decline.
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Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
UAUA wrote:With all restrictions lifted will they return to Hong Kong?
I know Hong Kong looks different now
DL dropped SEA-HKG when things were good, both with HKG strong and fuel prices not too bad, about $1.85/gallon. I wouldn't expect a return in this environment.
Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
Unlikely from VS when they now got ICN and TPE for connections from their SkyTeam partners, plus VS using their own aircraft into ICN and (since the 'defacto' VA separation when both took on different owners post-covid) VS can also return via Codeshare to Australia through the SkyTeam hubs.
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Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
Hong Kong isn't the flourishing independent market it once was.
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Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
If any of these airlines were to return to HKG, it would be AA. DFW-HKG was a very strong performer pre-pandemic.
That being said, such a return is quite doubtful. The post-pandemic reality, combined with the political situation in Hong Kong and China, combined with limited aircraft that are better-suited for other longer-haul routes (i.e., Europe, possibly SIN, etc).
That being said, such a return is quite doubtful. The post-pandemic reality, combined with the political situation in Hong Kong and China, combined with limited aircraft that are better-suited for other longer-haul routes (i.e., Europe, possibly SIN, etc).
Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
I'd love to see all of those airlines return to HKG. AA has the edge with connection feed, but I think AAs next foray on DFW-HKG will be in the form of a codeshare on a CX A350.
Singapore is interesting. LAX and SEA would be a lot of stuff competition. DFW is too far, so that leaves JFK, ORD, and PHX (from a geographic standpoint) is likely candidates. That's right. You heard it. PHX-SIN on AA let's do it!
But it's sad to see HKG lose relevance as Red China tightens their grip on it especially post COVID. I'm happy to visit when I did right before the world shut down, it was an amazing and vibrant city, but I'd still love to visit again.
Singapore is interesting. LAX and SEA would be a lot of stuff competition. DFW is too far, so that leaves JFK, ORD, and PHX (from a geographic standpoint) is likely candidates. That's right. You heard it. PHX-SIN on AA let's do it!
But it's sad to see HKG lose relevance as Red China tightens their grip on it especially post COVID. I'm happy to visit when I did right before the world shut down, it was an amazing and vibrant city, but I'd still love to visit again.
Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
AA almost certainly will return sooner rather than later. Enough premium flyers to justify it who won't stick with AA connections vs UA nonstop as air travel slowly returns to pre-COVID levels.
DL will likely never return. Their Pacific operation is in shambles. They are more likely to exit completely than rebuild.
DL will likely never return. Their Pacific operation is in shambles. They are more likely to exit completely than rebuild.
Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
TWA772LR wrote:I'd love to see all of those airlines return to HKG. AA has the edge with connection feed, but I think AAs next foray on DFW-HKG will be in the form of a codeshare on a CX A350.
Uhm... CX never flew to DFW though.
Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
acavpics wrote:TWA772LR wrote:I'd love to see all of those airlines return to HKG. AA has the edge with connection feed, but I think AAs next foray on DFW-HKG will be in the form of a codeshare on a CX A350.
Uhm... CX never flew to DFW though.
Didn't say they did. I said if AA is gonna return to that route, CX will be operating it only with an AA codeshare.
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JohanTally wrote:Hong Kong isn't the flourishing independent market it once was.
But then, carriers like UA do plan on resuming service to the mainland, such as PVG and PEK. If that is the case, I don't see why they can't do HKG.
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acavpics wrote:JohanTally wrote:Hong Kong isn't the flourishing independent market it once was.
But then, carriers like UA do plan on resuming service to the mainland, such as PVG and PEK. If that is the case, I don't see why they can't do HKG.
Hong Kong's population has declined 3 years in a row largely due to losing it's autonomy from the Mainland. They are even offering half a million plane tickets to lure people in. Hopefully it will recover but Hong Kong was in decline even before the pandemic with airlines even suspending service during the unrest. I also shared an article AA network thread where they are looking at SIN because it's economy is growing unlike HK.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2 ... city-crown
Re: Will DL/AA/VS return to HKG?
JohanTally wrote:acavpics wrote:JohanTally wrote:Hong Kong isn't the flourishing independent market it once was.
But then, carriers like UA do plan on resuming service to the mainland, such as PVG and PEK. If that is the case, I don't see why they can't do HKG.
Hong Kong's population has declined 3 years in a row largely due to losing it's autonomy from the Mainland. They are even offering half a million plane tickets to lure people in. Hopefully it will recover but Hong Kong was in decline even before the pandemic with airlines even suspending service during the unrest. I also shared an article AA network thread where they are looking at SIN because it's economy is growing unlike HK.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2 ... city-crown
Premium traffic to China and HK are way down. It will be unprofitable for AA, DL, and VS if the pointy end of the plane isn't full. I would not be surprised if the existing China flights are all loss making.
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