Hello,
Does any body knew the Varis Boeing 747-400 ?
What the main deck configuration ?
What was the upper deck configuration ?
Thank you for a response
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Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
Hi Pottok
You can look to the following link:
https://www.varig-airlines.com/en/b747400.htm
Regards!
Andrés
You can look to the following link:
https://www.varig-airlines.com/en/b747400.htm
Regards!
Andrés
Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
From memory they adopted a config similar to the KLM config with the galley down one side of cabin 2.
Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
PB26 wrote:The RG's 747-400 was a big mistake.
Why they flew 747-200 & 747-300 ? It probably had more to do with flying all the way to Japan. Varig had no Business flying 24 hours across the Americas and the Pacific to Tokyo and Nagoya. If they had flown the planes to JFK, LHR and FRA they would have been fine.
Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
Varig also used its 747 fleet for the notorious GIG-GRU-JNB-BKK-HKG back in the days.
FCO has seen RG's 747 for a while also.
FCO has seen RG's 747 for a while also.
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I find it ironic, that they retired 744 9 years before the 732...
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EAGaviation wrote:I find it ironic, that they retired 744 9 years before the 732...
To be fair the 744 only lasted 3 years with RG, the 732 decades.
Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
jfk777 wrote:PB26 wrote:The RG's 747-400 was a big mistake.
Why they flew 747-200 & 747-300 ? It probably had more to do with flying all the way to Japan. Varig had no Business flying 24 hours across the Americas and the Pacific to Tokyo and Nagoya. If they had flown the planes to JFK, LHR and FRA they would have been fine.
In early Seventies, VARIG made studies to purchase its first widebody jet. The competitors were Lockheed L1011, Boeing 747 and McDonnell Douglas DC-10.
The Tristar was the first to be risked, they didn't have range to fly Rio-Europe or Rio-New York non-stop. The 747 was wonderful, but it was very big to a company which had almost 3 daily flights to Europe, so only one 747 could fit almost the flights. So the best was DC-10, with a good range and with capacity below the 747 and above de 707. It was best decision in the time and the merits were Erik de Carvalho, VARIG's CEO after Ruben Berta's death.
When the Carvalho got ill in the 1979, Hélio Smidt became the president of the company in 1980 and the Boeing made a proposal to sell 3 747-200 Combi originally made for Iraq Airways but were resting in Boeing plant waiting a new hone, since US made embargo to Iraq.
In the 1981 VARIG got 747-200 and put in the daily GIG-JFK and the 3x week GIG-CDG-FRA, two of the most prestigious and rentable routes from its network. In response to the the traffic between Japan and Brazil, they got 2 747-300 Combi in 1985 and 3 747-400 full pax three years latter. But, when the Brazilian economy declared default of its foreign debts, All the contracts with Dollar was disappeared and the board management prefer to finance the purchase by japanese Yen. But the japanese currency was became stronger after Plaza Accoard and the debt grew so rapid that, even 2001, the debts from purchaising 747-300 was in the sheet.
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Believe the 200’s were frames not taken up by Lybian Arab Airlines, B747-2L5’s rather than Iraqi Airways. They took their 747 allocation.
Remember flying The Varig 743M’s PP-VOA/B/C LHR - CPH, but always in full pax configuration, never combi mode.
Remember flying The Varig 743M’s PP-VOA/B/C LHR - CPH, but always in full pax configuration, never combi mode.
Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
Hello,
I'm searching the following information
Varig Boeing 747-400 (seat map) with the registration
How many seats (Class F, C and Y) main deck ?
How many seats (C or Y) upper deck)
Thank you
I'm searching the following information
Varig Boeing 747-400 (seat map) with the registration
How many seats (Class F, C and Y) main deck ?
How many seats (C or Y) upper deck)
Thank you
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Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
jfk777 wrote:PB26 wrote:The RG's 747-400 was a big mistake.
Why they flew 747-200 & 747-300 ? It probably had more to do with flying all the way to Japan. Varig had no Business flying 24 hours across the Americas and the Pacific to Tokyo and Nagoya. If they had flown the planes to JFK, LHR and FRA they would have been fine.
Please remember airfares were much higher back then and there is a large Japanese diaspora in Brazil- the route made perfect sense.
Re: Varig Boeing 747-400
TUGMASTER wrote:Believe the 200’s were frames not taken up by Lybian Arab Airlines, B747-2L5’s rather than Iraqi Airways. They took their 747 allocation.
Remember flying The Varig 743M’s PP-VOA/B/C LHR - CPH, but always in full pax configuration, never combi mode.
Sorry, you are right. The VARIG's B742 was from Lybian Arab Airlines.
The Combi was PP-VNH and VNI, delivered in 1985. PP-VO* was full pax and delivered in 1988.
Pottok wrote:Hello,
I'm searching the following information
Varig Boeing 747-400 (seat map) with the registration
How many seats (Class F, C and Y) main deck ?
How many seats (C or Y) upper deck)
Thank you
Seat map by registration is very hard to find. VARIG published with 438 seats, with the C in the upper deck:
But the video below says 441 seats:
https://youtu.be/cbNAqesPQsk
eta unknown wrote:jfk777 wrote:PB26 wrote:The RG's 747-400 was a big mistake.
Why they flew 747-200 & 747-300 ? It probably had more to do with flying all the way to Japan. Varig had no Business flying 24 hours across the Americas and the Pacific to Tokyo and Nagoya. If they had flown the planes to JFK, LHR and FRA they would have been fine.
Please remember airfares were much higher back then and there is a large Japanese diaspora in Brazil- the route made perfect sense.
The Brazil-Japan route was one of most profitable in the VARIG network, in a time where only she and JAL flew the route and RG had rights to sell LAX-Japan. In 2001 the company mortgage the sales between LAX-NRT/NGO to got money.
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